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Dilbert_X wrote:

Why not leave talking to just about your own country? Oh wait,

see pattern?

Actually, from an air perspective, we have plenty of capacity to bomb Venezuela back into the stone age. And the Pentagon wouldn't be any busier then than it is now...

Yes I think I see the pattern.

No, you don't.

Ignoring context ftl.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-03-05 01:40:42)

Dilbert_X wrote:

No, you don't.

Ignoring context ftl.

Here's some context.

The US is out of cheap oil.
Iraq has it, the US engineered a bogus war.
Iran has it, the US is engineering another war.
Venezuela has it, the process is just starting anew.

Here's some additional context: I was talking about the context of my post.

And your analysis fails.

Venezuela = fail

They seem to be getting more angry about this than Ecuador, I don't even see how any of this even concerns Venezuela

Anybody realise how this is just like Israel and Lebanon, with Venezuela being Syria and Ecuador being Lebanon, and FARC being Hezbollah, oh and Colombia being Israel (+ lots of Cocaine)

lol

It's eerie

Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-03-05 11:50:09)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080305/ap_ … _venezuela
Hugo Chavez accused the US of fomenting a war between Venezuela and Colombia as part of an effort to colonize his nation. The socialist leader insists that he wants nothing but peace, but failed to explain why he mobilized ten battalions to the Colombian border without any provocation from Alvaro Uribe’s government. Meanwhile, the US has managed to get Ecuador and Colombia into negotiations to dial down the tensions:

President Hugo Chavez charged Wednesday that Colombia and its allies in Washington are responsible for the intensifying crisis in this region — and said perpetual conflict with the United States is inevitable.

    “It must be said: They, the empire and its lackeys, are war. We are peace. We are the path to peace,” Chavez said in a televised speech, his first since Colombia alleged that documents found in a leftist rebel’s computer show the Venezuelan leader has been supporting Colombian guerrillas for years.

    Chavez, who ordered 10 battalions of troops to reinforce Venezuela’s border with Colombia after Colombian troops entered Ecuador on Saturday to attack a rebel hideout, spoke as diplomats struggled to defuse the crisis.

    In Washington, the Organization of American States approved a compromise resolution drafted jointly by Ecuador and Colombia that declared the raid a violation of Ecuador’s sovereignty. It also called for OAS Secretary-General Jose Miguel Insulza to lead a delegation to both countries in hopes of helping them calm tensions.

In related news, the US has expressed some skepticism over claims by the Uribe government that FARC intended to build dirty bombs from uranium. Reporters given access to the memos say that the group discussed reselling the material to international terrorists for fundraising, not for making bombs themselves. The difference is hardly academic, although the uranium itself apparently is. So far, no one has produced any evidence that FARC even attempted to find uranium, let alone purchase it.

As far as fomenting war goes, the US seems to be acting against that interest. While fully supporting Colombia’s right to defend itself against FARC, we apparently got Colombia to admit that they violated Ecuadorian sovereignty in their raid. The last thing the Bush administration needs at the moment is a South American entanglement over FARC, especially with the open issues in Afghanistan and Iraq. That doesn’t mean the US would not come to Uribe’s aid, but despite Chavez’ rhetoric, we aren’t looking for a fighting war in the jungle, either.

The situation remains very touchy. Chavez still has his army mobilized on the border, but Uribe has pointedly refused to follow suit. Colombia wants to de-escalate the tension, sensing that it has overplayed its hand in the FARC raid and has alienated more than just Chavez and Ecuadorian leader Rafael Correa. Uribe would do best by allowing Chavez to bellow a while and then declare victory and go home. He got what he wanted in the raid, and the intel showing Chavez as a terrorist financier will do its damage.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

aint no way the army will release me now.  I know spanish.

Creo que no.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

aint no way the army will release me now.  I know spanish.

Well at least its not dry and dust. Totally tropical. Good to see the US fixing its empires eye on better climates. Will surly boast moral.

FEOS wrote:

You're wrong Kmarion. I know you've got a legitimate source and all, but the key thing you're forgetting is that the US is inherently evil and our giant corporations want war so they can increase their profits and we can take Venezuela's oil for ourselves while simultaneously committing genocide against Colombian native farmers by killing off just enough of their coca crop to make the prices skyrocket so the corrupt corporations can profit from the drug trade.

FINALLY You get it

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

You're wrong Kmarion. I know you've got a legitimate source and all, but the key thing you're forgetting is that the US is inherently evil and our giant corporations want war so they can increase their profits and we can take Venezuela's oil for ourselves while simultaneously committing genocide against Colombian native farmers by killing off just enough of their coca crop to make the prices skyrocket so the corrupt corporations can profit from the drug trade.

FINALLY You get it

Because I was COMPLETELY serious...

Dilbert_X wrote:

Yeah me too.
You're so bad at sarcasm you can't even detect it.

Sorry. I figured it was you who didn't catch my sarcasm.

But good on you for throwing out an unnecessary insult.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-03-06 05:39:41)

CameronPoe wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7282336.stm

Throw another player into the arena...

Why are all these next countries getting involved, it really doesn't concern them. And why so badly against Colombia, sure they violated Ecuadors sovereignty but it was to nab a militant. And it's not like they didn't apologise for the incursion.

Chavez is losing public support and this is his pathetic effort to stay relevant... bye bye Chavez...