you dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.Spearhead wrote:
While the Uzique vs. Marine/GS brawl is going on I'd like to throw in a question related to Iraq...
What do you think about the Valerie Plame affair? Do you find it at least a little eyebrow raising that the wife of Ambassador Wilson was outed rght after he wrote the op-ed saying that Bush was exaggerating evidence of WMD?
50?... GS, how many bases are in Iraq now? Surely, it's not 50, right?IG-Calibre wrote:
no.. the deal that you wish to maintain 50 military bases and operate within the borders of the nation without recourse from either the Iraqi government or the laws of the country would indicate to me proxy imperialism tbh..
I dont know. I havent been in years. there was a buttload when I was there but they closed down a whole bunch. I was at FOBs in the begining of the deployment that were either closed down or turned over to the iraqi government.
Well Christ... if there are 50, then I can see why some would see it as imperialism.
I could justify 50 bases in Iraq. Some of these places were no bigger than a small office building nestled in a neighborhood.Turquoise wrote:
Well Christ... if there are 50, then I can see why some would see it as imperialism.
high pressure to low pressure.God Save the Queen wrote:
you dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.Spearhead wrote:
While the Uzique vs. Marine/GS brawl is going on I'd like to throw in a question related to Iraq...
What do you think about the Valerie Plame affair? Do you find it at least a little eyebrow raising that the wife of Ambassador Wilson was outed rght after he wrote the op-ed saying that Bush was exaggerating evidence of WMD?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
See, when I think of a base, I think of these...God Save the Queen wrote:
I could justify 50 bases in Iraq. Some of these places were no bigger than a small office building nestled in a neighborhood.Turquoise wrote:
Well Christ... if there are 50, then I can see why some would see it as imperialism.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … lad-ab.htm
thats one of the bigger ones.Turquoise wrote:
See, when I think of a base, I think of these...God Save the Queen wrote:
I could justify 50 bases in Iraq. Some of these places were no bigger than a small office building nestled in a neighborhood.Turquoise wrote:
Well Christ... if there are 50, then I can see why some would see it as imperialism.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … lad-ab.htm
Well, how many big bases do we have in Iraq? Big being defined as close to the size of Balad.
Who cares about the size of the bases? They are either there or not. And, frankly, I would hate my country to be one of those soooo called Arabic countries like Kuwait and KSA.
eh?r'Eeee wrote:
I would hate my country to be one of those soooo called Arabic countries like Kuwait and KSA.
UAE should be an example for the ME.
And ME stands for?
Middle Earth
Size does matter.... and so does what you do with it.r'Eeee wrote:
Who cares about the size of the bases? They are either there or not. And, frankly, I would hate my country to be one of those soooo called Arabic countries like Kuwait and KSA.
And marine is correct... the UAE is one of the more desirable places to live in the Middle East.
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Middle Earth
Well, good for them, they can have as much McDonald's and KFC as they want.Turquoise wrote:
Size does matter.... and so does what you do with it.r'Eeee wrote:
Who cares about the size of the bases? They are either there or not. And, frankly, I would hate my country to be one of those soooo called Arabic countries like Kuwait and KSA.
And marine is correct... the UAE is one of the more desirable places to live in the Middle East.
But this:
Ouch
in the world tbh.Turquoise wrote:
the UAE is one of the more desirable places to live in the Middle East.
they have a bit more than that, but icwatudidtharr'Eeee wrote:
Well, good for them, they can have as much McDonald's and KFC as they want.
I read it the book, it is very good.
Decoding is fun.usmarine wrote:
they have a bit more than that, but icwatudidtharr'Eeee wrote:
Well, good for them, they can have as much McDonald's and KFC as they want.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I personally like to join in on threads 9 pages in just to see how far off topic it has gone. Well done sir.
With all due respect Jord i personally found your statement abhorrent.jord wrote:
At a time when everyone was doing the same as us, and we managed to do it better, making Britain what it is to day then I'm proud of that. And you're talking to me as if I'm responsible or I'm some sort of General from 100 years ago.m3thod wrote:
Bollocks. The British defined raping and pillaging on a immaginable scale, tell me what part of the British Crown Jewels has actually been dug up here in Britain? Here is the tip of the iceberg:jord wrote:
I don't know what everyone's problem is with imperialism. I'm proud we owned most of the world, we probably did a better job of governing the countries than they could themselves anyway...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qissa_Khwa … r_massacre
British imperialism is NOTHING to be proud of. If they wanted to live like cavemen, then fucking let them.
Sure imperialism was all the rage back then but that's not we are discussing and neither does it excuse its consequences. Britain today lies on the foundation of hundreds of thousands of broken backs and corpses. Imperialism does nothing for the host nation and the occupiers are parasites stripping resources so they could be returned to the 'glorious motherland'.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
I agree... but you could say the same for the expansion of Islam. You could also say the same for the expansion of the Chinese Empire many centuries ago. You could say the same for the expansion of Spanish and Portuguese influence in South America.m3thod wrote:
With all due respect Jord i personally found your statement abhorrent.jord wrote:
At a time when everyone was doing the same as us, and we managed to do it better, making Britain what it is to day then I'm proud of that. And you're talking to me as if I'm responsible or I'm some sort of General from 100 years ago.m3thod wrote:
Bollocks. The British defined raping and pillaging on a immaginable scale, tell me what part of the British Crown Jewels has actually been dug up here in Britain? Here is the tip of the iceberg:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qissa_Khwa … r_massacre
British imperialism is NOTHING to be proud of. If they wanted to live like cavemen, then fucking let them.
Sure imperialism was all the rage back then but that's not we are discussing and neither does it excuse its consequences. Britain today lies on the foundation of hundreds of thousands of broken backs and corpses. Imperialism does nothing for the host nation and the occupiers are parasites stripping resources so they could be returned to the 'glorious motherland'.
The only thing that makes Britain and America stand out is that our empire building is more recent.
Most cultures that exist today are a result of some form of imperialism. Very few indigenous cultures still exist or at least exist as a dominant force in their native country.
You forgot Xerxes.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
tyAjax_the_Great1 wrote:
I personally like to join in on threads 9 pages in just to see how far off topic it has gone. Well done sir.