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the ROE doesnt state that at all???

Legit_Xero wrote:

are you ever going to anwser everyones questions about the high points servers? or just keep ignoring them?

This guy has a good point.Could you please address this issue Mr. IndianScout.Does this mean maps with like (16-20) players with a 64 player size map?I just want to be clear on what a server can just kick you for or what will get your stats reset.Posting the ROE on the official BF2 website would also be a good idea.Your response would be much appreciated.

Last edited by YoBabysDaddy (2006-02-11 01:15:18)

i would imagine the original roe we agreed to when 1st installing bf2 had an allowance for ea or its partners to alter the roe as it sees fit

IndianScout wrote:

High Point Servers..

definition

64 Player maps setup with 16 players, which limit weapons or vehicles kick people who take flags, for the sole purpose of running points up very high to gain unlocks, badges and rank ..

those are against the ROE

if you run the server normal on a 64 player map with 16 or more players and do not limit class or weapons, then there is no problem..

these are fine..

thank you for clearing that up indian, i was worried for a second that i couldnt play in my favorite server anymore, but they play the game normally on the big maps with few people so i guess its ok then (yay!).

IndianScout wrote:

High Point Servers..

definition

64 Player maps setup with 16 players, which limit weapons or vehicles kick people who take flags, for the sole purpose of running points up very high to gain unlocks, badges and rank ..

those are against the ROE

if you run the server normal on a 64 player map with 16 or more players and do not limit class or weapons, then there is no problem..

these are fine..

thumbs up from me there, I love going on 16/20 player servers with 64 mapsize.. they run better and the quality of game is much better.
I agree also about the "64 Player maps setup with 16 players, which limit weapons or vehicles kick people who take flags, for the sole purpose of running points up very high to gain unlocks, badges and rank .."

But how would you tell the 2 apart? just look for 'knives only' or something, or wait for them to get reported....
Im all for it as long as the innocent 20player servers with 64 mapsize dont suffer.

"Do commanders no longer have the ability to ride in flying craft?  From time to time, I've been known to get a sky-high command position from the gunner's seat, or riding in a transport chopper (unless of course the team has even a semi decent aircraft crew).  The mile high view gives me a good look at an enemy tank column that needed defeating, thus enabling me to spot and direct my assets into a better counter strike position.  I'd never fly the aircraft myself, but if my pilot is doing his thing (piloting) and I'm commanding and using tv missles inbetween my arty strikes and supply drops, does this qualify as kick/bannable?"

Still wondering this.

KJ

Oops, I played on a no Armour server once. It was quite fun. I only played on it a couple of times though. I thought it was wrong...

I seek forgiveness.

Orion5413 wrote:

so just to make sure I understand then it is ok to play a server that has a large map 64 but allows on 16 - 20 players as long as there is no kicking and etc or certain kit type thing? So it safe to play then? So as long as its a normal game right?

Yes... Picture yourself going into a 64-player server and there just isn't more than 30 people in there - Of course you won't be reset because other people won't play on the server...

The entire RoE deals with grey-areas and exploitable areas - as long as you play the game as it is intended, and with a maximum amount of fun for all parties involved you won't need to think about the RoE...

IndianScout wrote:

the commander ruling came about due to community feedback, about commanders using vehicles and aircraft, 

I know this tends to be a contradiction of the ROE about limiting class or vehicles and I really dont want to put in an inclusion for the commander ruling..

so what I think I will do is alter the commander ruling to this...

please let me know what you think...

original

§Commander flying or in a vehicle instead of commanding

new

§Commander flying instead of commanding

would this be more agreeable for you players??

we all hate commanders who spend the whole match flying around and not doing their job

so please let me know what you think...

IMO - I don't think there is anything wrong with the intitial rule.. If you are going to command - get out of the vehicle (if no-one wants/needs it, it will still be there when you have done your thing)
If you are going to use a vehicle - resign as commander (if no one wants to command, it will be there when you have done your thing...)

Why do people get into a stationary MG when commanding? because there might be a chance a MEC would sneak up on the US un-cap at Kirkland for example? i believe most people do it because they need time in it to get a badge...


BTW - nice re-wording of the BH rule Indian

Edit: commander isn't a class or a vehicle - it's a role (difference from others is that he will determine the outcome of the battle if everyone works together and listens (and he commands 100%))

Last edited by Friluftshund (2006-02-11 10:49:54)

DSRTurtle wrote:

Indian, what extent would a "private ranked server" rule of no entering uncappable bases unless your spec ops have on their status?  After all as a spec ops player you only have 5 C4 packs.  You need 10 to blow everything up.  I love having a support guy going in with me to resupply me.  There is no such thing as too much ammo.  And then as long as you can stay alive you can keep blowing up there assests. 

From the other side of the coin, I play engineer alot.  I love active spec ops players.  I get tons of repairs points and a few kills.  When I play engineer for the purpose of gaurding/repairing commander's toys I tell him not to waste supply drops on them.  It takes away from my points and from the team in combat who needs those supplies more than I do.  If spec ops player has a support guy with him, it makes for a good chess match on the side.  I have to kill 2 people or 3 if there's a medic with them as well.

I'm curious about this one...

What server has a rule stating you can't enter Enemy un-cap base? It's what you do when you'r there that is restricted.. If it is interpreted as I view it - you can have a whole platoon of supports with you to take out commander-tools, as long as that is all you'r doing..

I'm more curious about to what extent you can return fire in self defence.. Could you rule on that Indian? If I move to take out commander-tools, and is fired upon - can I return fire?
My initial thoughts are no, you cannot - but It would be pleasant to see an official ruling..

This makes me hate EA more and more.

Friluftshund wrote:

I'm curious about this one...

What server has a rule stating you can't enter Enemy un-cap base? It's what you do when you'r there that is restricted.. If it is interpreted as I view it - you can have a whole platoon of supports with you to take out commander-tools, as long as that is all you'r doing..

I'm more curious about to what extent you can return fire in self defence.. Could you rule on that Indian? If I move to take out commander-tools, and is fired upon - can I return fire?
My initial thoughts are no, you cannot - but It would be pleasant to see an official ruling..

There are several private ranked servers that have a rule that says "You can't enter an uncappable base unless your spec ops going after commander assets."  I can understand the rule in the context of spawn camping and killing people as soon as they spawn.  However, if your a support guy supporting the spec ops guy in your squad, that rule could violate the RoE in the sense of someone not being allowed to get points for helping their teammate. 

Personally I hate spawn campers who kill people as soon as they spawn.  That makes the game no fun for people.  However, if I'm legitimately helping a spec ops guy blow up assets then I should be able to resupply him and cover him from people trying to kill him as he goes about his job of blowing things up.

I realize that this might be considered splitting hairs by some.  However a good team like that would do their best not to make their presence known until the C4 goes boom.