BF2S Forums My friend possibly raped...

Roc18 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

calling people white trash and rednecks is no better you know that right?

Rednecks are not a race (neither are white trash for that matter - the European equivalent would be chavs and they are not a race either). A redneck, in the modern day definition, would be a simpleton prone to bouts of irrational racism and hatred of anything 'outside' the norm (this could be anything ranging from men with long hair to people who wear fancy coats); though they may tend to often be from the South and from the countryside one does not have to be within that demographic to be one.

Calling someone a redneck is just like calling someone stupid in my opinion, it's a valid pejorative that does not count as racism.

Polish isnt a race either, and a redneck is a sterotype for white people.

What? Being Polish means you are from Poland, a country. So yes, they are a race. Redneck is a term for ignorant, bigoted white people, it's not like honkey or something.

Kmarion wrote:

jord wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Um. I didn't call bullshit? If the point of this thread is to come on to an internet gaming forum and ask cyberfriends if an irl friend is tell the truth about being raped, then this place just reached a new level of dumb.

He thought she got drugged, someone who knows a bit about drugs said he's positive the effects mentioned don't appear to be the effects of drugs, end of. I don't get what were arguing here...

First off illicit drug use isn't a Parker exclusive.. I promise. I'm arguing the point of people passing judgment on her character. Remember?

I fail to see where I passed judgement on her character... Was it when I said she probably wasn't drugged because the effects don't correspond with GHD use?

David.P wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I thought David.P was American, no?

Born here. But of polish fucking origin. I swear you would not think so highly of Polacks if you had to work with them. Most of them are fucking assholes who will argue with you over every little thing, And they are lazy cheating fuckers. You also won't believe some of the hell they put me through while i had to serve them their food.

I did work with them thank you very much and they were more intelligent, more hardworking and more polite than the majority of the Irish people in the company. Maybe you were just landed with a bunch of pricks, ever consider that?

You're culturally American and hence your attack is the attack of an outsider. There's a big difference between an actual Polish person making a racist comment about Polish people and an American Pole making the same comment. If an Irish-American made a similar comment about the Irish race within earshot of an actual Irish person he would be at risk of having his fucking head kicked in.

And besides, how can you be so fucking disrespectful of your own race? Have you no fucking pride in yourself or where you came from?

jord wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

jord wrote:

He thought she got drugged, someone who knows a bit about drugs said he's positive the effects mentioned don't appear to be the effects of drugs, end of. I don't get what were arguing here...

First off illicit drug use isn't a Parker exclusive.. I promise. I'm arguing the point of people passing judgment on her character. Remember?

I fail to see where I passed judgement on her character... Was it when I said she probably wasn't drugged because the effects don't correspond with GHD use?

Drug abuse is a reflection of character. Obviously there are certain personalities that are naturally drawn to drug use. It would require more details then a 3 am phone call to determine that. I recall white fusion thought that she might have been drugged. I don't remember him saying that she said she was drugged.

Kmarion wrote:

jord wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

First off illicit drug use isn't a Parker exclusive.. I promise. I'm arguing the point of people passing judgment on her character. Remember?

I fail to see where I passed judgement on her character... Was it when I said she probably wasn't drugged because the effects don't correspond with GHD use?

Drug abuse is a reflection of character. Obviously there are certain personalities that are naturally drawn to drug use. It would require more details then a 3 am phone call to determine that. I recall white fusion thought that she might have been drugged. I don't remember him saying that she said she was drugged.

True, I just assumed from the fact she passed out while tipsy, woke up next to a river stark naked and had to run home at 3am while she cried down the phone to me telling me if she died she wanted me to tell my friend matt she hated him.

From all of this, which isn't like her, even like a drunk her. It sounded like she was drugged, that was just a hunch I got straight away.

jord wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

jord wrote:

I fail to see where I passed judgement on her character... Was it when I said she probably wasn't drugged because the effects don't correspond with GHD use?

Drug abuse is a reflection of character. Obviously there are certain personalities that are naturally drawn to drug use. It would require more details then a 3 am phone call to determine that. I recall white fusion thought that she might have been drugged. I don't remember him saying that she said she was drugged.

And the possibility of her being drugged was severely reduced thanks to a members advice, in tern, helping Fusion.

Ok, we are officially talking about two different things..lol

Roc18 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Polish isnt a race either, and a redneck is a sterotype for white people.

Wrong on both counts.

How? Polish is a nationality/ethnic group and calling someone a redneck is a stereotype for white people, its like calling an asian a chink.

No it's not. Redneck is not a term that applies to white people, it is a term that applies to white people who are ignorant. The term originally came about as a reference to people who were not educated and had to do manual work out in the sun, so while the term applies to white people it also only applies to ignorant white people i.e. ignorance is the defining factor, not being white.

Poles are a linguistically and culturally distinct people. America is a mish mash of different races and ethnic groups, the only authentically American 'race' would be native Americans... as such being American is a nationality (and even a distinct cultural group) but not a race.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Women do stupid shit.  Going out alone drinking in some club dressed like a tramp, hmmm, nothing can go wrong with this plan.  Then some scum bag A. drugs and rapes her B. gets her hammered and takes her home, does her, she wakes up and freaks out yelling rape because she blacked out and isn't the horny tramp she was 3 hrs ago.

Not saying this is what happened to her or what she did, but guys who screw women drunk out of their mind deserve the rape conviction and women that put themselve in that position deserve to feel raped.

Stupid people, that is all this usually is.  What ever happened to the concept of knowing someone more than 2 hours before you screw them.

She didn't go alone, and her clothing is not an issue.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Women do stupid shit.  Going out alone drinking in some club dressed like a tramp, hmmm, nothing can go wrong with this plan.  Then some scum bag A. drugs and rapes her B. gets her hammered and takes her home, does her, she wakes up and freaks out yelling rape because she blacked out and isn't the horny tramp she was 3 hrs ago.

Not saying this is what happened to her or what she did, but guys who screw women drunk out of their mind deserve the rape conviction and women that put themselve in that position deserve to feel raped.

Stupid people, that is all this usually is.  What ever happened to the concept of knowing someone more than 2 hours before you screw them.

There is some truth in what you are saying... even if you are as blunt as a sledgehammer in how you are saying it.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-08-31 15:03:40)

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Women do stupid shit.  Going out alone drinking in some club dressed like a tramp, hmmm, nothing can go wrong with this plan.  Then some scum bag A. drugs and rapes her B. gets her hammered and takes her home, does her, she wakes up and freaks out yelling rape because she blacked out and isn't the horny tramp she was 3 hrs ago.

Not saying this is what happened to her or what she did, but guys who screw women drunk out of their mind deserve the rape conviction and women that put themselve in that position deserve to feel raped.

Stupid people, that is all this usually is.  What ever happened to the concept of knowing someone more than 2 hours before you screw them.

Fuck you tbh.

Can a friendly mod change the title to "My friend possibly got raped...". Saves people thinking that your friend raped someone, as I did when I first saw the thread.

Roc18 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

How? Polish is a nationality/ethnic group and calling someone a redneck is a stereotype for white people, its like calling an asian a chink.

No it's not. Redneck is not a term that applies to white people, it is a term that applies to white people who are ignorant. The term originally came about as a reference to people who were not educated and had to do manual work out in the sun, so while the term applies to white people it also only applies to ignorant white people i.e. ignorance is the defining factor, not being white.

Poles are a linguistically and culturally distinct people. America is a mish mash of different races and ethnic groups, the only authentically American 'race' would be native Americans... as such being American is a nationality (and even a distinct cultural group) but not a race.

You just agreed with me that a redneck applies to white people by saying it applies to "white ignorant people". Its a stereotype that refers to white people who are generally poor not ignorant otherwise Jeff Foxworth wouldnt be making fun himself for being a redneck. And you agreed with me by saying Poles are a linguistically and culturally distinct people which means its not a race, race has to do with appearance not cultural characteristics. Polish is an ethnicity as well as a nationality not a race.

If I said, "Roc18, Americans suck dick", would you not think that I was being racist?