BF2S Forums Omfg. (aa)

cpt.fass1 wrote:

slay is just a retard he goes on and on how unfair it is then post states that are good. Just look at there k/d ratio's everyone has close to or over 10, with a lot of teamkills. And there crying about the tanks the best people in tanks aren't even close to a 5 k/d ratio.

It's so obvious that the original AA was useless everyone knows that, it wouldn't ever hit your target flares or not. Piloting didn't take a lot of skill it's boring to me as boring as infantry to some of you pilots "run go prone shot" as appose to "slow down, bomb, reload". If you guys where really looking for some compatition with other pilots on servers it would show in your stats. But you're probably in one of those clans where first priority is to steal the others team air then fly around when you know all is safe and bomb. Now I'm just generalizing here but in all my hours of the game Pilots = Stat junkies, after all the flags are cap'd instead of jumping out of the plane and trying to cap a flag they continue to fly.

They had a good infantry to air mix in BFV now it was unfair on one side, and it seems EA evened it up.

PlaneWHORE. PlaneUSER.

Learn to read. And lay off slay you smacktard.

Original AA was DECENT. Just losers like you never learnt to use it.

i just would like to know what do you "superpilots" think infatrymen should do in order to get from flag to another without having to being blown up by bombs at every step? come on, spit it out: the ability to bomb things up without being threathened by anything sounds just good to you. it's way too clear. you don't want infantry to be able to shoot you down with aa turrets/vehicles, so what the hell should we do in order to defend ourselves from planes? you tell us...

raz wrote:

4lter_3go wrote:

ive noticed something about the AA.  and its very interesting (not the fact thats its insanely accurate, but something else)

Ahhh, thanx alot for your wonderful n' valuable comment my friend.

reread my post

Umibozu_IT wrote:

i just would like to know what do you "superpilots" think infatrymen should do in order to get from flag to another without having to being blown up by bombs at every step? come on, spit it out: the ability to bomb things up without being threathened by anything sounds just good to you. it's way too clear. you don't want infantry to be able to shoot you down with aa turrets/vehicles, so what the hell should we do in order to defend ourselves from planes? you tell us...

learn to fly ?

cpt.fass1 wrote:

slay is just a retard he goes on and on how unfair it is then post states that are good. Just look at there k/d ratio's everyone has close to or over 10, with a lot of teamkills. And there crying about the tanks the best people in tanks aren't even close to a 5 k/d ratio.

It's so obvious that the original AA was useless everyone knows that, it wouldn't ever hit your target flares or not. Piloting didn't take a lot of skill it's boring to me as boring as infantry to some of you pilots "run go prone shot" as appose to "slow down, bomb, reload". If you guys where really looking for some compatition with other pilots on servers it would show in your stats. But you're probably in one of those clans where first priority is to steal the others team air then fly around when you know all is safe and bomb. Now I'm just generalizing here but in all my hours of the game Pilots = Stat junkies, after all the flags are cap'd instead of jumping out of the plane and trying to cap a flag they continue to fly.

They had a good infantry to air mix in BFV now it was unfair on one side, and it seems EA evened it up.

Don't you even dare start comparing me to the "bomb reload bomb" groups of people. You don't even know me, and I don't appreciate you calling me a retard.
Ask a few different guys that have played with me on Wake Island, I seek out jets, and ground targets... I'll sweep the carrier once in a while(usually when we have all our flags secure) but other than that, it's jets, helos, ground targets. Then, in the rare case that they get all of our flags and I'm the last one left, I'll kill off remainin troops around a certain flag, take out the jets, bail and cap a flag. Afew times this has happened, we came back and won. I think a BF2s member was in there...  believe it was Landepaukku(sp?) I'll admit sometimes I do get in it for the points, but who the heck doesn't eery now and then? This game has ranks, it's natural in a competitive person to try and get better than his peers.

Also, I'm in a clan where we have teamwork and communication. we'll have some people on the ground, and one or two in the air, constantly communicating. "hey I need this tank bombed" "Clear out northbase so we can cap it back" We use our individual skills to help our team.

If you're going to come off with personal attacks, and try to have a discussion with me(or anyone else) and not have any clue what you're talking about, please leave this topic.

Umibozu_IT wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

If you wanted infantry, go play CS:S or karkand only.

Its an all-round game. And 'infantry-lovers' screwed it up.

if you wanted dogfights and bombing land targets, go play Lock On or Il2 sturmovik. great fun, i tell you. but you seem to want bf2 to be a plane-only game, with land troops unable to react against planes. we, on the other side, only want a chance to defend ourselves against planes.

Don't understand 'all-round'?

Well this thread has proved 1 thing, the average IQ of the average ground pounder does not exceed 100.

Derrr.... shoot the gun.... derr... reload.... *bombed* Derr... nerf duh planes! Derrrrrrr

Jesus christ. Planes, helis, tanks, APCs, buggies, trucks and infantry are ALL PART OF THE GAME. IF YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH EVERYTHING, PLAY ANOTHER GAME.

I'm so damn sick and tired of people saying "Get out of the plane and get on the ground you wussy!".... I mean fuck, I'll get on the ground when the map rotation gets to Karkand, but so long as it's Dragon Valley, Oman or Daqing, I'm gonna be in the air damnit! Shut the hell up ground pounders, acting like everyone should always be on the ground fighting like you do. Some of us actually have the skill to do more than aim an assault rifle, and WE'RE REALLY SORRY YOU DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN HOW TO FLY A PLANE.

"DERRRR, HOP ON THE AA AND USE YOUR 3 BRAIN CELLS AND SHOOT DOWN DAT PLANE!!! DERRRRRR."

Christ.

polarbearz wrote:

Umibozu_IT wrote:

i just would like to know what do you "superpilots" think infatrymen should do in order to get from flag to another without having to being blown up by bombs at every step? come on, spit it out: the ability to bomb things up without being threathened by anything sounds just good to you. it's way too clear. you don't want infantry to be able to shoot you down with aa turrets/vehicles, so what the hell should we do in order to defend ourselves from planes? you tell us...

have a pilot on your team that is willing to take down the opponent pilot. Or learn to fly yourself so you can do the job. Instead of whining.

So let me get this straight.  AA emplacements should have no business threatening jets.  If you want to defend against jets, you need your own jet.

Ok, now lets extend that to Tanks.  TOW/AT troops should regularly miss an enemy tank.  C4 shouldn't signifcantly damage Tanks.  The only way to get rid of a Tank in your base should be to get your own Tank.  If you can't do that, you suck and deserve to be owned.

Does this sound right to you?

polarbearz wrote:

Umibozu_IT wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

If you wanted infantry, go play CS:S or karkand only.

Its an all-round game. And 'infantry-lovers' screwed it up.

if you wanted dogfights and bombing land targets, go play Lock On or Il2 sturmovik. great fun, i tell you. but you seem to want bf2 to be a plane-only game, with land troops unable to react against planes. we, on the other side, only want a chance to defend ourselves against planes.

Don't understand 'all-round'?

so why do you whine as soon as they balance the game a bit?  because you know, before the 1.2 aa was ineffective and planes were untouchable by infantry. so where was the "all-round" you're talking about??? was it all-round before the patch? no, it was planes only, because ppl on foot could not deal with planes. you could only hope to have a decent pilot on your side (and hope he was interested in shooting down enemy planes instead of bombing enemy carrier / runway)

ill adapt hopefully (haven't played the new patch yet)... I haven't died in a jet in a week my 500 kill streak will live on even if I have to be more cautious.

polarbearz wrote:

If you wanted infantry, go play CS:S or karkand only.

Its an all-round game. And 'infantry-lovers' screwed it up.

Oh, please.  You're good.  You'll figure something out.

Like for infantry, it paid off to be in a balanced squad and communicate.

Now, the fly boys will need the ground pounders to take out AA and help them out a bit.  It should be a TRUE combined arms task force now.  Infantry guys won't get help bombing tanks and stuff unless they can help pave the way by eliminating AA.  This SHOULD make us work together more often.

You let me know where you're flying, and me and some of the boys will come over and take out the AA for you so you can make an unmolested bombing run.  Teamwork, baby.  THAT'S what BF2 is supposed to be about.

ROFL there is nothing on planes, i got hit ONCE on wake, and i just circled back and blew both ESSEX b4 heading back to repair

Put it this way. If the AAs HAD to get a solid lock, and the missiles were precise AFTER the lock was achieved, fine and good. AT, TOWS need the same skill to be guided in that way.

Now? You need 0.5 seconds worth of lock to blow a plane out the air. A trained monkey could take down an ENTIRE air force with this kind of lock.

'Hear the beep? Click the mouse. GOOD BOY! Have a banana'.

I appreciate strengthened AA. It seperates the boys from the men. But not to this extenet.