lowing
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

I think you guys are pissed about this title thread becausee it is SPOT ON and true, and you guys are scrambling to debunk it. Pulling out every trick in the book

1. You're generalizing <-------one of my favorites

2. You hate all Muslims <-------this ine is funny considering number 1.

3. You are insulting

4. You're source sucks
etc, etc,..........

One thing that is missing is the fact that this OP is NOT true by the definition of the word APPEASEMENT.
This is not spot on.

1-True.

2-Kinda true.

3-True.

4-Kinda true.
Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
adam1503
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lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
I really cant get over the fact that you keep using the word "appeasement" without knowing what it really means in the context in which you use it.
lowing
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adam1503 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
I really cant get over the fact that you keep using the word "appeasement" without knowing what it really means in the context in which you use it.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.....


I quoted you the defintions of the word and then I tied them to the OP if you refuse to acknolwledge that then it is your problem not mine.
sergeriver
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lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-01-20 05:53:32)

adam1503
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lowing wrote:

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.....

I quoted you the defintions of the word and then I tied them to the OP if you refuse to acknolwledge that then it is your problem not mine.
You quoted the first thing that came out of a search engine without thinking about what it means.  If you think about it, this isnt appeasement.  Youre wrong, and youre too stubborn to admit it.
Switch
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.
The yanks are just pissed off that we decided to discontinue a phrase that they coined.  We're showing a lack of 'appeasement' to the US if anything.  Sorry guys but Gordon Brown isn't the lapdog that Blair used to be, get over it.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
lowing
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adam1503 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.....

I quoted you the defintions of the word and then I tied them to the OP if you refuse to acknolwledge that then it is your problem not mine.
You quoted the first thing that came out of a search engine without thinking about what it means.  If you think about it, this isnt appeasement.  Youre wrong, and youre too stubborn to admit it.
"The policy of granting concessions to potential enemies to maintain peace. "   I think I can tie this in

1: to bring to a state of peace or quiet : calm
2: to cause to subside : allay <appeased my hunger>
3: pacify conciliate; especially : to buy off (an aggressor) by concessions usually at the sacrifice of principles


I am confident I can tie all this to the OP as well..........how much longer do you plan on remaining in denial??
lowing
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KILLSWITCH wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.
The yanks are just pissed off that we decided to discontinue a phrase that they coined.  We're showing a lack of 'appeasement' to the US if anything.  Sorry guys but Gordon Brown isn't the lapdog that Blair used to be, get over it.
Personally I do not give it shit if you call a bannana split. It is the reasons you are doing it that now shows GB as appeasing the Muslim community
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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lowing wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.
The yanks are just pissed off that we decided to discontinue a phrase that they coined.  We're showing a lack of 'appeasement' to the US if anything.  Sorry guys but Gordon Brown isn't the lapdog that Blair used to be, get over it.
Personally I do not give it shit if you call a bannana split. It is the reasons you are doing it that now shows GB as appeasing the Muslim community
It's not appeasement FFS.
adam1503
Member
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"Granting concessions to potential enemies"

We are not at war with Islam, just the extremists who claim to fight in the name if Islam.  If anything, this will frustrate them (the terrorists), even moe, rather than appease them.

Now quit your Muslim-bashing bs.

Last edited by adam1503 (2008-01-20 06:07:19)

ShowMeTheMonkey
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I don't get how one woman calling it "Anti-Islamic Terror" means that the whole of the UK is appeasing terrorists.

Political appeasement is when Chamberlain "gave" Cezhslovakia to Hitler.

In many respects I can fully understand calling it that, it's an attempt to make many Muslims feel that what extremeist Islam is against their own religion as it breaks many of their beliefs and morals.

Though as for appeasement, do you really think that Al-Q actually LIKE being called "Anti-Islamic"? Why on earth would they like a title that denounces the very cause they fight for?

Appeasement my ass.
lowing
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adam1503 wrote:

"Granting concessions to potential enemies"

We are not at war with Islam, just the extremists who claim to fight in the name if Islam.  If anything, this will frustrate them (the terrorists), even moe, rather than appease them.

Now quit your Muslim-bashing bs.
Ummm "potential enemies". Moderate Muslims have already shown what they are capable ofcartoonswhen they get stirred up or get their feelings hurt.
lowing
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:


The yanks are just pissed off that we decided to discontinue a phrase that they coined.  We're showing a lack of 'appeasement' to the US if anything.  Sorry guys but Gordon Brown isn't the lapdog that Blair used to be, get over it.
Personally I do not give it shit if you call a bannana split. It is the reasons you are doing it that now shows GB as appeasing the Muslim community
It's not appeasement FFS.
Then what the hell do you call it when a country is going to re-phrase a war with radical Islam. To make it sound like they are not at war with radical Islam for no other reason than to keep potential radical muslims happy? It is appeasement no matter you want to try an slice it.
adam1503
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lowing wrote:

Ummm "potential enemies". Moderate Muslims have already shown what they are capable ofcartoonswhen they get stirred up or get their feelings hurt.
Mainstream Islam is no enemy of the west.
adam1503
Member
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lowing wrote:

Then what the hell do you call it when a country is going to re-phrase a war with radical Islam. To make it sound like they are not at war with radical Islam for no other reason than to keep potential radical muslims happy? It is appeasement no matter you want to try an slice it.
That is complete bollocks.  How does making it sound like we are not at war with radical Islam appease radical Islam?  Youre argument is falling apart...
ShowMeTheMonkey
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Acording to "lowing" it is.

How the hell is renaming a little phrase going to appease terrorists!


"Praise Allah! The infidels have called us "Anti-Islamic" I'll just lay down my gun and buy a McBurger"

Last edited by ShowMeTheMonkey (2008-01-20 06:19:58)

lowing
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ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:

I don't get how one woman calling it "Anti-Islamic Terror" means that the whole of the UK is appeasing terrorists.

Political appeasement is when Chamberlain "gave" Cezhslovakia to Hitler.

In many respects I can fully understand calling it that, it's an attempt to make many Muslims feel that what extremeist Islam is against their own religion as it breaks many of their beliefs and morals.

Though as for appeasement, do you really think that Al-Q actually LIKE being called "Anti-Islamic"? Why on earth would they like a title that denounces the very cause they fight for?

Appeasement my ass.
they didn't do this to piss off Bin Laden, they did this to keep from pissing off other Muslims, and we all know what can happen when you piss off a member of this peaceful religion don't we? So they appeased them
lowing
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adam1503 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ummm "potential enemies". Moderate Muslims have already shown what they are capable ofcartoonswhen they get stirred up or get their feelings hurt.
Mainstream Islam is no enemy of the west.
Islam goes against all things westerners take for granted in our society. If a Muslim adopts western culture, then they are not practicing Islam Sorry buddy.
adam1503
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lowing wrote:

they didn't do this to piss off Bin Laden, they did this to keep from pissing off other Muslims, and we all know what can happen when you piss off a member of this peaceful religion don't we? So they appeased them
Thats not what you said above ^^^ Read my post.

lowing wrote:

Islam goes against all things westerners take for granted in our society. If a Muslim adopts western culture, then they are not practicing Islam Sorry buddy.
Islam is not inherently hostile towards western culture.  The two can coexist peacefully.

Last edited by adam1503 (2008-01-20 06:21:52)

lowing
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.
I agree GB is using PC to appease the Muslim community from getting mad. I wonder why they would be afraid of that? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
ShowMeTheMonkey
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As I said it may be an attempt to alienate the extremeist community!

You're completely ignoring that fact, and even if you do call this "appeasement" what is so very deeply wrong with it?


By saying mainstream Islam is at war with the West then you show how really ignorant of Islam you really are.

Last edited by ShowMeTheMonkey (2008-01-20 06:23:34)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Serge, I know you hate it, but GB did this to appease the Muslim community.
The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.
I agree GB is using PC to appease the Muslim community from getting mad. I wonder why they would be afraid of that? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe because they think it's more intelligent to turn the moderate Muslims against the extremists than to generalize about all Muslims as terrorists.
lowing
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ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:

Acording to "lowing" it is.

How the hell is renaming a little phrase going to appease terrorists!


"Praise Allah! The infidels have called us "Anti-Islamic" I'll just lay down my gun and buy a McBurger"
They are not out to appease terrorists. They are appeasing the Muslim community to hopefully make sure they do not turn radical on them.
lowing
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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

The UK did not appease anyone, they just change a couple of fcking words.  That is PC not appeasement, again man.
I agree GB is using PC to appease the Muslim community from getting mad. I wonder why they would be afraid of that? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe because they think it's more intelligent to turn the moderate Muslims against the extremists than to generalize about all Muslims as terrorists.
Who said all Muslims were terrorists Serge? I defy you to show me.
adam1503
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lowing wrote:

Then what the hell do you call it when a country is going to re-phrase a war with radical Islam. To make it sound like they are not at war with radical Islam for no other reason than to keep potential radical muslims happy? It is appeasement no matter you want to try an slice it.

lowing wrote:

they didn't do this to piss off Bin Laden, they did this to keep from pissing off other Muslims, and we all know what can happen when you piss off a member of this peaceful religion don't we? So they appeased them
First you argued that this is intended to keep radical Muslims happy, then you suggest that it is to keep mainstream Muslims happy.  Im giving you the chance to clarify your argument:  which is it?  Or are you just struggling to string together a coherent argument?

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