BF2S Forums Commanders in vehicles

Aslong as he does his job, I would get in a jeep... get the time for the medal aswell while I command, many people use commander to get 20 kills etc for medals, so why can you do the same for the transport?

but I do agree aslong as he does his job it's ok.

Depends on the map. Passengering as commander is alright with me. But if on Ghost Town where there's only one tank and APC for each side, commander, please sit out.

But if it's Tampa or Smoke Screen or any other map with plenty of vehicles for all, I wouldn't object to it. Try knifing an enemy commander in a tank. However, if our team is hurting, we might need all the firepower we can get.

When I command, occasional I'll hop into the Passenger seat to get a better view of the battlefield.  Maybe just in one of the side doors in the designated transport Blackhawk, but it's more interesting that just staring at a wall in the bottom of the carrier.

I have nothing against cmd's in vehicles IF they dont steal my or my teammate vehicles and they do theyr job...

greenhaven wrote:

Commanding from a vehicle is a perfectly good tactic, if nobody else wants to use the vehicle. On armor maps, there's usually an empty tank laying around, so I take that. It's pretty simple, you only engage the enemy while assets are reloading.

if your team looses over and over, 75% of the time they kill the commander and they know he is always in a vehicle

**LiLp-DeFiNeD wrote:

Why are people hatin on Flyin Commanders

Bleh, personally, I find Commanding from vehicles ok, including Jets or Helo's, Just as long as they can do the commanding, I don't really care.

And who dares say commanding from a Jet is impossible, I've done it, I just Jet the jet flyin really slow and high, Afterburn myself to the edge of the map, turn around(takes only 15 seconds) level out, then quickly open my Laptop, do a sat scan, and place what's needed, don;t even get through half the map most of the time, and if you;re flyin hgh enough, noone should notice you and shoot you out.

But yeah, It's fine in anything, aslong as they're actually commanding.

This post is exactly why people go hating flying commanders....

If you do what you say everytime your assets reload, then you would have been better off just sitting on the runway in the jet.  If you are commanding to the full extent, you'd have time for 1 bombing run, fly to your height/location, do your scan, fly and reload, hit your height/location, do your scan, and repeat.  How is spending more than half your time positioning/commanding helping your team more than a dedicated pilot who doesn't only attack for 15 seconds out of every 60?

You CANNOT fly a jet to the extent the team needs it while preforming the duties of a decent commander.  Flying a chopper/gunning isn't as bad, but still shouldn't be done.  Armor isn't terrible, but if you will not disengage that other tank to send UAV/Arty/car/supplies to the squad that needs it without them screaming for it, you shouldn't be in it.  All fighting commanding isn't as good as sitting somewhere inconspicuous because every death = 15 seconds of your team without a commander.

So in the end, generally the best commander is the one who sits in commander screen the longest.  If you can be in commander screen 100% of the time in the specific seat of a vehicle witout anyone saying anything it's fine.  If someone's got a problem with it, it's generally not a good idea. (IE, if you were to be in commander screen all round in a jet, people will be pissed, so don't get into the jet whilst commanding.  If you're in the 5th seat of a boat, no one will complain, so it's not a big deal)

**PS**  +2 "ZAP" You're good to go!    (Good job reviving an old thread)

The_Jester wrote:

Was that commander a hinderance for his team? Yes, not sitting in a safe, arty-proof spot and getting killed means 15 seconds without commander support. And way more time without uav/scan/arty, if an enemy spec-op blew them up while he was rambling around the map. 2 choices in that case: supply crate/s wasted to repair the commander assets (no supply support for friendly armors) or going all the way back to repair them (lot of time without proper commander support).

And if he was always on the commander screen, why going around in a transport anyway?

For me, the commander should always hide somewhere in the main base, ALWAYS as engineer. He can use abandoned vehicles to defend the base, or to prevent the enemy from stealing them.
Possible exceptions: there are very few people, like 6v6. In this case I prefer a fighting commander, if he can command well anyway.
Or when the team is losing some back flags and nobody defend them.

Coudn't have said it better myself. I see it daily on the server I admin on. As soon as a commander gets in a piece of armor or flys the commanding stops or is limited to a random UAV or Arti strike. You get the extra for doing a job, do it if you take the position.

Agree, as long as the job is getting done and nobody else needs to use the equipment. You can protect and repair assets as well as cyoa all while commanding.

DSRTurtle wrote:

Skorpy-chan wrote:

Hrm. After this thread's come up, I've taken to commanding from transports or air/ground defense because I'm sick of being knifed when looking for stuff. Also, because I'm in need of the transport time and have to defend against vehicle thieves.

I've knifed a couple of commanders in ground AA and ground defense.

Yeah, but I've got more chance of spotting you doing it and summarily killing you.

It's also always funny to watch some tard attempt to baserape but stop when he realises that you're the only one there and you're looking for the TOW.

How about have commander be a gunner or passenger of a chopper Sergio?

Just don't fly or take armor.

Hm. An idea, sort of.

Seeing as the commander can drop UAV and arty and supplies at will, I was figuring that I could probably do my thing while a sniper overlooking stuff, and actually lend a hand supporting the team directly, and seeing things other than blobs on a map all the time.

Would that adversely affect my performance as commander, do you think?

The_Jester wrote:

Was that commander a hinderance for his team? Yes, not sitting in a safe, arty-proof spot and getting killed means 15 seconds without commander support. And way more time without uav/scan/arty, if an enemy spec-op blew them up while he was rambling around the map. 2 choices in that case: supply crate/s wasted to repair the commander assets (no supply support for friendly armors) or going all the way back to repair them (lot of time without proper commander support).

And if he was always on the commander screen, why going around in a transport anyway?

For me, the commander should always hide somewhere in the main base, ALWAYS as engineer. He can use abandoned vehicles to defend the base, or to prevent the enemy from stealing them.
Possible exceptions: there are very few people, like 6v6. In this case I prefer a fighting commander, if he can command well anyway.
Or when the team is losing some back flags and nobody defend them.

You're an idiot.

You can't say that a commander is a hindrance to the team because he's in a situation that he could get artied. I personally as commander on wake will jump in the AA on the mega structure to kill j10 whores and bumblebees. What's next, admins banning commanders because they aren't an engineer?

I really dislike people who think that a great commander will always be in commander screen and will always be spotting like crazy, at the end of the day that's bullshit, a good commander = a commander with VoIP.