BF2S Forums Spawn Protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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no that makes no sense....

example... karkand... tank- apc sitting down the hallway,  waiting for you to spawn.   That is LAME, as well as a n00b tactic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

If not a timed spawn protection then something that detect were the enemy is at and spawn you away from them!! 

2 seconds is not that much time... about enough time for you to move 6 steps.  About enough for you to move out of the hallway to get away from the dumb a$$ n00b campers.

"Yes, this is horrible!" ~Samir Nagheenanajar (Office Space)

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Last edited by CMDR_Dave (2005-09-20 04:52:09)

Well I know the very moment I spawn I am moving someplace. Or at least turning. Have you noticed when someone spawns it takes a few seconds before they do anything? I believe that your body spawns before you are able to even move. And hence spawn killing is soooo easy.

I think there is some kind of protection, the amount of times I've unloaded a L85 clip into someone 4-5 metres away for nothing to happen is stupid. I'm usually prone too. What's worse is that they turn around and take 2-3 shots and I'm dead. It's just stupid.

pish180 wrote:

But it could also go both ways... you cant kill anyone for 2 seconds... and they cant kill you.  Quite simple if you ask me.  Probably even more simple to impliment.

That would be a solution. But still, not every spawn killer is a camper.
Example: Karkand, American team, the top right spawn point at the beginning of the game. I hate it when there are spawn killers over there. Mostly its a group so you kill one and get shot by another. And they keep moving.
This is just one of those situations where the server admin comes in. Kick them or even ban them.

Zveroboy wrote:

If you're getting spawn killed in your own uncappable base it's your own fault for letting that tank get there in the first place.

And also, if you're getting spawn killed SPAWN SOMEWHERE ELSE!

Stop giving the guy 2 points a go and get back in the fight somewhere else.

lol couldent have said it better myself

and i fail to see how three seconds is gunna save u from a spawn camper?
so the apc kills u 3 seconds later than it usually would? lol ur still dead....

Well, I guess that everybody whom is complaining about spawn killing doesn't understand what this game is about.

1. It is natural that a base gets so much pressure that you cannot hold it anymore without taking the risk of spawning at a hot zone!
2. You should join squads, there are your spawn points who are pretty safe (otherwise the squadleader is a complete retard or just unlucky)
3. Avoid spawning at bases that are being over run (okay, this is twice I said this but stop being a n00b and giving me these 2 points extra, 4 when a medic wants to revive you, and six when I feel nasty and let the medic revive you!!)

I am a tank freak and I will not consider one moment how sad it is for you when you get spawnkilled by me, I will do everything I can to spwankill you simply because it helps my team to take that flag! If you think this is unfair think about it again with what I just wrote about it. I will do anything to get n00bs like that!! I can effectivly clear a complete flank on your flag by using this tactic.

pish180 wrote:

1. It is natural that a base gets so much pressure that you cannot hold it anymore without taking the risk of spawning at a hot zone!

I dont know where u pulled that out of...
It would be more like... Team 2 is taking the point now Team 1 cannot spawn there anymore, once it goes neutral is when it is "hot zone".   

The only risk should be to be overwhelmed by Team 1.  Not to have a tank waiting in the same spot to kill you for the 5 time in a row.

You obviously have no tatics at at all... You would realise... if you took another spawn pt first... then 1/2 the team would break up and stop guarding the current one... But again you use your team as a scapegoat, and make it sound like you actually care about them when really all you want is more stats padding.

I am not saying everyone that kills a spawner is spawn camping!!! not at all... but to camp out and sit and wait for spawner... IS 100% n00b!!!! Becasue that is the only way you can get kills, and possibly get a Gold Star.  Sad!!

Maybe i will have to play against you just to c4 your 15 times in 1 map.  well you beter hope you are spawn raping... bc that is your only chance. 
After looking at your stats... i guess i see why you stay in the tank...

Well I guess it is just a matter of opinion then, but when we are attacking we mark that complete zone as HOT  only for the fact that we will be fired upon. While a grey zone is still hot but easy to defend from the outside. I don't hear you a bit about my suggestion of joining a squad?! It is so very easy to read things your way but I do know that when I am tanking my team wins! And it is very easy for you to say that you "Looked" at my stats and start using that as an excuse just like I am using according to you my "team" as an excuse. Get real or get owned. Oh by the way, EA has said that there is no such thing as "base raping" or spawn killing.

See you at the end of my barrel, boy!

Or...hit a cow bell.

Yeah i do like Urban maps... i think that might go for most of the best players in BF2 do.

EA has said that there is no such thing as "base raping" or spawn killing.

Does it have to be said by EA for it to be wrong or legit????  Its sad you take The: "My mommy told me" story there.  NO... It is called common sense!  Maybe it wuz... hmm eXp.Elecrik (? i dont really care how u spell it) who got stat striped for going into knife and pistol servers.  He got the stats stripped and then the anncounment came out. You dont have to be told by someone that there is no such thing as "spawn raping", something you should be able to figure out on you own. 

Do you know what "playing in the spirit of the game" means?  Maybe you need to think about it.

One of the problem is even before you can move after spawning, the game freeze you and you are an easy target, but don't blame other player for a game bug.

How is it a game bug?????????????  It is not... it is a USER decision to spawn camp, and a very poor one mind you.  What is the easiest, and fastest way to get points???  Well, why dont i spawn camp, this way i dont even get shot at... They dont even get a chance to even see me, or fight back.  I can get them with their hands tied behind their back. "thats the spirit right there!"  They should just make the game.... spawn rap till they submit... 

Its REALLY SAD to see people that acutally think spawn raping (camping) is a good tatic!!!

Do I like it? No.  But it's my fault, I can pick a new spawn point or my squad leader where there is less heat.

No it is not your fault for choosing that point, the game should either put you in another sub-spawn point or have spawn protection.  Which is why i am posting this topic.

You all realize that EVERY map has more then 1 spawn pt that can be captured???  The excuse to "help me team" is complete "BS"!!! you can help your team more by driving the fast tank to a futher spawn pt, and capturing those before other infantry can make it that far.... That is helping your team.

I accepted what come with it? Yes

and yes i do accept it, not many other options I have besides that.  But yet the game will still spawns me in the same spot where the spawn raper is again.

And it is very easy for you to say that you "Looked" at my stats and start using that as an excuse just like I am using according to you my "team" as an excuse.

and i did look at your stats... and i was referring to your ground (infantry) skills!!  As i said... you wouldnt last in a Karkand map to long if you didnt get a tank/APC.  While I on the other hand can use vehicles or go on foot, and still get the job done, maybe that is why I play so many ubran maps, more skill is required to move on foot.

Don't take it personally pish its just my POV really. Discuss. Like a mature adult. Or set up a committee

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=18506#p18506

polarbearz dont worry i dont take any of this personally!!!

I am just not very good at explaining what it is that is wrong with spawn camping.  Morally it is wrong... at least for my self.  But their is more then you all are missing, about it.  Mabye just personal expericne of it in action.

I just dont understand how you can like spawn camping on purpose?????? Just answer me this question... why are they not "fair game" after the 2 seconds after they have spawned (assuming their wuz spawn protection - cant kill you, you cant kill them)???? Why can their not be sub spwan points????

I just dont EVERY see myself going to kill new spawners on purpose, by taking my tank their and sitting. i guess it is a matter of opinion... if you like camping + easy kills (maybe you cant kill anyother way) then have a field day.   I am a person that does not like sniper campers, nor will i EVER be found in the same spot over and over and over camping!!

I would like to make an example here: 
Map: karkand 32 player.
If you are in a tank/apc/humvee you would be able to make it past the first spawn point MUCH faster then any infnatry on foot.  Thus letting you go take the unguared back spawn point.   This would help you team out MUCH more then camping down the hallway of the 1st spawn point!!  You team would not be able to flank the enemy and come from multiple directions.  The only way i could see spawn camping is if it is the last capturable spawn point and your all moving in on it.  And you CANT let the spawners get away to get the back spawn points.

Maybe i think more strategic then most of you.... i dont know know.  But to acutally think that spawn camping is "good" or "fun", is just rediclious!!!

Again i have said this several times.  killing a few spawners on your way is nothing of what i am talking about!!  I have done that many times on my way to capture a flag! 

Because urban maps are a FRAGFEST and they have a shitload of time so they want max frags possible. Its not a 'best' player thing.

I had to read this about 8 times just to make sure i read it right... Alright, 1st off, look at the bf2s.com Leaderboards... I assure you you will not find someone on their that does not have an Urban map as the most played!! In all of my 350+ of playing bf2... urban maps seem to be the shortest not the longest!  And to get a lot of kills/teamwork on urban maps you must be good on foot plain and simple!!  You do not alwasy get a tank/apc or chopper.  Also please look at my teamwork score, I am a TEAM player!  Karkand going as medic requires you to stick your neck out to go res a teammate or to run over to your buddy and give him ammo/health when he is low.

pish180 wrote:

    You all realize that EVERY map has more then 1 spawn pt that can be captured???  The excuse to "help me team" is complete "BS"!!! you can help your team more by driving the fast tank to a futher spawn pt, and capturing those before other infantry can make it that far.... That is helping your team.

That is what i call a DUMB, lone wolf tactic. Help your team? You'll just lose the tank. If the other team is any better than you are lol.

I was reffering to any vehicle, btw.  Did you know that a humvee seats 4 players???  Are you aware that the tank seats 2? or the apc seats 5??  J/w?

pish180 wrote:

    Maybe i will have to play against you just to c4 your 15 times in 1 map.  well you beter hope you are spawn raping... bc that is your only chance.  lol
    After looking at your stats... i guess i see why you stay in the tank...

THe people i know that CAN do this don't sit in forums and talk shit. *rolls eyes* I'm betting 2 to 1 half the time he gets blown away.

This was a bit low of me saying that... but feel free to look at my stats.

o btw, I completley agree that eXp.electric should sue EA for that.  But that was also my point.  Someone does not have to tell you that spawn camping is right or wrong for you to know that it is.  Or in electric's case, does EA have to tell you/him... That Joining pistol/knife servers is wrong becase you have every intent on getting you Pistol/knife badges??? Please keep an open mind, As i am trying too. Note: Everytime i have said spawn CAMPING, not spawn killing.  There is a BIG difference.