BF2S Forums Why are there planewhores???

B.Schuss wrote:

On Wake, if ypur pilots cannot take care of the enemy jets, you have got no chance at all to get off the carrier, let alone actually cap a flag.

Simple tactic for americans on rape island:  A squadleader gets in the jet, he hauls ass to the airfield flag, jumps out, rest of squad spawns and helps cap the flag.  Just play as a team from there and you can't lose.....

But of course, who wants to jump out of a jet to help out the team, right?  Ground fighting is for losers, right?

In my opinion, jets add nothing to the game.  I would welcome their elimination.

Why are there jet whores? Because you can pulverize everyone else without being placed in harms way yourself.

Most jet pilots I've seen would rather stay safe in their jet and see their team's tickets trickle away because all the bases have been lost, than get down on the ground and help cap them back.

Cbass wrote:

u know y people hate jet whores.. because u go around dropping bombs and flying away like pussies for an entire round and u think that takes skill. it bugs the hell out of me trying to have a good ground war and boom im dead and i didn't even see it coming and theres nothing i can do to stop it. fuckin jet whores.

You are making me want to go find an f-15...

Torin wrote:

Cbass wrote:

Torin wrote:

How do you  know how much skill it has? Have you even tried to fly a jet and use it successfully? Or are you just another ground pounding whiner who doesn't have what it takes?

Check my stats..mainly airial service ribbon and air combat badge. i got both within 2 days of installing this game! i was a frickin newb and got air awards, yea thats skill alright. then i realized jet whoring is a cheap way to get points so i quit. try operating a tank and dodge c4/carbomb/apc/mines/other tanks/and still watch out for jet whores. that is skill bro.

ROFL.

So you got the Aerial Service Ribbon and Basic Aviator Badge and somehow flying a plane well takes no skill?

Hell, I got every stupid service ribbon and basic vehicle badge and was picking my butt 75% of the time. None of them take any skill.

However, having some stupid basic ribbons and badges is no indicator that you are good in a plane. You got 19 kill IAR? Woopee. Try getting 75. Yes, any retard can get the basic aviator stuff, try going well beyond the expectations of the expert badges and see what you get.

Just because it also takes skill to stay alive in a tank amonst all that nonsense, doesn't mean it doesn't take skill to be equally as good in a plane.

You got some stupid retard noob ribbon and badge and suddenly you think you know what it takes to be a good aviator? Ya, keep dreaming.

P.S. No wonder you quit flying, with 9 hours in a plane and only 300 kills and a K/D of less than 2, I'd quit too.

I have 9 hours in a jet because im not a pussy pilot. id rather be down and dirty capping/Defending CP's for my team. jets are the "dominating force" in this game. pilots have nothing to worry about because they drop bombs from 10,000ft and fly away, nothing can take them out besides hoping the pilot gets something in his eye and crashes into a mountain.  and give me a break 75 kills iar? did u get that in your little jet flying over the battlefield just looking for free kills? i have 68 kills iar in a fucking tank...on the ground...u know.....where the real fight is.

ps i never said i was a good aviator i said any noob can do it. i played this game for an hour and could already drop bombs with decent enough accuracy. i kinda realized it's a jew bastard way of raking in points so i decided to take up tank whoring.

and yea it does take more skill in armor. im sure there is some skill to pilots...i know i had to practice a couple minutes.

i can't wait for the new patch to fix AA lock. then all u jet whores got another thing coming. like my foot in your ass.

Last edited by Cbass (2006-02-07 12:44:47)

uh oh looks like a kicked the bee hive on this one.   lol

Cbass wrote:

I have 9 hours in a jet because im not a pussy pilot. id rather be down and dirty capping/Defending CP's for my team. jets are the "dominating force" in this game. pilots have nothing to worry about because they drop bombs from 10,000ft and fly away, nothing can take them out besides hoping the pilot gets something in his eye and crashes into a mountain.  and give me a break 75 kills iar? did u get that in your little jet flying over the battlefield just looking for free kills? i have 68 kills iar in a fucking tank...on the ground...u know.....where the real fight is.

ps i never said i was a good aviator i said any noob can do it. i played this game for an hour and could already drop bombs with decent enough accuracy. i kinda realized it's a jew bastard way of raking in points so i decided to take up tank whoring.

and yea it does take more skill in armor. im sure there is some skill to pilots...i know i had to practice a couple minutes.

i can't wait for the new patch to fix AA lock. then all u jet whores got another thing coming. like my foot in your ass.

You are good evidence of my point. But, just because you'd rather be "down and dirty capping CPs", does not mean flying a jet proficiently does not take skill.

Pilots have nothing to worry about? You mean, AA and other pilots don't count? Is that why bad pilots are downed 20 seconds after taking off, because they have nothing to worry about? If you're "dropping bombs from 10,000ft and flying away" and I'm on your ass, you have more to worry about than some infantry on the other side of a fence as an Abrams. Give me a break, you have no idea what it takes to be a successful pilot.

I've done 75 kills IAR in a plane, a heli, a tank. All of them take skill. How is strafing a runway in a jet, taking out 1 or 2 guys waiting on a bomber any more of "free kills" than rolling up on a spawn point in an Abrams, and taking them out just as quick?

The real fight is on the ground? Yeah, you'd think so, until you're on the receiving end of a superior air force, bombing your stupid tank into rubble. And when you're crying on global chat about planes being overpowered and you can't get 5 ft. from your spawn point, you tell me the real fight is on the ground. Hell, the fight can't even happen on the ground if the fight hasn't already been won in the air. Your fight on the ground is a luxury of having superior air power, otherwise you'd just keep getting bombed just trying to leave your CP.

Bombing people is a jew bastard's way of raking in points, but tank whoring is a sign of skill? You're a class act buddy.

Pfft, if you knew anything about being skilled in a plane, you'd know the change to the AA lock isn't going to do a damn thing to pilots. Oh, I'm gonna have to roll right a half second earlier than I normally would, or drop flares a half second than I did before. Give me a break, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Get some good pilots on your team. Jets have it easy when nothing opposes them. Put some friendly jets on those enemy jets, and life isn't quite so easy. If I'm spending minutes at a time dog fighting another jet, I'm surely not bombing people's tanks.

Your defense against jets is friendly jets. If your team has no good pilots, then you lose. That's why it's a team game, because it takes more than some ground troops to win.

It's the equivalent of rolling around in a tank with no one on the other team spawning as AT or using their armor. Yes, life would be easy if that were always the case, but like flying around in a jet, life is only as easy as teh other team makes it.

Yes, AA is a joke, but friendly air power is not.

P.S. Turning and rolling might work against some complete noob pilot, but doesn't work against the more experienced ones. Hell, I consider myself pretty damn good at pulling evasive manuevers, but I spent 5 minutes straight the other day trying to shake a J-10 off my F-35B with no success. Eventually I had to bail out because I couldn't shake him. But if I was against some noob pilot, sure I could dive, roll and do a loop and they'd be nowhere in sight. I think you might be generalizing things a bit much when it comes to piloting.

Last edited by Torin (2006-02-07 13:22:13)

Torin wrote:

Your defense against jets is friendly jets.

This is the best statement I have seen on this forum, nothing else is more true.  I know this is a game, but in real life AA is pretty weak against a good plane and a good pilot.  I won't even mention anything with stealth.

DUFFKING wrote:

If I could fly a plane well, I would planewhore to my heart's content. Hence, I can't fly well, and don't bother trying.

I'm right there with ya... for the most part I ignore planes and helicopters... now if they happen to just be sitting there, I'll usually go take it - drop a few bombs - fly around in circles for a few minutes - then crash cause I tried something stupid... then go back to being the infantry guy I'm really meant to be.

Yes, more to deal with on the ground, but I'd argue it's safer in an Abrams against any number of spec ops and enemy armor, than it is flying around in a jet with a good pilot on the other team.

Just as a C4 dude can come around the corner and blow you up, I can drop in behind an enemy plane, tear into them with the machine guns for a second and release a missile into their tail-pipe before they have any idea what is going on.

Like I said, you're as safe as the enemy team lets you be.

But, one thing that I will give you, is there are a lot fewer competent pilots than there are competent ground pounders, so in that respect, it is safer in the air, especially for an experienced pilot.

yes they do doc most pilots don't give a crap only about their score. i see every day pilots bombing friendly CP's to kill a tank/apc and yea defend the flag but also take out a few teammates with it who could of very easily taken it out.

Dr.Battlefield,

Agreed to most extents. However, there are exceptions. I for instance play only on 1 server, along with many other regulars. We've all gotten to know each other, so expecting the good pilots to do what a pilot should be doing, instead of point whoring is not completely unreasonable. I for instance will do my duty of strictly bombing enemy armor on maps like Oman, to let my team take control of the CPs. I know full well I could be hitting the carrier for some easy strings of 5 kills a piece, but I'm not interested in the team win. Mostly all the good, regular pilots are the same, and will work for the win instead of the personal victory.

I can honestly say I've never played a truly pub game before, but I can imagine point whoring is more common in such instances. Thank goodness for a regular server with good regular players that play to win, not just for personal accomplishment.

Every planewhore is different, all you can do is hope they're willing to do their job in the process of owning it up.