It's not your job to be friends with him, but its your responsability to tell the councelor that you think he might be crazy and what he might be contemplating.
15 more years! 15 more years!
Buy kevlar, then be nice to him. At least your covered when it all goes down.
Seriously though, everybody that posted above is pretty much on point. You don't have to be his friend, just treat him the way that you'd like to be treated. A little dignity and outgoingness goes a very long way. It's obvious that he's longing for attention by his various acts. What you need to watch out for is the validity of his statements. Especially when he starts saying that he's sick of it all.
Seriously though, everybody that posted above is pretty much on point. You don't have to be his friend, just treat him the way that you'd like to be treated. A little dignity and outgoingness goes a very long way. It's obvious that he's longing for attention by his various acts. What you need to watch out for is the validity of his statements. Especially when he starts saying that he's sick of it all.
thats an idiotic statement lolz that will get the whole school dead and on the channel 11 newsMitch wrote:
It's not your job to be friends with him, but its your responsability to tell the councelor that you think he might be crazy and what he might be contemplating.
be nice to him convince the others to be nice also grow some balls u only LIVE once
put it this way. I've been on the receiving end of this kind of crap myself, ( yes, i lack many social skills) and you know what? it just takes BEING NICE, and i'm almost completely changed. YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAT A LAZY, COWARDLY, IDIOTIC BULLY. yes, a BULLY. if you are nice, then he might well be nice. note I am talking form my own experience here. 5 years I had to put up with this crap, and I am still suffering because of it due to the effect on my schoolwork.
( caps intended. it is supposed to be angry. I hate assholes like this with a passion, having been bullied for 5 years.)
( caps intended. it is supposed to be angry. I hate assholes like this with a passion, having been bullied for 5 years.)
Last edited by samfink (2008-01-25 13:02:53)
Well said. Makes me think of the prolonged effect you may have. I often wonder what happened to the handful of hardcore outcasts that were in my high school and how would I react if I saw them now??? 18 years later!adam1503 wrote:
, he will remember the times when you tried to be nice to him and tried to engage him in conversation. Try to take an interest in what he talks about: fake interest if you have to, even though it will be uncomfortable for you. Smile and aknowledge him when you pass him in the corridor.
I know I've run into one girl..you know the girl who was so shy, scared of everything, zero self esteem, covered in acne, brillo pad hair, not very attractive, very old hand-me-down clothes worn every day practically... yeah, that one. I believe I've seen her boarding a commuter train in San Francisco a couple times looking very up-to-date with the latest SF styles, obviously no acne, not a shy-scared kid, long shiny hair, self esteem beaming from her countenance. Makes you realize how small people are in High School....because in High School, kids think they're at the pinnacle of perfection...life does not go on after those quick years of education!
This kid needs a couple more years & some parties to ease his interest in his computer. Social retards need advice on whats kool & what's not, some never break out of it. Just mind your own business & stop being such an little asshole & you may not be one of the ones he shoots on his rampage, hopefully that never happens.
Talk to your councilor about it.
Talk to your councilor about it.
Judging by the situation and your dismissal of the popular cliques immature behavior ("we tried to nice, but we just couldn't"), I would say that you are only posting this in an attempt to justify your actions and ease your guilty conscience. Nothing really against you, but your conscience is right and you should take the advice people have already posted. The only really "cool" people are those who have the guts to stand up and do whats right instead of seeking to blend in at others expense.
Ignoring the social structure of high school, I was always a nice guy to everyone back in those fun years. Consequently, the outcasts found that they could talk to me, or even want to be my friend because so many others had ignored them. Yes, many of these people I did not particularly like or relate to, and I had to sometimes ease them off, but they were happy when they had someone they could talk to. Those with lesser social skills just want to be able to talk to someone without the social pressure that comes with everyone else. It's a fear to be rejected and insulted when one tries to fit in. Let him know that you are approachable, by putting a foot forward and ease the pressure. Be disapproving of the attitude that others have towards him if it is negative.
Stop bullying him, dickhead. Its obviously pricks like you and your classmates that are putting him down.
They are all 14...just so everyone knows.
get some weed, smoke it with him and then he should have new and more pacifist interests.
this is a situation that has three possible outcomes
1. he kills himself
2. he makes it to collage and becomes a rich man withe a hot wife
3. he realises how awkward he is, and starts to workout (grate for self esteem) becomes a muscle man and gets all the ladies
but seriously dont treat pepole like dirt just becase they are different
1. he kills himself
2. he makes it to collage and becomes a rich man withe a hot wife
3. he realises how awkward he is, and starts to workout (grate for self esteem) becomes a muscle man and gets all the ladies
but seriously dont treat pepole like dirt just becase they are different
Last edited by herrr_smity (2008-01-25 17:20:45)
This is the only advice i can give youRaphi wrote:
First of all, I want to say: This is a very serious topic. I'm sharing my problem with 3 other gay guys, we have no idea what to do.
Ok, I'm in a class, with 17 (2 girls left the class) and 5 guys. I get dissed every day. I tried to be friends with them but they dont like me. I act so weird and i also look gay and i have got glasses, sorry, I just can't explain. Everybody hates me, im repeating the class since i failed at the last year and i told them that i play CSS every night from 10 PM to 6 AM when my parents are asleep. I also looks like a geek tbh.
The problem is this: As I said, i get dissed everyday and they im going to kill myself/one of them , but the whole class hates me so... A girl told me that she'd love me, i took it serious but she just joked.. These things are happening every day. My classmates are fucking scared, they don't really believe that i come to school with my fucking m4, but what if i loose it and come with a knife?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
**SERIOUS MODE ON**
Dude...... just stick up for him and get your friends to do also.....if he has any trust left in him he will see you are not an ass like everyone else is and you will be safe from nerd rage.....if he goes on a shooting spree you will be safe from it probably.
Last edited by .:ronin:.|Patton (2008-01-25 17:40:59)
Don't do it out of fear, do it out of compassion and the fact that everyone wants to be accepted.
Let the teacher or a responsible adult know what concerns you about this kid...(in private... and be constructive)
School can be a really horrible experience for some... You don't owe this kid anything... but being nice to this kid even if he's socially akward... regardless of what the so-called cool kids say... is the right thing to do...
I'll give you a hint... all the kids you think are the coolest and have it together...don't... They are just as scared about what others think of them... they are just good at bluffing... good luck
School can be a really horrible experience for some... You don't owe this kid anything... but being nice to this kid even if he's socially akward... regardless of what the so-called cool kids say... is the right thing to do...
I'll give you a hint... all the kids you think are the coolest and have it together...don't... They are just as scared about what others think of them... they are just good at bluffing... good luck
Love is the answer
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I know a kid like that once. For two years I used to pick the shit out of him and practically hate him in every way possible. He didn't have any friends, he talked in a slightly weird fashion and he was generally a little "dreamy" all the time.
The irony is that after the two years, he'd stopped doing the weird stuff and now we're friends. Not close friends, but friends nonetheless.
The irony is that after the two years, he'd stopped doing the weird stuff and now we're friends. Not close friends, but friends nonetheless.
Well if i was you i'd join him on the merriment. But since you have "friends" there. I'd suggest some good preventive measures in case he really does go psycho.
go to school counsellor
Talk to him, seriously.
Don't do shit like telling teachers, or sticking up for him. Sit him down and tell him what you think about him, it's the most noble thing you can do, and you should have the balls to do it.
I personally did it to this fat kid who no one liked, I told him how it was and what he could do, hand on heart -- 6 months later he had a girlfriend and no one was bullying him. You can fart arse around the situation or you can actually help, tell the kid what he needs to know.
Don't do shit like telling teachers, or sticking up for him. Sit him down and tell him what you think about him, it's the most noble thing you can do, and you should have the balls to do it.
I personally did it to this fat kid who no one liked, I told him how it was and what he could do, hand on heart -- 6 months later he had a girlfriend and no one was bullying him. You can fart arse around the situation or you can actually help, tell the kid what he needs to know.
QFT, from experience like sam.adam1503 wrote:
It souns like the poor guy just lacks a full set of social skills he needs to be able to socialise and fit in. That, combined with his obviously rock-bottom self esteem will make him feel like a social outcast.
Ill bet he has a hart time making sense of social situations too, like when he believed the girl who liked him was being genuine. In my experience, kids like this always get treated like shit, either intentionally or unintentionally, by one person or another, throughout their school lives. I dont think you will be able to stop everyone treating him like they do.
That doesnt mean you shouldn't try though; even though everyone else in your class will still treat him like shit, he will remember the times when you tried to be nice to him and tried to engage him in conversation. Try to take an interest in what he talks about: fake interest if you have to, even though it will be uncomfortable for you. Smile and aknowledge him when you pass him in the corridor.
If you can do this once a day, everyday, it will make a world of difference to him, and he will feel better about himself even though everyone else continues to bully him.
And if you are still really concered about him, bring this up with a school counsellor or nurse.
also hakei is right too.
Sounds like if everybody pulled their heads out of their arses and stopped being such shits he'd do just fine.Raphi wrote:
First of all, I want to say: This is a very serious topic. I'm sharing my problem with 3 other guys, we have no idea what to do.
Ok, I'm in a class, with 17 (2 girls left the class) and 5 guys. There's one buy, which gets dissed every day. First we tried to be nice to him, but we just couldn't be. He's acting so weird and is also looking gay and he got glasses, sorry, I just can't explain. Everybody hates him, he's repeating the class since he failed at the last year and he told us that he's playing CSS every night from 10 PM to 6 AM when his parents are asleep. He also looks like a geek tbh.
The problem is this: As I said, he gets dissed everyday and me and my friends think he's going to kill himself/one of us if we continue doing it, but the whole class hates him so... A girl told him that she'd love him, he took it serious but she just joked.. These things are happening every day. Me and my friends are fucking scared, we don't really believe that he comes to our school with his fucking m4, but what if he comes with a knife?
We're really scared, we've got no idea what to do..
I need your help, really.
Edit: I only know him since 6 months, but yet he's already the most hated person in around 6 classes...
One thing's for sure, if SOMEONE doesen't pull their thumb out their ass, stop the cliquey circle-jerk and be nice to the kid, he WILL snap.
I should know, the same thing happened to me in school. Nobody bothered to give me a break most of the time (although luckily some people were decent enough to be sympathetic and let me rant at them), and if I was in a particularly bad mood, I snapped and tried to stab people with whatever was to hand. If I hadn't been picked out by the teachers as a potential problem and shoved into the special needs system to keep me out of trouble, god knows what would've happened. (As it was, I ran into a bunch of like-minded people and founded an exclusive social group based on wargames and nerdiness.)
I should know, the same thing happened to me in school. Nobody bothered to give me a break most of the time (although luckily some people were decent enough to be sympathetic and let me rant at them), and if I was in a particularly bad mood, I snapped and tried to stab people with whatever was to hand. If I hadn't been picked out by the teachers as a potential problem and shoved into the special needs system to keep me out of trouble, god knows what would've happened. (As it was, I ran into a bunch of like-minded people and founded an exclusive social group based on wargames and nerdiness.)
Add me to xfire and play some CSS with him. That might be a good way to bond...
Ok i've been studying swiss gun laws and other shit. And i must say if he tries anything you are fucked! With the ease of fire-arm and ammo accessibility he will have a high success rate. But this also means you can take adequate steps to defend yourself.