nukchebi0
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Can someone help me with integrating 24t/(2t+3)?

Karma for help.
Mitch
16 more years
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umm




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umm...



Completelyuselessmath is completely useless.

Yeah.
15 more years! 15 more years!
CommieChipmunk
Member
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Mitch wrote:

umm




umm



...

umm...



Completelyuselessmath is completely useless.

Yeah.
umm, integrals aren't really useless tbh... but we're just getting into the basics at the moment..
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6526|South Florida

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Mitch wrote:

umm




umm



...

umm...



Completelyuselessmath is completely useless.

Yeah.
umm, integrals aren't really useless tbh... but we're just getting into the basics at the moment..
Dude.
Give me an example of how 24t/(2t+3) is usefull in real life.

Basic basic algebra is, of coarse. But what the fuck is 24t? 24 time t? divided by whatever 2t+3 is?
That doesnt even come to a fucking answer either lol, this is why i never understood this shit.
How in the fucking world are you supposed to know what a variable is if you have no bases to back it up on to learn what the variable stands for!
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cowami
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I haven't started integrals yet.

Thankfully, I hope.
https://i.imgur.com/PfIpcdn.gif
Flaming_Maniac
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Move along.

Sorry, not enough math experience to help you out.
Superslim
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ok

Solving for t

6(2t-3log(2t+3)+3+c

there you go
Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
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Superslim wrote:

ok

Solving for t

6(2t-3log(2t+3)+3+c

there you go
Actually it's:

-18ln(2t+3)-12t

Edit: +c

Last edited by Ganko_06 (2008-01-07 22:04:15)

Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|6692|Calgary

Ganko_06 wrote:

Superslim wrote:

ok

Solving for t

6(2t-3log(2t+3)+3+c

there you go
Actually it's:

-18ln(2t+3)-12t

Edit: +c
Same difference, I just like using Log instead of In

log[t] is the same as ln[t].

You can use the logarithm of t to the base 10 as log[10,t]


Its late but I think thats right   
Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
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Superslim wrote:

Ganko_06 wrote:

Superslim wrote:

ok

Solving for t

6(2t-3log(2t+3)+3+c

there you go
Actually it's:

-18ln(2t+3)-12t

Edit: +c
Same difference, I just like using Log instead of In

log[t] is the same as ln[t].

You can use the logarithm of t to the base 10 as log[10,t]


Its late but I think thats right   
Lol.  Log and natural log are completely different.

Ex. log(10)=1
      ln(10)=2.302585092994.....
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6324|New Haven, CT
Thanks for the help. Could you possibly show the steps?

For the logarithmic functions, log base 10 is the same as ln.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-07 22:20:51)

Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
+167|6645|Camoran's Paradise

nukchebi0 wrote:

Thanks for the help. Could you possibly show the steps?
You do it by integration by parts.  I'm too lazy to do it step by step via typing.  Sorry.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6324|New Haven, CT
Could I find the steps on Wikipedia?
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|6692|Calgary

nukchebi0 wrote:

Could I find the steps on Wikipedia?
Try this:


http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.cal … index.html

or this

http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.cal … y_parts.3/

Last edited by Superslim (2008-01-07 22:30:07)

mcminty
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Mitch wrote:

Dude.
Give me an example of how 24t/(2t+3) is usefull in real life.

Basic basic algebra is, of coarse. But what the fuck is 24t? 24 time t? divided by whatever 2t+3 is?
That doesnt even come to a fucking answer either lol, this is why i never understood this shit.
How in the fucking world are you supposed to know what a variable is if you have no bases to back it up on to learn what the variable stands for!
I'll be studying Civil Engineering this year. This sort of maths will be rather important... (ie. ever used any sort of structure, road, whatever? its been graced by a civil engineer and this maths).
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6324|New Haven, CT

Superslim wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Could I find the steps on Wikipedia?
Try this:


http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.cal … index.html

or this

http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.cal … y_parts.3/
Wow, that went over my head. I'll wait until we learn it to do it.

This was for practice AP problems, half of which seem to entail stuff we haven't learned yet.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-07 22:33:23)

Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|6692|Calgary

Mitch wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Mitch wrote:

umm




umm



...

umm...



Completelyuselessmath is completely useless.

Yeah.
umm, integrals aren't really useless tbh... but we're just getting into the basics at the moment..
Dude.
Give me an example of how 24t/(2t+3) is usefull in real life.

Basic basic algebra is, of coarse. But what the fuck is 24t? 24 time t? divided by whatever 2t+3 is?
That doesnt even come to a fucking answer either lol, this is why i never understood this shit.
How in the fucking world are you supposed to know what a variable is if you have no bases to back it up on to learn what the variable stands for!
Here is your example: Hope this helps Mitch.


http://www.gomath.com/Questions/questio … stion=8506
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|6692|Calgary

Ganko_06 wrote:

Superslim wrote:

Ganko_06 wrote:


Actually it's:

-18ln(2t+3)-12t

Edit: +c
Same difference, I just like using Log instead of In

log[t] is the same as ln[t].

You can use the logarithm of t to the base 10 as log[10,t]


Its late but I think thats right   
Lol.  Log and natural log are completely different.

Ex. log(10)=1
      ln(10)=2.302585092994.....
WRONG:  For the logarithmic functions, log base 10 is the same as ln. So don't lol me.........lol
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6324|New Haven, CT

Superslim wrote:

Mitch wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

umm, integrals aren't really useless tbh... but we're just getting into the basics at the moment..
Dude.
Give me an example of how 24t/(2t+3) is usefull in real life.

Basic basic algebra is, of coarse. But what the fuck is 24t? 24 time t? divided by whatever 2t+3 is?
That doesnt even come to a fucking answer either lol, this is why i never understood this shit.
How in the fucking world are you supposed to know what a variable is if you have no bases to back it up on to learn what the variable stands for!
Here is your example: Hope this helps Mitch.


http://www.gomath.com/Questions/questio … stion=8506
Wow, just, wow. You found the source problem. Remind me to karma you tomorrow.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-07 22:58:42)

Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
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Superslim wrote:

Ganko_06 wrote:

Superslim wrote:


Same difference, I just like using Log instead of In

log[t] is the same as ln[t].

You can use the logarithm of t to the base 10 as log[10,t]


Its late but I think thats right   
Lol.  Log and natural log are completely different.

Ex. log(10)=1
      ln(10)=2.302585092994.....
WRONG:  For the logarithmic functions, log base 10 is the same as ln. So don't lol me.........lol
For integration and differentials, you can't swap out log and natural log.  They are different entities.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6131|North Tonawanda, NY

Superslim wrote:

WRONG:  For the logarithmic functions, log base 10 is the same as ln. So don't lol me.........lol
Where did you learn that?  Log base 10 and Log base e (which is the natural log, or ln) are two different things.
[AD] Ignetos
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24t (2t + 3) =

48t squared + 72t
Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
+167|6645|Camoran's Paradise

SenorToenails wrote:

Superslim wrote:

WRONG:  For the logarithmic functions, log base 10 is the same as ln. So don't lol me.........lol
Where did you learn that?  Log base 10 and Log base e (which is the natural log, or ln) are two different things.
That's what I meant.  Log and Ln are completely different.  I thought I was going crazy for a second.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6131|North Tonawanda, NY

Ganko_06 wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Superslim wrote:

WRONG:  For the logarithmic functions, log base 10 is the same as ln. So don't lol me.........lol
Where did you learn that?  Log base 10 and Log base e (which is the natural log, or ln) are two different things.
That's what I meant.  Log and Ln are completely different.  I thought I was going crazy for a second.
You are correct.  That superslim fellow is confused.

Last edited by SenorToenails (2008-01-07 23:44:48)

nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6324|New Haven, CT
I learned that Log base 10 and ln were the same thing, too.

I guess I was wrong.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-07 23:46:19)

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