SplinterStrike
Roamer
+250|6693|Eskimo land. AKA Canada.
This might sound random, but do you think you could get some footage of her getting hit?

Yes, I know it's bad, but it's all the proof you'd need to jail the man.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7039|Argentina

ig wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


That's why we left last week.  After all if she doesn't realize her husband is an asshole, it's not our fault.
Basically, thats all you can do.  We called the cops on our neighbors several times, but she would never press charges, and the police can do nothing if the victim says it didnt happen.
i thought the cops had to take someone to jail if there was any sign of abuse, even if the other didn't want to press charges.
They need permission to enter the house, and if she denies it there's no point.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6729|Chicago, IL

ig wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


That's why we left last week.  After all if she doesn't realize her husband is an asshole, it's not our fault.
Basically, thats all you can do.  We called the cops on our neighbors several times, but she would never press charges, and the police can do nothing if the victim says it didnt happen.
i thought the cops had to take someone to jail if there was any sign of abuse, even if the other didn't want to press charges.
apparently not, thats what I used to think, but it seems to happen a lot on Cops too that the wife won't press charges, and the guy gets to go right back to being an ass.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7039|Argentina

SplinterStrike wrote:

This might sound random, but do you think you could get some footage of her getting hit?

Yes, I know it's bad, but it's all the proof you'd need to jail the man.
We know the guy beats her because she told one of my friend's wife.  I don't think we can get real proof without breaking the law ourselves.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6824|Texas - Bigger than France

sergeriver wrote:

If she wised up she would leave the asshole.
Recommend a phychologist or something then - she'll leave quickly after the first session.

I do some work with the local women's shelter.  Maybe talking with them about your friend without naming her might open another avenue you haven't thought of.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7039|Argentina

Pug wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

If she wised up she would leave the asshole.
Recommend a phychologist or something then - she'll leave quickly after the first session.

I do some work with the local women's shelter.  Maybe talking with them about your friend without naming her might open another avenue you haven't thought of.
She's not even a friend of mine, she just knows my friend's wife.  That's the problem.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6967|United States of America
I'm leaning more towards the police side of the issue. In this country, if you call in that you heard someone screaming like you described, they would probably respond and I know they don't need permission to enter the house in certain cases, like an emergency, which may or may not be the case. Still, if you call the popo, nobody involved will know it was you. Hell, you could even go down to the police station and talk to someone there about it and find out what is the best course of action.

I'm going to repeat that last line:

You could even go down to the police station and talk to someone there about it and find out what is the best course of action.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7039|Argentina

DesertFox- wrote:

I'm leaning more towards the police side of the issue. In this country, if you call in that you heard someone screaming like you described, they would probably respond and I know they don't need permission to enter the house in certain cases, like an emergency, which may or may not be the case. Still, if you call the popo, nobody involved will know it was you. Hell, you could even go down to the police station and talk to someone there about it and find out what is the best course of action.

I'm going to repeat that last line:

You could even go down to the police station and talk to someone there about it and find out what is the best course of action.
Maybe I will leave things to the police.  And if she doesn't want help, then it's her problem and there's nothing you can do for her.
TC.Troy
Let the rough side drag
+111|6855

Dragonclaw wrote:

If shes too fucking retarded to take help when its offered then you cant do anything about it. Stupid bitches like that need to wake up and smell the shit and do something about it.
Statistics show, he may very well kill her anyway.  Situations like this always escalate, never the other way...
Domestic issues are the worst.
No matter what happens, you cant carry the blame for trying to help her, against some sick fuck that should be blown out of his socks...
You are there, can see the situation, act if you think need be.  Until then, get the law involved...ASAP.
"cause I'm tellin' ya...he will eventually kill her, or maybe even somebody else too...

sad sad situation these are...
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6572|Éire
What about a serious beating for the guy, like take one of his fingers or something? It's easy enough to recover from bruises but with a missing finger he'll have a little reminder every time he raises his hand to hit her.

Again I reckon keep it anonymous, don't tell the guy who you are or why you're doing it. Don't say anything at all to the guy.
ddenholm67
DanForth Teh Pwnzer
+53|6838|Scotland
It sounds like your going to have to gamble with phoning the police. He may get angered more by the police coming round, resulting in her getting even more beatings. I think the least you could do is phone the police, even though you may feel that it might make things worse, at least you have done your part.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6505|Escea

Send him to a boxing match as a surprise then throw him into the ring with Ricky Hatton or Lennox Lewis or someone.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6750

sergeriver wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

One question: how good are you with a sniper rifle?
BF2 70% accuracy, real life dunno.
70%, damn if I was that good then I wouldn't find sniping to be so boring.
ReTox
Member
+100|6781|State of RETOXification
Stand on the side walk with a video camera, maybe find one of those parabolic microphones for evidence, and make a picket sign reading:

"The man in this house beats his wife"

Let him call the cops on you, that would be perfect!

And forget considering embarrassment for her, I'm sure there are a enough people around that know what is going on and just need someone to step up and overcome the bystander apathy.  Maybe the guy will come out to cause trouble and the block can take him down the back alley for an advanced course in "asshole fix it".

Seriously, anyone who beats his wife is a piece of shit and deserves what comes to them.
Strngs012
Could I have 10,000 marbles please
+40|6700|Florida

Braddock wrote:

What about a serious beating for the guy, like take one of his fingers or something? It's easy enough to recover from bruises but with a missing finger he'll have a little reminder every time he raises his hand to hit her.

Again I reckon keep it anonymous, don't tell the guy who you are or why you're doing it. Don't say anything at all to the guy.
My thoughts exactly. You and your friends wear masks or something, just tell him you know about him beating his old lady. Tell him if he continues to beat her you and your friends will beat him ten times harder. Yeah and cut off a finger or a toe just for laughs. You could say that was for the guys at Bf2s...lol!
David.P
Banned
+649|6556
If you want to kill him and not make it look suspicious i suggest alcohol poisoning.

If you just want to teach him a lesson, Get him drunk and take compromising pictures.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6926
dont be a captain save-a-hoe
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|6845|British Columbia, Canada
Just call the cops, its better for you to just let them deal with it and not get involved yourself..
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7039|Argentina
Ok, guys, thanks for the advice.  We decided to let the cops do their job, that if the lady accepts the help.  We won't beat the guy because we don't want to go to jail.  So, my friend will go tomorrow to the cops and we'll see what happens.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6800|USA

sergeriver wrote:

Ok, guys, thanks for the advice.  We decided to let the cops do their job, that if the lady accepts the help.  We won't beat the guy because we don't want to go to jail.  So, my friend will go tomorrow to the cops and we'll see what happens.
keep us posted?

i think you made the right decision, but urban justice might be the answer if he gets out of hand.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6780|Texas
It depends on whether you think she's one of those dumbasses who will just go back to him or another wife-beater or an otherwise normal person in a terrible situation from which she sees no escape.

If you think she wants help but is afraid to ask because of what she thinks he'll do to her if she does, light his ass up.

If that's the judgment you make, you need to get two buddies and beat the royal fuck out of the prick. Tell him you're going to watch them, and that every single time he hits her you're going to break one of his bones. He'll bow up and try to be Mr. Bigdick and probably smack her around, and when it happens you need to fuck him in the ass with a baseball bat. Every single time he goes back to hit her your punishment of him needs to be progressively more violent.

I had an employee whose ex-husband was beating the shit out of her, and when we first stood up to him he beat her even worse for talking. After that we drug him out and basically destroyed him physically and made it clear that we were going to continue the same way if he ever touched her again. He finally gave up and disappeared. His mother picks up and drops off the kids when they go from one house to the other. He knows if he fucks with her again, even though she isn't my employee anymore, we'll burn down his fucking house and beat him senseless. Violence is the only thing those people understand.
T.Pike
99 Problems . . .
+187|6564|Pennsyltucky

rdx-fx wrote:

Serge,

Do NOT get yourself personally involved in a domestic dispute.
No matter how messed up things are, as soon as a 3rd party steps in between a husband and wife - that 3rd party is the asshole.
They will both turn on you like rabid dogs on a fuzzy little bunny.

Anonymous tip to the cops, fine.
^^^ he speaketh the truth.

OP, you seem like a reasonable and caring person, just remember - no good deed goes unpunished.

You're best off minding your own business.

When someone keeps going back to the abuser you have to cut them loose.  After many years I had to give up on a friend.  If she doesn't care about herself enough to get out of the situation why should I GAF what happens to her?

Once a guy hits a woman it'll never stop.  They know that, the smart ones get out after the first time.



I'll resist the urge to ask "What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?"

Last edited by T.Pike (2007-12-15 23:39:53)

Dersmikner
Member
+147|6780|Texas
It's true that 90% of the time you are the asshole in those situations, but the 10% of the people who desperately need your help are worth putting up with the 90% who turn on you.

Two weeks ago on my way to Houston I was stopped and a man was choking a woman. I yelled at him and he let her go. He started towards me and I got the tire iron out of my trunk. He got in his vehicle and drove away. I could have stayed out of it, and she probably would have taken an ass-whipping. She might have gotten one later, but not on my watch.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7046|Dallas

sergeriver wrote:

I know this lady from the club.  She is married to an asshole who always beats her.  He's been caught several times driving under influence, and he's a bad father.  The guy is a piece of shit.  I offered this lady to help her if she wanted, but she always refused the help.  Her home is a mess, but she managed to rise her three children ok.  Last week me and two friends were by her neighborhood, and we heard the woman screaming.  The guy obviously was beating her.  We knocked at her door, she opened it.  We asked her if she needed any help, and she said she didn't.  We left.  What would you do in this situation?  Would you help anyone that doesn't want your help?  Would your help be appreciated?  Could your help worsen things even more?
Leave her alone.  You wouldn't like it very much if you were trying to beat your wife and some peepsqueak kept stickin his nose in your business.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6800|USA

Dersmikner wrote:

It's true that 90% of the time you are the asshole in those situations, but the 10% of the people who desperately need your help are worth putting up with the 90% who turn on you.

Two weeks ago on my way to Houston I was stopped and a man was choking a woman. I yelled at him and he let her go. He started towards me and I got the tire iron out of my trunk. He got in his vehicle and drove away. I could have stayed out of it, and she probably would have taken an ass-whipping. She might have gotten one later, but not on my watch.
suprised you didn't just blow him away...being a Texan and all...

Cougar wrote:

Leave her alone.  You wouldn't like it very much if you were trying to beat your wife and some peepsqueak kept stickin his nose in your business.
"wouldn't like it"?!  prreettty sure the wife doesn't "like" getting beat, and isn't she the one we are worried about?

what if it was a case of sexually abused kids?  those parents wouldn't like anyone in their business either, but i don't give a shit what the parents "like".  i am concerned about the best interest of the kids, or in this case, the wife.

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