WTF? Condoms?rawls2 wrote:
You guys all all damned. Good luck finding a good girl now that 1 in 4 has atleast one STD.FallenMorgan wrote:
Conservatives in general are morons. Jesus supposedly taught about tolerance, yet for the past two thousand years Christians have persecuted Jews, Muslims, homosexuals, and women.
lol condoms. We should be using them but are you?FallenMorgan wrote:
WTF? Condoms?rawls2 wrote:
You guys all all damned. Good luck finding a good girl now that 1 in 4 has atleast one STD.FallenMorgan wrote:
Conservatives in general are morons. Jesus supposedly taught about tolerance, yet for the past two thousand years Christians have persecuted Jews, Muslims, homosexuals, and women.
STD > CondomFallenMorgan wrote:
WTF? Condoms?rawls2 wrote:
You guys all all damned. Good luck finding a good girl now that 1 in 4 has atleast one STD.FallenMorgan wrote:
Conservatives in general are morons. Jesus supposedly taught about tolerance, yet for the past two thousand years Christians have persecuted Jews, Muslims, homosexuals, and women.
I'm 16 and not really into the whole sex thing, I just find it a boring concept.rawls2 wrote:
lol condoms. We should be using them but are you?FallenMorgan wrote:
WTF? Condoms?rawls2 wrote:
You guys all all damned. Good luck finding a good girl now that 1 in 4 has atleast one STD.
That's true, but many Liberals were born in conservative families, and unless Parents completely shelter their kids, as times change more people will resist the brainwashing done by conservative parents.G3|Genius wrote:
lol
yeah, the libs are basically taking themselves out of the gene pool.
Libs tend to have smaller families, libs abort more babies, and libs love gays.
eventually all that will be left will be conservatives
1. yeah those supposed new 7 deadly sins aren't doctrine. there was no official decree, it was just an article.sergeriver wrote:
These are a few things I find kinda hypocrite about some Christians, not all.
1-The Vatican speaks of the 7 new mortal sins, yet they don't mention child abuse. I guess being concerned about the environment is PC and gives the Catholic Church good PR. But priests molesting and/or abusing children is not a concern for them.
2-Many Catholic Christians constantly point their fingers at Islam and claim that moderate Muslims should speak out against the extremists. I wonder how many of them speak out against these priests. I guess it wouldn't look ok for their Church to admit such thing.
3-Almost everyMany Christians out there are against homosexuality. Isn't this behaviour the opposite to the teachings of Jesus? If I'm not wrong Jesus advocated to be tolerant to others and yet most Christians are against gays having the same rights than us because "it's not natural".
4--Almost everyMany Christians around the World are against abortion, that's a fact. In the US many Evangelical Conservatives support the death penalty and the war in Iraq. Isn't this a double standard?
Edit: fixed points 3 and 4, words almost every replaced by many. My apologies for generalizing there.
Jesus loved all his children, especially the ones that were rejected by mainstream society.d4rkph03n1x wrote:
Okay, first point is pretty hard hitting, but where are your opinions founded from? Watercooler chat? Homosexuality is frowned upon and I don't believe Jesus supported/would have supported homosexuality. I'm not against abortion, but i'm not the most devoted christian either. How is it a double standard? Abortion and the death penalty are not related in anyway or in any situation. I'm sorry, but most of your argument is flawed.sergeriver wrote:
These are a few things I find kinda hypocrite about some Christians, not all.
1-The Vatican speaks of the 7 new mortal sins, yet they don't mention child abuse. I guess being concerned about the environment is PC and gives the Catholic Church good PR. But priests molesting and/or abusing children is not a concern for them.
2-Many Catholic Christians constantly point their fingers at Islam and claim that moderate Muslims should speak out against the extremists. I wonder how many of them speak out against these priests. I guess it wouldn't look ok for their Church to admit such thing.
3-Almost every Christian out there is against homosexuality. Isn't this behaviour the opposite to the teachings of Jesus? If I'm not wrong Jesus advocated to be tolerant to others and yet most Christians are against gays having the same rights than us because "it's not natural".
4-Almost every Christian around the World is against abortion, that's a fact. In the US many Evangelical Conservatives support the death penalty and the war in Iraq. Isn't this a double standard?
I'm Liberal, I'm married, have a 5 months old kid, I'm pro choice and don't hate gays.G3|Genius wrote:
lol
yeah, the libs are basically taking themselves out of the gene pool.
Libs tend to have smaller families, libs abort more babies, and libs love gays.
eventually all that will be left will be conservatives
2-I know it's a minority. So?clogar wrote:
1. yeah those supposed new 7 deadly sins aren't doctrine. there was no official decree, it was just an article.sergeriver wrote:
These are a few things I find kinda hypocrite about some Christians, not all.
1-The Vatican speaks of the 7 new mortal sins, yet they don't mention child abuse. I guess being concerned about the environment is PC and gives the Catholic Church good PR. But priests molesting and/or abusing children is not a concern for them.
2-Many Catholic Christians constantly point their fingers at Islam and claim that moderate Muslims should speak out against the extremists. I wonder how many of them speak out against these priests. I guess it wouldn't look ok for their Church to admit such thing.
3-Almost everyMany Christians out there are against homosexuality. Isn't this behaviour the opposite to the teachings of Jesus? If I'm not wrong Jesus advocated to be tolerant to others and yet most Christians are against gays having the same rights than us because "it's not natural".
4--Almost everyMany Christians around the World are against abortion, that's a fact. In the US many Evangelical Conservatives support the death penalty and the war in Iraq. Isn't this a double standard?
Edit: fixed points 3 and 4, words almost every replaced by many. My apologies for generalizing there.
2. yea there actually weren't many priests who did that... the majority of priests are good people and all so don't just assume all priests are gonna molest kids.
3. I think Jesus would still love homosexuals but i also think he would call them out on it and tell them they're behaving immorally
4. not really, if they think the war is just and needs to be fought, idk about the death penalty i don't really have a stand on that. it's not really an issue in my state
yeah thats bs, btw Jesus would tell them what they're doing is wrong. the man was quite outspoken. he in fact claimed to be at the very least worldly king of Judah (Son of Man was another name for the king).sergeriver wrote:
2-I know it's a minority. So?clogar wrote:
1. yeah those supposed new 7 deadly sins aren't doctrine. there was no official decree, it was just an article.sergeriver wrote:
These are a few things I find kinda hypocrite about some Christians, not all.
1-The Vatican speaks of the 7 new mortal sins, yet they don't mention child abuse. I guess being concerned about the environment is PC and gives the Catholic Church good PR. But priests molesting and/or abusing children is not a concern for them.
2-Many Catholic Christians constantly point their fingers at Islam and claim that moderate Muslims should speak out against the extremists. I wonder how many of them speak out against these priests. I guess it wouldn't look ok for their Church to admit such thing.
3-Almost everyMany Christians out there are against homosexuality. Isn't this behaviour the opposite to the teachings of Jesus? If I'm not wrong Jesus advocated to be tolerant to others and yet most Christians are against gays having the same rights than us because "it's not natural".
4--Almost everyMany Christians around the World are against abortion, that's a fact. In the US many Evangelical Conservatives support the death penalty and the war in Iraq. Isn't this a double standard?
Edit: fixed points 3 and 4, words almost every replaced by many. My apologies for generalizing there.
2. yea there actually weren't many priests who did that... the majority of priests are good people and all so don't just assume all priests are gonna molest kids.
3. I think Jesus would still love homosexuals but i also think he would call them out on it and tell them they're behaving immorally
4. not really, if they think the war is just and needs to be fought, idk about the death penalty i don't really have a stand on that. it's not really an issue in my state
3-Jesus would never tell them they are immoral. I heard one of his apostles was gay.
From who?sergeriver wrote:
I heard one of his apostles was gay.
Don't believe Judas, he likes to slander people.sergeriver wrote:
I heard one of his apostles was gay.
I don't want to be offensive, but how the hell do you know Jesus wasn't gay? He was all the day hanging out with 12 guys. I mean, he could perfectly have been gay and you wouldn't know.clogar wrote:
yeah thats bs, btw Jesus would tell them what they're doing is wrong. the man was quite outspoken. he in fact claimed to be at the very least worldly king of Judah (Son of Man was another name for the king).sergeriver wrote:
2-I know it's a minority. So?clogar wrote:
1. yeah those supposed new 7 deadly sins aren't doctrine. there was no official decree, it was just an article.
2. yea there actually weren't many priests who did that... the majority of priests are good people and all so don't just assume all priests are gonna molest kids.
3. I think Jesus would still love homosexuals but i also think he would call them out on it and tell them they're behaving immorally
4. not really, if they think the war is just and needs to be fought, idk about the death penalty i don't really have a stand on that. it's not really an issue in my state
3-Jesus would never tell them they are immoral. I heard one of his apostles was gay.
I'm not saying Jesus was gay, but we really can't know, can we?Stingray24 wrote:
Football players hang out with 12 guys quite a bit and they're not all gay ...
yeah i highly doubt that, considering his father killed a city of people who were acting upon their homosexual tendencies.sergeriver wrote:
I'm not saying Jesus was gay, but we really can't know, can we?Stingray24 wrote:
Football players hang out with 12 guys quite a bit and they're not all gay ...
Well, I'd say bi, if anythingsergeriver wrote:
I'm not saying Jesus was gay, but we really can't know, can we?Stingray24 wrote:
Football players hang out with 12 guys quite a bit and they're not all gay ...
Maybe God wasn't in the mood of killing him too.clogar wrote:
yeah i highly doubt that, considering his father killed a city of people who were acting upon their homosexual tendencies.sergeriver wrote:
I'm not saying Jesus was gay, but we really can't know, can we?Stingray24 wrote:
Football players hang out with 12 guys quite a bit and they're not all gay ...
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I'm not saying he was. But there's no evidence he wasn't.Stingray24 wrote:
Even non-religious historians do not believe that He was, Serge.
Lol, no. I really don't care if he was, I consider Jesus the most influential man in history. What really matters is his teachings not his personal life. Muhammad was a pedophile and nobody says anything.Stingray24 wrote:
You don't by chance have a law degree do you Serge?
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So, in your opinion, Jesus can't be gay because of his teachings? What do you think of gay Christians?Stingray24 wrote:
If one's teachings are contradicted by one's lifestyle, they don't hold much weight. Hence the hypocrisy that you discuss in this thread and the importance of Jesus sinless life. Christians hold themselves to a high standard. So when we make choices which contradict our values, people understandably blow the whistle louder than for someone else who does not hold themselves to such a standard. I would point out a big difference between someone who blatantly disregards Christian values repeatedly (pedophilia etc) and someone who makes a bad choice, repents, and turns from it.