Mr_Sinistero
Member
+1|7047|Australia
i am so sick of people who run in front of me when i am support, we come round a corner and run into some enemy soldiers, so having the big gear i lay down cover fire to allow my teammates to get some cover but instead some people decide to run in front of me, no prizes for guessing what happens when someone gets hit by half a dozen rounds close range, then they punish me. if you were fighting in real war would you run in front of someone who was unloading full bore??
beeng
Get C4, here!
+66|7049

AMEN BROTHUH!
I totally agree.  I have the same problem when driving.  I would have thought people were taught as kids to not go running out in the street without looking both ways, or seeing the vehicle and continue running into it's path.

Last edited by beeng (2005-09-30 16:14:26)

Stoned_Smurfz
The Mushroom Man
+1|7109|Australia
LOL they can bunny hop but they cant jump over someone shooting...
n well cars you can hear em coming the only time i think not looking where ur going is an exception is when ur running away from something worse than a car lol - but yeah dont punish for something thats technicallly ur fault..
Jims50cal
Member
+1|7057
Wouldn't it be good if you could punish them for being an idiot and running in front of you.. hmm i think i could be onto something
bluehavoc8686
will frag for food
+11|7103|Pittsburgh, PA, USA

Jims50cal wrote:

Wouldn't it be good if you could punish them for being an idiot and running in front of you.. hmm i think i could be onto something
no i think EA might be on to something. since they are working hard to revamp the punishment system including the unecessary TK punishing and TK punishing when it was the victim's fault.
Jims50cal
Member
+1|7057
Really? perfect, hopefully we'll see this in the next patch, or shortly there after.
McCullough
Member
+7|7101
We finds out in 2 days
Mr_Sinistero
Member
+1|7047|Australia
i like what i read about not getting tks for artillery as commander, not that in my 5 minutes as a commander i got any.
thinner44
Member
+1|7072

Mr_Sinistero wrote:

i am so sick of people who run in front of me when i am support, we come round a corner and run into some enemy soldiers, so having the big gear i lay down cover fire to allow my teammates to get some cover but instead some people decide to run in front of me, no prizes for guessing what happens when someone gets hit by half a dozen rounds close range, then they punish me. if you were fighting in real war would you run in front of someone who was unloading full bore??
They probably would
thinner44
Member
+1|7072

bluehavoc8686 wrote:

Jims50cal wrote:

Wouldn't it be good if you could punish them for being an idiot and running in front of you.. hmm i think i could be onto something
no i think EA might be on to something. since they are working hard to revamp the punishment system including the unecessary TK punishing and TK punishing when it was the victim's fault.
About time. I get fed up with punishers that do it automatically when it was so obviously their fault... To be honest, unless the TKer is doing it on purpose, I believe the 'punish' feature should be removed. We've already lost points, we don't need some lame brain making us feel worse.

I've TKd about 60, none on purpose. Colour glitch, accidental vehicle kill, accidental fire (when they walk in front of you unloading a clip on a RED). Of the 60 or so TKs, I've been punished 90%.
Worf of Borg
Member
+0|7047|Nieuwegein, The Netherlands

Mr_Sinistero wrote:

i like what i read about not getting tks for artillery as commander, not that in my 5 minutes as a commander i got any.
well, I hate to disagree on this one. Artillery can be usefull, but it has happened to me more than once that I am taking over a flag by my poor self and then my commander decides he is gonna help me with artillery at my location though no enemies are near me... Then I get upset and frustrated when it comes to artillery and I will punish him, otherwise if his decision to use it is valid I won't.

And about those punishments for people hwo run in front of your vehicle: those are most of the time idiots! What do they think? That my APC has park distance control or an anti-lock system??

Last edited by Worf of Borg (2005-10-01 07:22:54)

bluehavoc8686
will frag for food
+11|7103|Pittsburgh, PA, USA

Worf of Borg wrote:

Mr_Sinistero wrote:

i like what i read about not getting tks for artillery as commander, not that in my 5 minutes as a commander i got any.
well, I hate to disagree on this one. Artillery can be usefull, but it has happened to me more than once that I am taking over a flag by my poor self and then my commander decides he is gonna help me with artillery at my location though no enemies are near me... Then I get upset and frustrated when it comes to artillery and I will punish him, otherwise if his decision to use it is valid I won't.

And about those punishments for people hwo run in front of your vehicle: those are most of the time idiots! What do they think? That my APC has park distance control or an anti-lock system??
That's a pretty rare case. More typical case: commander calls in arty strike on enemy CP expecting team to wait for it to finish and then rush in to take the base. Moron squad in truck drives directly into incoming arty. Commander gets punished. The Straight Truth: there is absolutely no excuse for getting killed by your own arty. You have a map on your HUD... use it. And if you do get killed by it, no way in hell you should punish. Why would your commander intentionally waste an arty strike on your TK?
bluehavoc8686
will frag for food
+11|7103|Pittsburgh, PA, USA

thinner44 wrote:

bluehavoc8686 wrote:

Jims50cal wrote:

Wouldn't it be good if you could punish them for being an idiot and running in front of you.. hmm i think i could be onto something
no i think EA might be on to something. since they are working hard to revamp the punishment system including the unecessary TK punishing and TK punishing when it was the victim's fault.
About time. I get fed up with punishers that do it automatically when it was so obviously their fault... To be honest, unless the TKer is doing it on purpose, I believe the 'punish' feature should be removed. We've already lost points, we don't need some lame brain making us feel worse.

I've TKd about 60, none on purpose. Colour glitch, accidental vehicle kill, accidental fire (when they walk in front of you unloading a clip on a RED). Of the 60 or so TKs, I've been punished 90%.
60? I'm close to 300. Check out my commander stats if you want to know why. Almost never shot a team mate, but they just keep running into those arty strikes no matter how much I warn. My nick is the same as in here.
[BFL]KER-CHINK
Member
+0|7091|the UK
all i can say to the ppl who punish ppl for there mistake is






                                         NOOOBhttps://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/KER-CHINK/granny3io.gif
dshak
Member
+4|7076
Actually I've been killed by one or two pretty lame arty strikes, so I'm not gonna say there's NO excuse. 99% of the time its probably not the commanders fault, but I get REAL annoyed when he calls in arty during the middle of a firefight and then gets mad that we "didn't get out of the there." If you are in a firefight you can't simply leave your cover and say "sorry guys, gotta go, we're shelling this place in a few seconds." Either way your dead, and I'm gonna try to take down as many of them as I can before I go. Don't call in artillery if there are friendlies ALREADY there, and you'll never get a punish from me. Actually, you never will anyway, I forgive 100% of the time hoping my karma will improve and ONCE someone will return the favor. After countless hours of play I have almost 90 tks, most of which were vehicle strikes or pure stupidity by someone else. I've been forgiven like ONCE in all those times.

Oh, and whats the deal with the anti air missiles? I just read in the next patch that they are improving their effectiveness against fast movers (eat that jet whores!)... but does that still mean if you launch a spread of heatseakers at a chopper (even when its the ONLY aircraft on your whole screen) ONE MIGHT hit if your lucky and somehow the other three will all find their way to friendly vehicles? Has anyone noticed how easy it is to hit your own stuff when you have no clue where it even is, yet some slow moving transport copter, flares or not, seems to evade these things? Shouldn't friendly fire be the exception not the rule? I don't know.

Its not that I don't feel for you guys... can't be an easy job and I don't do it (zero time as commander). I'll just form up, follow my orders, and be the good grunt. Just please refrain from shelling my ass.

now here's the part were people reply saying "you're just stupid, I kill 200 jets a game with AA and have never hit a friendly. I'm the master!"

Last edited by dshak (2005-10-01 15:14:36)

nayo450
Member
+-1|7056
lousy artilry aim- ive seen ppl survive in the "kill zone" and not die, just standing there!
also one time i found my self in my own teem's artilery, dead center of the kill zone, i sprinted full out and survived with out a scratch.
[edit] get a target lock then pull the triger

Last edited by nayo450 (2005-10-01 22:27:59)

dshak
Member
+4|7076
if the target lock comment was for me... I know how AA works. NOt only do I get a target lock, but I usually wait until they drop flares, then pull the trigger.
nayo450
Member
+-1|7056
sorry it was a simple joke, after compareing stats :p
http://bf2s.com/compare.php?pid1=dshak&pid2=nayo450
....dont hurt me...pls.

Last edited by nayo450 (2005-10-01 23:15:49)

thinner44
Member
+1|7072

bluehavoc8686 wrote:

thinner44 wrote:

bluehavoc8686 wrote:

no i think EA might be on to something. since they are working hard to revamp the punishment system including the unecessary TK punishing and TK punishing when it was the victim's fault.
About time. I get fed up with punishers that do it automatically when it was so obviously their fault... To be honest, unless the TKer is doing it on purpose, I believe the 'punish' feature should be removed. We've already lost points, we don't need some lame brain making us feel worse.

I've TKd about 60, none on purpose. Colour glitch, accidental vehicle kill, accidental fire (when they walk in front of you unloading a clip on a RED). Of the 60 or so TKs, I've been punished 90%.
60? I'm close to 300. Check out my commander stats if you want to know why. Almost never shot a team mate, but they just keep running into those arty strikes no matter how much I warn. My nick is the same as in here.
LOL, no matter what you do or say, people just don't know what that big RED flashing circle is all about. I'm sure of one thing in this game, 50% of players are totally blind... and deaf... and stupid.
dshak
Member
+4|7076
okay,

played commander for the FIRST time today, even got my badge (gotta say though it was one of the easiest ones I've recieved)

I do sympathize with you guys more now. Even in the round I got my badge I had 28 arty kills but a fat -8 in team score do to tks. I never once called a strike in where there already were teammates.

I know what you mean, I'll shut up now!
[LFX]angus
Member
+0|7090|Texas...unfortunately
seriously, i think people purposely run into artillery just so they can get negative points for the commander
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7052|Singapore

[LFX]angus wrote:

seriously, i think people purposely run into artillery just so they can get negative points for the commander
I think people hate commanders
Mr_Sinistero
Member
+1|7047|Australia
i get sick of how almost every single round someone tries munity, regardless of how the commander is going. i have only been commander twice and both times within about 5 minutes someone had tried it, i know i am not the best around but i hadnt done anything wrong. people just get the shits about not being commander themselves, they really should just get over it.

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