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You're probably thinking of the German Me-262, which was the first jet fighter, however, it has absolutely no connection to the J-10.

pictures please

Ruckel wrote:

the germans invented some jetplanes late in the war, pretty useless because it couldnt bee in the air so long but it was the fastest tough, arounf 1000km/h if i remember correct.

the messerschmit you mean?

Doperwt. wrote:

Ruckel wrote:

the germans invented some jetplanes late in the war, pretty useless because it couldnt bee in the air so long but it was the fastest tough, arounf 1000km/h if i remember correct.

the messerschmit you mean?

Until you bombed the crap out of its extra-long runways, yes.

AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATIONS


Full Name:    Messerschmitt Me 262
Variants:    Me 262A-1a Schwalbe, Me 262A-2 Sturmvogel, Me 262B-1a
Type:    (A-1a) single-seat fighter; (A-2a) single-seat bomber; (B-1a) two-seat night fighter
Country of Origin:    Germany
Manufacturer:    Messerschmitt AG
First Flight:    (262V1 on Jumo 210 piston engine) 4 April 1941; (262V3 on two Jumo 004A-0 turbojets) 18 July 1942; (Me262A-1a) 7 June 1944
Engine(s):    Two 1,980 lb (900 kg) thrust Junkers Jumo 004B single-shaft axial turbojets
Wingspan:    40 ft 11.5 in (12.5 m)
Length:    34 ft 9.5 in (10.6 m); (262B-1a, excluding radar aerials) 38 ft 9 in (11.8 m)
Height:    12 ft 7 in (3.8 m)
Weights:    Empty: (A-1a, A-2a) 8,820 lb (4,000 kg); (B-1a) 9,700 lb (4,400 kg); Maximum loaded: (A-1a, A-2a) 15,500 lb (7,045 kg); (B-1a) 14,110 lb (6,400 kg)
Maximum Speed:    (A-1a) 540 mph (870 km/h); (A-2a, laden) 470 mph (755 km/h); (B-1a) 497 mph (800 km/h)
Initial Climb:    (All) about 3,940 ft (1,200 m) / min
Service Ceiling:    37,565 ft (11,500 m)
Range:    (On internal fuel, at altitude) about 650 miles (1,050 km)
Armament:    (A-1a) four 30 mm MK 108 cannon in nose, two with 100 rounds each, two with 80; (A-1a/U1) two 30 mm MK 103, two MK 108 and two 20 mm MG 151/20; (A-1b) as A-1a plus 24 spin-stabilised R4/M 50 mm rockets; (B-1a) as A-1a; (B-2a) as A-1a plus two inclined MK 108 behind cockpit in Schrage Musik installation; (D) SG 500 Jagdfaust with 12 rifled mortar barrels inclined in nose; (E) 50 mm MK 114 gun or 48 R4/M rockets; bomb load of two 1,100 lb (500 kg) bombs carried by A-2a

I'd have to say that the P-38 lightning may have had that "J-10" effect on the other aircraft in theater.  Yeah, the Zero was quick in turning, but lacked climb rate, and the ME-262 just didn't have the ability to stay aloft for long periods of time due to it's fuel consumption.  The P-38 however, had a good loitering factor, manuverability, massive armament, and supercharged twin engines to get it out of most situations  with ease.

Some may say that the P-51 mustang was right there as well, but the mustang wasn't a pure dominance aircraft considering all of the ME-109's and FW-190's that it went against.

Gillenator wrote:

You also had the ME 363 with a top speed of 950 Km/h, but that was more of a flying rocket with wings.

Whatever you're smoking, can I have some, please?

This is the ME363:


It's a huge flying wing glider-plane.


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What would've been dominant is the Horton HO IX



Series Designation: Horton Ho IX (Gotha Go 229)
Classification Type: Flying Wing Jet Bomber
Contractor: Sonderkommando 9 / Gothaer Waggonfabrik - Germany
Country of Origin: Nazi Germany
Initial Year of Service: 1945
Crew / Accommodations: 1
Production Totals: 2

Available Hardpoints: 2

Available Armament/ Munitions:
4 x 30mm Cannons

The Horton Ho 229 IX (Gotha Go 229) flying wing featured an external bomb load of 4,410lbs (2,000kg). Mission specific armament may have included:

24 x Rockets
2 x 30mm underwing cannon pod
2 x 30mm underwing cannon pod

Powerplant: 2 x Junkers Jumo 109-004C turbojet engines delivering 2,205lbs (1,000kg) of thrust.
Max Speed: 621 mph (1,000 km/h)
Max Range: 680 miles (1,094 km)
Service Ceiling: 52,500 ft (16,002 m)
Rate of Climb: Not Available

Wing Span: 55.1 ft (16.8 m)
Length: 24.6 ft (7.5 m)
Height: 9.2 ft (2.8 m)
Empty Weight: Not Available
Max Take-Off Weight: 18,739 lbs (8,500 kg)

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Now that would've dominated everything if Germany had another 2 years.

Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2007-07-31 06:37:34)

J-10 might be good ingame, but In real life it certainly isn't

They will come for you, imagine all of these on Wake.



I would have said Mustang.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-07-31 06:43:33)

The Zero was effectively the dominant fighter until the Hellfire (something like that) came. The Zero was so effective because it was light, much faster than anything the Allies had, and it was extremely maneuverable, with a tight turning radius. It sucked if you wanted to go vertical.

Spitfire tbh

Last edited by syndicat111 (2007-07-31 09:01:11)

History Channel has one of my favorite shows DogFights. It's cool stuff if you are into fighter planes.

http://www.history.com/minisites/dogfights/


UPDATE: you can email them your dogfight stories!!! "Have a famous dogfight you'd like to see? Please email us at [email protected]"  I can't wait to tell them I was flying an F-18 over the Dariq Oilfields and saw a squad of J-10's and took em head on W00T!


For the US P-51 FTW

Last edited by loubot (2007-07-31 10:48:13)