blisteringsilence wrote:
ComradeWho wrote:
I2elik wrote:
Congratulations! You have been promoted to smacktard status.
Yes. it is a real map, it's obvious, it was in BF1942, so it HAD to be real, like all the other maps that came with it, whoever said Wake Island wasn't real should be hogtied in a basement in Siberia and left there.
there's no more reason for a person living in Sydney Australia to be aware of this minimal event in United States/Japanese military history any more than there's a reason for me to know about anything that the Australians did. It strikes of ethnocentricity to be offended by and demean somebody who's neither Japanese or a United States citizen who just learned of this. There's no reason for the battle of Wake to be taught outside of a US History or History of WW2 course - why would it be in standard Australian textbooks?
The battle of Wake Island was hardly a minimal event. Moreover, I'd like to take this time to point out that the Australians had as much vested in the island hopping stragedy of the US PacFleet as the Americans did. The original battle plan for the Japanese called for an eventual invasion of Australia, a fact the Aussies well knew. The blokes from down under were one of the largest contributers of troops to the pacific war effort.
And its called studying history for a reason. I'm an american, but somehow I have knowledge of the War of the Roses, Hundred Years War, Falklands war, the Sino-Japanese conflicts, and numerous other battles.
Its called an education kids. Stay in school. Don't do drugs. It'll help you get a better job, make more money, and ensure that I don't have to pay for welfare for your children.
it was fucking minimal, it was an outpost manned by unqualified marines and officers using antiquated weapons. it served little strategic purpose. you're getting it confused with midway. it's only significance is it was the first land battle that the
united states was involved in in the pacific. - underlining how unimportant it really would be to any other country since why would they note the first land battle we were involved in? are you so stupid as to think that that's common knowledge outside of the US? can you name the first land battle turkey was involved in (
and don't go google that either)?
Yeah, the australians had a lot vested in island hopping - good job pointing that out! but it still has
nothing to do with the battle of wake island in which the japanese overran a patch of dirt that was about a mile square with a couple of planes. at this point in the war MacArthur and Nimitz hadn't even opened up the island hopping debate since we were on the defensive. just because it's an
island doesn't mean it has anything to do with
island hopping or the surival of australia. jesus you fool - if you're going to be a snob about history atleast have a decent grasp of it.
By the way - in the US we're overly taught about battles and politicans and things of that nature. Maybe you study history in depth (but i doubt from your post) but for every person that knows about the battle of wake in this country there are 10 or 20 or 100 that couldn't name four abolishonist leaders, four suffragette leaders, four labor leaders, or four civil rights leaders (you know that kind of shit is pretty important to). this kind of stupid debate just underscores how arrogant and truly stupid most americans are. again, there's no reason for an australian to know about this battle, and very little for an american who's not taking a WW2 history class to know about it either. doubtful that you have a holistic knowledge of the war and highly likely that all of your knowledge is concentrated on the US involvement.
Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-03-03 21:02:02)