BF2S Forums No ice at the North Pole

Im honestly starting to believe the 2012 thing.

Last edited by SealXo (2008-06-26 18:57:32)

Perhaps the world will be like a Twilight Zone ending - strangely ironic in the fact that the "Developing/uncivilized" will be dominating the "Western/Civilized" world because of their ("uncivilzed") failure to give up sustainable farming and buying into the consumer mindset while the "civilized" huddle in the cold cement corner of a condemned warehouse waiting for a nonexistant supermarket to plunder.

Maybe the Western world will be akin to the episode about the guy who loves to read but doesn't have the time until a nuclear blast kills everyone and leaves him with his books, only to have him break his glasses.

I love the Twilight Zone.  Classic.

Climate change is natural and has occurred in far more extremes than what we are currently experiencing.

What most don't believe is that for the last decade the average temperature on earth has decrease, fairly consistently.

As for energy costs I don't know who or what is causing it. All I know is that it is going to be a big deal and not fixed quickly.



http://www.dailytech.com/Researchers+Gl … e11672.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/UN+Global+Temp … e11389.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Solar+Activity … e10630.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Mo … e10866.htm

there was an ice age, and i'm guessing the north and south pole are still thawing out. i'm no expert but that's just my take on it. i don't deny that there are climate changes and whatnot but idk how unnatural it is.

Kmarion wrote:

paul386 wrote:

Climate change is natural and has occurred in far more extremes than what we are currently experiencing.

What most don't believe is that for the last decade the average temperature on earth has decrease, fairly consistently.

As for energy costs I don't know who or what is causing it. All I know is that it is going to be a big deal and not fixed quickly.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/7390 … adcrut.jpg

http://www.dailytech.com/Researchers+Gl … e11672.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/UN+Global+Temp … e11389.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Solar+Activity … e10630.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Mo … e10866.htm

This is true. But where it has decreased from was still much higher than normal (insert el nino explanation here). Otherwise the ice would not continue to melt at current levels.

20 years is not a good sampling for a planet that has been around for over 4 billion years.
http://i32.tinypic.com/pwz89.png

All that chart shows is a bunch of change that happens frequently and erratically. WITHOUT HUMAN INTERVENTION!

It goes up, it goes down.

And it also shows are current temperatures are well within standard fluctuations.

paul386 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

paul386 wrote:

Climate change is natural and has occurred in far more extremes than what we are currently experiencing.

What most don't believe is that for the last decade the average temperature on earth has decrease, fairly consistently.

As for energy costs I don't know who or what is causing it. All I know is that it is going to be a big deal and not fixed quickly.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/7390 … adcrut.jpg

http://www.dailytech.com/Researchers+Gl … e11672.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/UN+Global+Temp … e11389.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Solar+Activity … e10630.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Mo … e10866.htm

This is true. But where it has decreased from was still much higher than normal (insert el nino explanation here). Otherwise the ice would not continue to melt at current levels.

20 years is not a good sampling for a planet that has been around for over 4 billion years.
http://i32.tinypic.com/pwz89.png

All that chart shows is a bunch of change that happens frequently and erratically. WITHOUT HUMAN INTERVENTION!

It goes up, it goes down.

And it also shows are current temperatures are well within standard fluctuations.

Are you looking at the same picture as us? Because I see a biiiig spike at the end.

One more thing. You seem to have not noticed that while the vast majority of sources say otherwise, you are basing your entire opinion on one source, one journalist who doesn't write about anything else at all! That strikes me as amusingly odd.

Last edited by Spark (2008-06-26 22:37:25)

Shit yeah, bring on the heat!  You all are a bunch of pussies.  I live above the 45th paralell and could use some tropical weather.  Who the fuck are you to say that the temperature in the 1800s was the CORRECT temp that the earth should be or that there SHOULD be ice at the north pole.

Get over you stupid selves, the climate has never remained constant on this rock.

Almost makes you want to believe in GOD!  Doh!  Did I just say that out loud?

m3thod wrote:

Just perserve the fucking planet even if dont belive in climate change. It's not asking for much.

QFT.

Funny really, as the Americans were the first nation to designate wilderness areas, so as to preserve them for future generations.

Spark wrote:

paul386 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

This is true. But where it has decreased from was still much higher than normal (insert el nino explanation here). Otherwise the ice would not continue to melt at current levels.

20 years is not a good sampling for a planet that has been around for over 4 billion years.
http://i32.tinypic.com/pwz89.png

All that chart shows is a bunch of change that happens frequently and erratically. WITHOUT HUMAN INTERVENTION!

It goes up, it goes down.

And it also shows are current temperatures are well within standard fluctuations.

Are you looking at the same picture as us? Because I see a biiiig spike at the end.

One more thing. You seem to have not noticed that while the vast majority of sources say otherwise, you are basing your entire opinion on one source, one journalist who doesn't write about anything else at all! That strikes me as amusingly odd.

The spike is a computer model, which didn't really happen.

Many intellectuals do not agree with the commonly accepted global warming explanation. For example, Duke University published a major study that humans play a minimal effect on Earth's climate.

http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2005/09/sunwarm.html

Burwhale the Avenger wrote:

Climate change is real, its caused by humans, and its gonna bite us on the ass.

End the excuses and help to do something about it.

QFT!!

Wake the fuck up people..

with all the talk on global warming these days, i've seen plenty of discussion on reducing our carbon footprints, reducing emissions in our vehicles, and reducing consumption.  these are all great ideas but they don't seem to take human population numbers into account.

has anyone looked at reducing the amount of humans on the planet?  i'm not talking genocide here - merely birth control measures.  is the planet capable of supporting more and more people?  last count we are nearing 7 billion.  is THAT sustainable?