BF2S Forums who was hit in thte EA cull?

The one good thing that came out of getting wiped personally was now that im free of wanting points and medals/badges, i can do whatever the hell i want to, including telling indiantscout to go scalp himself and stamp him with my 2 massive bola balls. It also lets me journey on to all the bad ass mods coming out in the near future, which a major % will be moving to one anyways (mods actually listen to their fanbase, and fix what EA wont/cant) . So fuck the points, fuck EA, fuck the cock'yay'ass smurfs, and fuck BF2...

Here i come mods...

Last edited by [BSF]Nexar (2006-02-06 07:17:27)

[BSF]Nexar wrote:

elite wrote:

yeah i saw him ALOT rapair padding with nastie_butler and nexar, some other bsf players also.

haha, cause repair points bring in so much points and satisfaction to the game. Fucking moron.

You obviously miss the point then. It isn't that it brings in "so much points and satisfaction", it's that it breaks the rules. Rules are rules, and I'm glad EA enforces them harshly. There is no leeway.. you don't stat pad "just a little" and get away with it. There is no difference between padding for 25 repair points or padding for 8,000 knife kills, it's all padding.

Torin wrote:

RedHot wrote:

Well said, i'm really dissapointed with EA and this is the first of their games I have ever played... won't buy another. They need some real gamers working there as opposed to the idiots running EA atm.

You're disappointed that EA wipes the stats of people who abuse the system and break the rules? You want some "real gamers", aka people who condone cheating/exploiting/stat padding working there, as opposed to people who would actually enforce the rules? What a tool.

I'm dissapointed that they are so quick to wipe stats, they set unrealistic goals for certain badges such as War College ribbon, or gettin 25 heals iar for expert first aid (i still cant get this one....) and when people find ways to get the badges they wipe their stats and make them look like criminals. I agree that SOME people down right cheat and need to be punished, but EA seems quick to act on those that might be only trying to get a badge that seems near impossible. On top of this i also disagree with some of their changes as they patch, they seem to cater to the crybabies in forums (you being one??) that scream HAX at anyone who kills them with a gl.... when they were holding a pistol. I think we can all agree BF2 is NOT a realistic game... if you want realism go play AA or join the marines for gods sake.... its a game. They dont all need to be realistic to be fun, did everyone cry when super mario could jump 30 feet in the air and smash a goomba??? no... so why cry about bf2 being un-realistic? It was EA's choice to make BF2 an arcade style FPS, not a true to life war game, if thats not your cup of coffee play something else, quit crying, and let them patch to fix the actual problems. Just my 2 cents....

RedHot wrote:

I'm dissapointed that they are so quick to wipe stats, they set unrealistic goals for certain badges such as War College ribbon, or gettin 25 heals iar for expert first aid (i still cant get this one....) and when people find ways to get the badges they wipe their stats and make them look like criminals. I agree that SOME people down right cheat and need to be punished, but EA seems quick to act on those that might be only trying to get a badge that seems near impossible. On top of this i also disagree with some of their changes as they patch, they seem to cater to the crybabies in forums (you being one??) that scream HAX at anyone who kills them with a gl.... when they were holding a pistol. I think we can all agree BF2 is NOT a realistic game... if you want realism go play AA or join the marines for gods sake.... its a game. They dont all need to be realistic to be fun, did everyone cry when super mario could jump 30 feet in the air and smash a goomba??? no... so why cry about bf2 being un-realistic? It was EA's choice to make BF2 an arcade style FPS, not a true to life war game, if thats not your cup of coffee play something else, quit crying, and let them patch to fix the actual problems. Just my 2 cents....

I think you're also missing the point.

EA did not wipe the stats of 400 some players on a whim. EA investigated each and every claim, looked at people's victim lists, looked at people with suspicious amount of repair points in a given period of time, looked at people with extraordinarily high kill streaks/best round scores, etc. After months of investigation, a list was compiled and sent to EA to have stats wiped. This was not EA "quick to act",  this was done after an extensive investigation. These people broke the rules and were punished. That's all there is to it.

Yes, some of the badges and ribbons have what may seem to most to be unrealistic or impossible goals, the First Aid and Repair badges for example. However, no matter how difficult a badge or ribbon may be to achieve, that does not give anyone permission to break the rules to achieve it. If you cannot meet the goal of a particular badge or ribbon through purely legit gameplay, then you don't deserve to have it. If you break the rules to attain badges, you are just as susceptable to having your stats wiped as someone who exploited the commander bug to get 200,000 points in a handful of rounds.

As to what they decided to change in the patch, well, that's up to them. I personally like the GL changes, not because I disliked being killed by it (I use the GL too, everytime I am Assault), but because it is a completely skill-less weapon in the hands of someone using it at point-blank range. It will still be used skillfully for medium and long range attacks, but no longer it is a tool for skill-less lamers to get cheap kills in CQC.

Yes, BF2 is not realistic, but that is no reason to leave the game unbalanced. The GL in it's current form is unbalanced at extremely close ranges.

EA did not wipe the stats of 400 some players on a whim. EA investigated each and every claim, looked at people's victim lists, looked at people with suspicious amount of repair points in a given period of time, looked at people with extraordinarily high kill streaks/best round scores, etc. After months of investigation, a list was compiled and sent to EA to have stats wiped. This was not EA "quick to act",  this was done after an extensive investigation. These people broke the rules and were punished. That's all there is to it.

Yes, some of the badges and ribbons have what may seem to most to be unrealistic or impossible goals, the First Aid and Repair badges for example. However, no matter how difficult a badge or ribbon may be to achieve, that does not give anyone permission to break the rules to achieve it. If you cannot meet the goal of a particular badge or ribbon through purely legit gameplay, then you don't deserve to have it. If you break the rules to attain badges, you are just as susceptable to having your stats wiped as someone who exploited the commander bug to get 200,000 points in a handful of rounds.

As to what they decided to change in the patch, well, that's up to them. I personally like the GL changes, not because I disliked being killed by it (I use the GL too, everytime I am Assault), but because it is a completely skill-less weapon in the hands of someone using it at point-blank range. It will still be used skillfully for medium and long range attacks, but no longer it is a tool for skill-less lamers to get cheap kills in CQC.

Yes, BF2 is not realistic, but that is no reason to leave the game unbalanced. The GL in it's current form is unbalanced at extremely close ranges.

I'm not going to argue with you, seeing as how your on a mission to defend EA.... but while your at it tell them to take some time to make ALL the badges/ribbons/medals obtainable (maybe tough.... but possible) Doing this would no doubt make stat padding much more easy to define. I really hope you work there, to be defending a group of people that obviously lack common sense.

Stay off the juice, kids.

I find all of the "OMG, BURN ALL PADDERS AT THE STAKE" comments to be a little odd, given that EA hasen't deigned to explain exactly what the violated EULA terms are.

Maybe that's just me.

my two cents:
most badges are easy to get, flipside to that coin is, you want the veterans and expert badges too. i think this game isn't ment for being played less than eight months. i also don't think EA expected that kind of run on the badges and the ribbons. take your time, be patient

RedHot wrote:

Untrue.... I like to get all my badges legit, but having all the requirements for expert first aid for about the last 200 hrs played and unable to obtain it i have considered finding a way to get this badge as it seems unobtainable. I'm sure many people are in the same position as me, they just CANT get the badge and thus think about or just plain go for it and stat pad. BUT if the badge was obtainable.... then those who still stat pad and avoid doing any work for their badges are those that should be truly punished no??? This would avoid have otherwise legit gamers, stepping into the wrong to get something they deserve. If you really cant understand this you must be a fucking moron.... im sick you repeating yourself "EA's choice blah blah blah" You make some good points, but really you need to admit that EA has SOME flaws, and things could be fixed to reduce padding, or make it easier to identify those that are really out to cheat from the start and leave those that will work for badges out of it, no?

I get you.

All that aside, stat padding, for whatever reason, even to get a badge you feel you deserve is wrong. It breaks the rules, and punishment is the reward.

I personally cannot fathom how I will ever get the 25 repair points IAR needed for Expert Engineer, but when I meet the pre-reqs, I'll try to make it happen. One day I may be in a position to get it, maybe on a map where I'm commanding, and the assets are being constantly destroyed by a squad hiding nearby. However, I will not stat pad for any of those 25 points, because that defeats the purpose.

Yes, some of these badges are insane, but the only people who deserve them, are the people who get them legit. Even if you've had all the other pre-reqs for a year or more and have 500,000 global points, if you can't muster the requirements, you don't deserve it, no matter what you think. However, this thread is not about difficult badges to obtain, it's about stat padding.

There is no excuse, if you stat pad, you get what you deserve.

Yes, EA fudged the requirements for a few badges, however, that is no excuse to exploit the system to get them.

RedHot wrote:

Masques wrote:

I find all of the "OMG, BURN ALL PADDERS AT THE STAKE" comments to be a little odd, given that EA hasen't deigned to explain exactly what the violated EULA terms are.

Maybe that's just me.

IndianScout posted the terms in another thread, can't find it now though srry.

Unfortunately they are extremely vague so they wont enlighten anyone very much.

Hey RedHot, wern't we in the Gulfwar together? Didn't we ask you to stand up so you'd attrack enemyfire so we'd know where they are shooting from?
BF2 is not an arcadestylegame. I do wonder what you think are the actual problems of BF2.
I'm with Tin_whisker on this 1. I have the silver knifebadge and it is one of the most rewarding badges I got.
No need to statpad...

DuVeL wrote:

Hey RedHot, wern't we in the Gulfwar together? Didn't we ask you to stand up so you'd attrack enemyfire so we'd know where they are shooting from?
BF2 is not an arcadestylegame. I do wonder what you think are the actual problems of BF2.
I'm with Tin_whisker on this 1. I have the silver knifebadge and it is one of the most rewarding badges I got.
No need to statpad...

Lol yes BF2 is an arcade style game, and by saying this i mean it lacks realism in order to make the game funner... a chopper cannot take a tank shell in real life, an m95 would rip a man in half in one shot... etc etc etc, but because these things are not true in the game there is more balance, so whats your malfunction? I dont really know what your trying to prove with the silver (silver = veteren might i add) badge you have... considering I just stated i get ALL mine legit and i have 7-8 gold ones, to put in a stack with my medals. Maybe next time come out with a real point.. instead of rambling something about the gulf war, idiot.

don't quote me plz