BF2S Forums How can so many people switch to Macs?

Bertster7 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

macs are stylish and the new panther OS is just amazing. and you can play Chessmaster on it!!!

Panther is their old OS.

10.3 = Panther
10.4 = Tiger
10.5 = Leopard (buggier than Vista)

Moo? Si! wrote:

I have nothing but praises for Macs, I bought a Macbook for my wife and had my PC all to myself ever since!

-]Eucalyptus[- wrote:

The number of viruses that attack Macs are much less, so much that I don't have to buy those gay anti-virus wares that I have to buy for my PC.

xBlackPantherx wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

This is not a bash on the Mac system per se. To be honest, I'd love to get a Macbook Pro.

But thing is, they are so god damned expensive for NO reason other than brand name and stylish cases. Have you seen the basic config Mac Pro? Other than the dual CPUs (two dual-cores), the rest is quite shoddy. A 7300GT? AMAZING! I realize Macs haven't ever been about gaming but come on, who the fuck charges $2500 for a system like that? Apple does.

I'm more than willing to go back to Mac. But first Apple has to lower their prices. A lot. Right now, the might as well just call themselves Appleware because they're just like Alienware - decent PCs that are way overpriced. Only Alienwares pack way more wallop than a Mac.

Mine performs GREATLY when it comes to gaming. I don't even own a PC but I do own Windows on a partition on my iMac. It runs better than an actual PC. Contrary to some people, who don't know shit about what is coming out of their mouth (jaymz), they perform very nicely for almost anything you would want to do with it. As for price, I'd suggest the newer, lowered-of-price iMacs, that come with a very decent HD capacity (1 terabyte), can add a pretty damn decent video card with it, and a pretty hefty sized monitor for around the same price as you could find a PC desktop with the same specs and a 24-inch monitor.

come on, who the fuck charges $2500 for a system like that? Apple does.

Yes, they do charge $2500 for a freeking 8-core, 3.0 GHz, 3-terabyte HD, super drive, and graphic capabilities to make, create and edit Pixar movies. For what you'd want, its more like $1000-$1500.

EXAMPLE:

iMac Dektop - $1300 (<--- I Added a Gig of RAM to it)
Specifications
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    * 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 1x1GB
    * 250GB Serial ATA Drive
    * SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    * Apple Mighty Mouse
    * Apple Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
    * Accessory kit
    * 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
    * 20-inch glossy widescreen LCD
    * AirPort Extreme
    * Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR

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Dell Desktop with Similar Specs - "Starting Price        $1,999"

Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium.
Hybrid Analog/Digital TV Tuner with Remote Control
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
Internal Bluetooth 2.0 Included
8-in-1 Media Reader Included
Internal PCI 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless network card included
Integrated Audio - 2.0 Speakers
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 Video Card
320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
8X Slot load CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW)
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1
Internet Access Offers from AOL, Earthlink and Netzero

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EDIT:

Nappy wrote:

just dont be a nub and you wont get viruses, simple as that

Obviously you are an immature idiot because you can get a virus simply from being connected to the internet in any way, shape or form. So yes, unless you NEVER are connected to the internet, you wont get a virus. So, you, being connected to the internet, on these forums, have just a good a chance of (if not greater) of getting a virus as anyone. Idiot.

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EDIT EDIT: I'm not bashing on PC's, I'm simply calling out all the idiots (not you Hurricane) who don't know shit about what they are talking about and just want to get into Bill Gates' pants so they become PC fan boys with illegitimate reasons why "PC's are better than Macs". No offense of course.

apple wrote:

Select your MacBook Pro.
Leopard
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    * 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1440 x 900 resolution
    * 2GB memory
    * 120GB hard drive1
    * 8x double-layer SuperDrive
    * NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 128MB SDRAM

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    * 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1440 x 900 resolution
    * 2GB memory
    * 160GB hard drive1
    * 8x double-layer SuperDrive
    * NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM

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    * 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1680 x 1050 pixels
    * 2GB memory
    * 160GB hard drive1
    * 8x double-layer SuperDrive
    * NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM

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Last edited by Jello.01 (2007-12-19 23:28:04)

xBlackPantherx wrote:

Contrary to some people, who don't know shit about what is coming out of their mouth (jaymz), they perform very nicely for almost anything you would want to do with it. As for price, I'd suggest the newer, lowered-of-price iMacs, that come with a very decent HD capacity (1 terabyte), can add a pretty damn decent video card with it, and a pretty hefty sized monitor for around the same price as you could find a PC desktop with the same specs and a 24-inch monitor.

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heggs wrote:

Your argument is flawed Omega.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

LOL...anyone that hasn't had to deal with the Mac in a domain environment should just STFU.  You have no clue about what you speak.  The Mac OS is absolute garbage and always has been.  I have been doing tech support for nearly 20 years.  Every time Mac does an update they make my life hell.  Programs that no longer run or run properly.  Drivers that no longer work, or work properly.  A GUI that can't provide me with nearly the information I need to help diagnose/troubleshoot the system...and the list goes on.

You trendy wannabes can say what you want.  Those of us that have to deal with this crap outside of college dorms in a corporate environment don't call these things Mac N' Trash for nothing.

And as for not needing an AV program.  It goes something like this, "Security through obscurity"

rdx-fx wrote:

kylef wrote:

Answering your question, I recommend you take a read at The myth of the overpriced mac.

Steven Jobs once said that "We can’t ship junk. There are thresholds we can’t cross because of who we are. The difference is, we don’t offer stripped-down, lousy products." Also, reliability is a big pro. PC Magazine once did an article that stated "Look no further than Apple, the leader of the pack, whose overall score holds steady at 9.1. Last year, Apple’s score on units needing repair was an impressive 11 percent — well below that of any other company in the survey. But according to readers, the company has managed to cut repair rates even further over the past 12 months. This year, Apple’s score on units needing repair drops to 8 percent. Among first-year systems, it’s only 5 percent. That’s nothing less than astonishing."

Think about software solutions too. iWorks is what.. $50? And it can read office files and so on. Microsoft Office? In excess of $150.

That would be a good excuse, if it were remotely true.

Take apart an Apple system:
It's the same commodity components as every other PC manufacturer out there.
With the move to an intel architecture, they're even more of a $500 PC with a $2000 badge on it.

Commodity chinese electrolytic capacitors (rather than more precise, more reliable Japanese solid state caps)
[Fake Titanium cases (Just coated aluminum, that was too thin anyways)
Cheap plastic cases.
Failure to actually test their new iMac (monitor color scheme problems are epidemic)
Failure to treat massive manufacturing problems properly - instead blaming their customer ( Defective displays on last generation laptops)
Failure to even remotely keep up with PC hardware specs (7300 as top-of-the-line video?  are you insane?)

In summary,
Apple = Over hyped consumerist bling, made from the same marginal components as anyone else, using hardware that's a generation or two behind the times, packaged in a stylish case, and pushed by one of the best salesmen of the era (Jobs).

OS-X is the same: unix core, beautiful GUI.  Typical Apple - brilliant graphic design, brilliant core architecture, brilliant documentation .. hamstrung by too many sops to consumerist bling, and too many bloat features because St. Jobs thought it'd be insanely great to add just one more thing.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-12-20 10:55:00)

kylef wrote:

Answering your question, I recommend you take a read at The myth of the overpriced mac.

Steven Jobs once said that "We can’t ship junk. There are thresholds we can’t cross because of who we are. The difference is, we don’t offer stripped-down, lousy products." Also, reliability is a big pro. PC Magazine once did an article that stated "Look no further than Apple, the leader of the pack, whose overall score holds steady at 9.1. Last year, Apple’s score on units needing repair was an impressive 11 percent — well below that of any other company in the survey. But according to readers, the company has managed to cut repair rates even further over the past 12 months. This year, Apple’s score on units needing repair drops to 8 percent. Among first-year systems, it’s only 5 percent. That’s nothing less than astonishing."

Think about software solutions too. iWorks is what.. $50? And it can read office files and so on. Microsoft Office? In excess of $150.

Last edited by FloppY_ (2007-12-20 14:08:25)