I think I've built all of my computers on a carpet floor on top of a bed comforter, lmao. I'll usually be wearing socks.
Never killed anything that way.
Never killed anything that way.
I mean, as long as I constantly ground myself, I should be ok?
the computer components are usually in a static protection bag when in the case so use those for having the parts on the table, also just get a piece of cardboard to stand on (like a piece of the case box or something)
always discharge first (a random iron piece or the case itself)
and last but not least don't listen to all the morrons saying nothing will happen, if i bought a system for a $1000 or even less i would not try and take my changes just because other people say it never happened to them, i might be small odds that it happens but it's not worth to waste your computer over it)
always discharge first (a random iron piece or the case itself)
and last but not least don't listen to all the morrons saying nothing will happen, if i bought a system for a $1000 or even less i would not try and take my changes just because other people say it never happened to them, i might be small odds that it happens but it's not worth to waste your computer over it)
Static electricity damaging computer parts is a myth. Don't worry about it. All you have to do is ground yourself (touch a piece of metal) before working on the computer. Carpeting or no carpeting, you'll be fine. There was a discussion about this on the AMD forums and the conclusive answer was posted as:
The ESD is a legend.
Even ar 20KV, the current is usually too low (uA) to do any real damage.
I've live-tested this theory vs a large number of MBs and Video cards and nothing died form ESD.
20K * 10uA = 0.2mW. Insignificant. Insufficeint to damage anything.
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ground your self via metal.
So everytime before reaching in side the computer just touch apart of the medal case first
So everytime before reaching in side the computer just touch apart of the medal case first
Ground yourself and build it on top of a table.
If you're really paranoid, use a wristband though I've never done any harm without it though.
Though if you're building a high end system you may as well do all that you can just incase.
If you're really paranoid, use a wristband though I've never done any harm without it though.
Though if you're building a high end system you may as well do all that you can just incase.
Agreed. That's what I do.Volatile wrote:
Make sure your PSU is plugged in but not turned on, so the case is grounded. Constantly make contact with the bare metal of the interior of the case.
edit: Oh, and use common sense, like not assembling your pc on your carpet.
If not, RMA the parts you friend and say it was their fault. I'm totally serious too.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Heh, I -really- wouldn't trust a random forum post to disprove decades of the entire industry saying otherwise.SpIk3y wrote:
Static electricity damaging computer parts is a myth. Don't worry about it. All you have to do is ground yourself (touch a piece of metal) before working on the computer. Carpeting or no carpeting, you'll be fine. There was a discussion about this on the AMD forums and the conclusive answer was posted as:
The ESD is a legend.
Even ar 20KV, the current is usually too low (uA) to do any real damage.
I've live-tested this theory vs a large number of MBs and Video cards and nothing died form ESD.
20K * 10uA = 0.2mW. Insignificant. Insufficeint to damage anything.
I've built all 3 of my computers on the carpet wearing socks.Volatile wrote:
Make sure your PSU is plugged in but not turned on, so the case is grounded. Constantly make contact with the bare metal of the interior of the case.
edit: Oh, and use common sense, like not assembling your pc on your carpet.
Just make sure you're touching the metal part of the case
I have never had any problems with static discharge. All you need to do is touch a grounded metal object (like a pc case that has a power cord plugged in) before touching any sensitive hw.
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Touch the frame and keep one hand on it at all times.
Could latex gloves work??
I didnt use any thing for mine just keep it on a soild wood table and didnt rub my feet on the carpit.
I didnt use any thing for mine just keep it on a soild wood table and didnt rub my feet on the carpit.
Don't stress it, just touch something that's made of metal before touching your components.
You don't normally go zap all the time anyway.
Just don't build it on a wool carpet or something and you're good
You don't normally go zap all the time anyway.
Just don't build it on a wool carpet or something and you're good
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unpainted metal? where can you find one of those?Lucien wrote:
avoid things that are obviously static, touch some unpainted metal, and you're done.
in your pc case?.Sup wrote:
unpainted metal? where can you find one of those?Lucien wrote:
avoid things that are obviously static, touch some unpainted metal, and you're done.
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Never heard about SDC before this post, tbh.ThaReaper wrote:
I assemble my pc on my carpet without a wrist band. As a matter of fact I don't even touch anything before putting in the components, and guess what! I haven't ever fried anything.
Last time I built up my PC I had lots of electrical items on within 3 foot radius of my computer, plug out the psu, socks on, carpet, everything. I'm on the East Coast of Scotland, though, and it's pretty wet.
Show me the proof from the 'industry' stating otherwise.mikkel wrote:
Heh, I -really- wouldn't trust a random forum post to disprove decades of the entire industry saying otherwise.SpIk3y wrote:
Static electricity damaging computer parts is a myth. Don't worry about it. All you have to do is ground yourself (touch a piece of metal) before working on the computer. Carpeting or no carpeting, you'll be fine. There was a discussion about this on the AMD forums and the conclusive answer was posted as:
The ESD is a legend.
Even ar 20KV, the current is usually too low (uA) to do any real damage.
I've live-tested this theory vs a large number of MBs and Video cards and nothing died form ESD.
20K * 10uA = 0.2mW. Insignificant. Insufficeint to damage anything.
I usually just wear a pair of latex gloves when I work on my system
Well, you can check the manual for your motherboard if you have it. All the IBM servers and all the Cisco switches I get come with antistatic wristbands, and pretty much all computer parts come in antistatic bags, typically with ESD warnings written on them. I don't think they like wasting money for no reason.BlackKoala wrote:
Show me the proof from the 'industry' stating otherwise.mikkel wrote:
Heh, I -really- wouldn't trust a random forum post to disprove decades of the entire industry saying otherwise.SpIk3y wrote:
Static electricity damaging computer parts is a myth. Don't worry about it. All you have to do is ground yourself (touch a piece of metal) before working on the computer. Carpeting or no carpeting, you'll be fine. There was a discussion about this on the AMD forums and the conclusive answer was posted as:
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I worked in the electronic component industry for a good amount of time. The proof is in the countless regulations and certifications any manufacturer, reseller, or distributor must obtain to inspect, handle, and ship parts. Do you (BlackKoala) know what the ISO certification is in regards to component handling? The threat of static discharge is real, it is just unlikely unless certain conditions are present.mikkel wrote:
Well, you can check the manual for your motherboard if you have it. All the IBM servers and all the Cisco switches I get come with antistatic wristbands, and pretty much all computer parts come in antistatic bags, typically with ESD warnings written on them. I don't think they like wasting money for no reason.BlackKoala wrote:
Show me the proof from the 'industry' stating otherwise.mikkel wrote:
Heh, I -really- wouldn't trust a random forum post to disprove decades of the entire industry saying otherwise.
As mikkel said, if there wasn't a real threat, companies would not waste millions of dollars implementing and maintaining these standards.
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I wasn't saying he was wrong, merely asking for the proof he said there was as to why there was an actual risk. I was looking for numbers and data, as I'm throughly interested, and not some assumption that he threw at me.
I know this is kind of Off-topic....
But try touching your radiator (Big cast-iron thing that heats rooms by running hot water through it) and the glass of a CRT at the same time,,,
But try touching your radiator (Big cast-iron thing that heats rooms by running hot water through it) and the glass of a CRT at the same time,,,
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
I've built countless computers without an anti-static band, and I've never killed anything. Just don't wear fuzzy socks and a fuzzy sweatshirt while working on a fuzzy carpet in dry dry dry winter and discharge any static by touching the metal of the computer case, and you'll be fine.
yesaimless wrote:
I mean, as long as I constantly ground myself, I should be ok?
http://www.esda.org/s2020.htmlBlackKoala wrote:
I wasn't saying he was wrong, merely asking for the proof he said there was as to why there was an actual risk. I was looking for numbers and data, as I'm throughly interested, and not some assumption that he threw at me.
http://www.narte.org/h/aboutnarte.asp#programs
Can't be fucked to go and find the actual qualifications and testing certs, but you can if you want.
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