BF2S Forums How'd you feel if they built a Mosque in your neighborhood?

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

...So a mosque that'll take up a space of maybe not even 100 feet by 100 feet is going to make your neighborhood look like the middle east?

Oh, okay.

And not wanting their religion around you means...you have a phobia of them.

been to Minneapolis or Columbus Ohio lately?

Nope, a phobia is a fear...I do not fear them, I have a personal preference and a choice, and I choose not live amongst them...I know I know, that makes me a racist. Fine, then I will join the other racists that live in all other ethnic communities that choose to live with their own people. Harlem, Chinatown, Little Havana, Little Italy, Little Korea, Little Greece. etc......or I am the only racist because I choose to live among other white people?

So basically, the Germans desire to "not want to live amongst the jews" was justified? Because you're taking up the same ideologies of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich's desire for that.

Good. Game.

Big difference with those places - people there won't care if a white person moves into Harlem, a Black person moves into Little Italy, etc. It's not like those people are like "I don't want to live near white people". They simply want to be near more of their own. You know, as they are after all a minority.

You, however, find it so stressful to live among muslims just because of what they believe.

Ahhhhh, here we go again with the your the spawn of Hitler bulldhit . Are you really gunna compare me to Hitler because I do not want any Mosques built in my nieghborhood ans I choose not to live in a mostly ME'ern community ? Pretty damned desperate comparission to try and make a point I would say.

NO it is the same thing, any black person that moves into a mostly white nieghborhood is not murdered or harrassed, any more than a whiye person moving into a black nieghborhood would be. It all comes down to personal choice and by you saying there is a "big difference" pretty much admits that every other race is allowed that choice except white people. If white people do it, we are bigots. That my friend makes you the bigger racist. Congrats.

There is a mosque less than 100m away from where my grandma lives. I actually like it. The people are nice and they don't ring any bells like the Christians do (Stupid bells always wake me up). Also right by the mosque there is some turk with a small supermarket that is open 24/7. It's a muslim Kwik-E-Mart

التعريفات wrote:

sit down lowing. Btw, id like you to prove that Islam is based around intolerance and hate.

yer kiddin' right??? howa 'bout you pick up a paper or turn on the fuckin' TV once in awhile. Hell, pick up the Koran and read the word of Islams teacher. You will know who he is, he is the guy that personally beheaded over 600 people.

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

التعريفات wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

he doesnt need to prove it, he just needs to call everyone dirty muslim loving liberals who are destorying the greatest democracy and country in the world (apparantly america but id say that debateable )

what are you trying to say?

1. lowing say alot of stupid things
2. he makes no reasonable argument of his own
3. thinks america is the only country in the world (no trying to rag out on america here)
4. I guess im gonna get massivly flamed now .... *sigh*

[flamesuit]

Neh, I ain't gunna flame ya, you are entitled to your opinions. You simply are not worth responding to. and since I do not recognize your name, apparently you never have been.

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

You suspect.

I.e. it's your opinion that they're not extremists.

Could it be that you have no idea whether they're extremists or not and you're simply labelling them as non-extremist in order to justify your belief that Islam is at it's heart violent and evil?

The notion that the rioters ( all over the ME ) were everyday people living their everyday lives, and the fact that no extremist groups claimed "responsibility" for the rioting, suggests they were not extremists in general. Just a shit load of Muslims pissed off over cartoons.

Mmm, with words like suspect or suggest you wouldn't win in a court.

You are getting pretty damned desporate for an argument if you are trying to tell me to PROVE that the rioters and protesters ALL ovever the world were not extremist. You know it and I know it. SO stop with the witness chair routine

cripes.  i thought it was a simple yes or no question.  what's to argue?  either your okay with it or you are not.

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

and what of being utterly intolerant of

Jews
women
gays
whites blacks
infidels
etc....

ut oh, it is getting pretty damned crowded in here. DO not call me a bigot because I do not tolerate intolerance.

Berster, you better be telling me that your last house purchase was purposely sought for  and bought in a mostly black, hispanic or ME'ern nieghborhood or you can join me wearng this bigot label.

I fixed that one for you and what do we get there?  Ultracoservative Christians.

Oh, thanks for fixing that for me Serge, I guess what you are saying is there is not bigotry against whites then?

Need I remind you that I am not a Christian?

Neither Am I.  We don't belong to any Religion, yet we hold very different views about this issue.  There is some bigotry within Islam, but there also is some within other Religions, that was my point.

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

been to Minneapolis or Columbus Ohio lately?

Nope, a phobia is a fear...I do not fear them, I have a personal preference and a choice, and I choose not live amongst them...I know I know, that makes me a racist. Fine, then I will join the other racists that live in all other ethnic communities that choose to live with their own people. Harlem, Chinatown, Little Havana, Little Italy, Little Korea, Little Greece. etc......or I am the only racist because I choose to live among other white people?

So basically, the Germans desire to "not want to live amongst the jews" was justified? Because you're taking up the same ideologies of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich's desire for that.

Good. Game.

Big difference with those places - people there won't care if a white person moves into Harlem, a Black person moves into Little Italy, etc. It's not like those people are like "I don't want to live near white people". They simply want to be near more of their own. You know, as they are after all a minority.

You, however, find it so stressful to live among muslims just because of what they believe.

Ahhhhh, here we go again with the your the spawn of Hitler bulldhit . Are you really gunna compare me to Hitler because I do not want any Mosques built in my nieghborhood ans I choose not to live in a mostly ME'ern community ? Pretty damned desperate comparission to try and make a point I would say.

NO it is the same thing, any black person that moves into a mostly white nieghborhood is not murdered or harrassed, any more than a whiye person moving into a black nieghborhood would be. It all comes down to personal choice and by you saying there is a "big difference" pretty much admits that every other race is allowed that choice except white people. If white people do it, we are bigots. That my friend makes you the bigger racist. Congrats.

My "hitler bullshit"? I think I've mentioned Hitler maybe twice in D&ST in my almost 2 years of being on BF2s...I'm not COMPARING you to Hitler, I'm saying you share the same ideologies of him. Which you do. You don't want to live amongst a type of people because of what they live in. That is EXACTLY what Hitler wanted. Do you need me to prove it to you?



These are signs that were posted on public and private property in Germany. "Jews not wanted here", it says. Change it to "Muslims not wanted here", and I've pretty much got your desires dead-on.

I have a (white) friend who moved to NYC and eventually moved into Harlem. He's doing just fine, thanks. Obviously you missed what I said - I said white people can move into areas like Little Italy, Harlem etc and people there don't "want them out" like you do. And if they do, they're just as much of a bigot as you are. If a black person in Harlem moved out of Harlem because a white person lived next door to them, then they're EXACTLY like you. A racist and a bigot. I think you've come to the conclusion that I make exceptions for minorities, which I don't. Also as I said, you just like the minorities can move into a more "white" area to be with more of your own. Feel free! THAT doesn't make you a racist or a bigot, it's the fact that you don't WANT to be near anything muslim just because of what they believe.

How exactly does that make me the bigger racist? Not once did I say it's okay for a black person to do the same. I don't care who the fuck lives near me as long as they don't cause trouble.

You're xenophobic and scared of Muslims because you probably listen to Fox News 24/7, lowing. That's the bottom line. Really, is having one of THESE in your neighborhood going to make it look "middle eastern"?

lol, a mosque wouldn't last 5 minutes in my area, the rednecks would come come out of the woods and burn it down.

I'd go in there wearing one of two of my favorite shirts

or

The writing on the bottom says Infidel, to avoid confusion.


Just so they know I'm around...

and lol @ singlemuslim.com ad..

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

If you don't want to be called a bigot, prove that opinion.

That opinion is bigoted. Simple as.

Since it is an utterly subjective statement it is unprovable and only shows to highlight the authors prejudices, prejudices that make him a bigot.

The definition of a bigot is:

a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Being utterly intolerant of Islam makes one a bigot.

and what of being utterly intolerant of

Jews
women
gays
whites
infidels
etc....

ut oh, it is getting pretty damned crowded in here. DO not call me a bigot because I do not tolerate intolerance.

Berster, you better be telling me that your last house purchase was purposely sought for  and bought in a mostly black, hispanic or ME'ern nieghborhood or you can join me wearng this bigot label.

Yup, all of those things would make one a bigot (although for me being intolerant of whites and infidels wouldn't count, because they are not differing creeds, beliefs or opinions).

Actually, I do live in a mostly black neighbourhood. I live near Peckham (New Cross is where I actually live) in South London, it is a very cosmopolitan society and I like it that way.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-21 10:32:07)

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