BF2S Forums Man Arrested After N.Y. Bank Lets Him Withdraw Millions

I wouldn't have read the article.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

What do you charge him with, over drawing on his account?

Not his account, so fraud...

well i got to alska and live like king LOL

viper313 wrote:

I f somebody tells you that it's your money ,  wouldn't you withdraw it?

if they insist its mine, fuck id withdraw a couple million too!

Throw some at charity, give some to the parents, and probably but an alienware for everyone on BF2s (hrm like 10000x100 = 1,000,000)



id be pissed at being arrested, its the fucking banks fault...

viper313 wrote:

I f somebody tells you that it's your money ,  wouldn't you withdraw it?

Yeah, because I do what everyone tells me.

It's fraud because he knew there was no way it was his, and that the bank made an error.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

viper313 wrote:

I f somebody tells you that it's your money ,  wouldn't you withdraw it?

Yeah, because I do what everyone tells me.

It's fraud because he knew there was no way it was his, and that the bank made an error.

QFT
It's like if you suddenly find that you have extra money if your account which you know shouldn't be there and you spend it, you are committing fraud.

bennisboy wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

viper313 wrote:

I f somebody tells you that it's your money ,  wouldn't you withdraw it?

Yeah, because I do what everyone tells me.

It's fraud because he knew there was no way it was his, and that the bank made an error.

HOw the fuck is it fraud? he Told the bank it wasn't his and they inisisted it was! So he withdrew what he was told was his money. If anyone should be charged it should be the bank with incompetence

The bank should be charged with negligence for it's failure to properly I.D. the man to the account.
The legal definition

A false representation of a matter of fact—whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of what should have been disclosed—that deceives and is intended to deceive another so that the individual will act upon it to her or his legal injury.

Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant's actions involved five separate elements:
(1) a false statement of a material fact; Withdrawal of money that wasn't his.
(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue; He admitted the money wasn't his.
(3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim; Ok, it is my money, give it to me.
(4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement; The fact that he withdrew money is enough reliance.
(5) injury to the alleged victim as a result.The real Ben lost $2 million dollars.

Fraud as an idea - intentional misrepresentation of fact for personal gain.

So why wouldn't it be fraud?

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-02-20 18:35:26)

bennisboy wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

viper313 wrote:

I f somebody tells you that it's your money ,  wouldn't you withdraw it?

Yeah, because I do what everyone tells me.

It's fraud because he knew there was no way it was his, and that the bank made an error.

HOw the fuck is it fraud? he Told the bank it wasn't his and they inisisted it was! So he withdrew what he was told was his money. If anyone should be charged it should be the bank with incompetence

I don't see where it says that? Show me where it says that he told the bank it wasn't his and they insisted it was.

Bank should be charged for it. He told them it wasn't his, they said otherwise. Had he not said anything and just taken it then I'd agree with him being charged. That said, it's pretty stupid of him to do so, but I wouldn't say criminally stupid.

I'm Jamesey wrote:

bennisboy wrote:

I'm Jamesey wrote:

I don't see where it says that? Show me where it says that he told the bank it wasn't his and they insisted it was.

""He says he was told it was his and he could withdraw the money." - Ok he was told it was his, he said it wasn't his"

Again, the news report said that he said he told them it wasn't his, this doesn't make that statement a fact, they would print that if he was lying or not so that people would get all up themselves and go off on a tangent, much like you did. It's impossible to judge what happened and who should be charged with what from a short peice of text on a news website.

Erm I'm not going off on a tangent. Its all to do with him being charged.
We can only go by what we have been told, and we have been told he said it wasn't his. Its all relevant

lol, im pretty sure if someone handed me 5 million i couldnt have used it AND LOST IT in a little over a year

SEREMAKER wrote:

if you were in this situation, what would you have done ?

I would have left it alone.  It's not mine, and I would know it.