BF2S Forums You know what, if you don't like gays, keep it to yourself.

Word, I have a relative thats gay, so I really don't say anything about gays, even though I don't think it's right.

Last edited by Runs_with_sciss0rs (2007-07-20 22:01:26)

You know what, if you don't have a problem with gays, keep it to yourself. Gayness is shoved down our throats at every turn in the media. Honestly, everybody's sick and tired of the 'here, queer, get used to it' spiel.

M.O.A.B wrote:

Personally I got no probs with gays, just as long as they  try and come onto me.

lolz

Ha, i have nothing against gays, honestly, i dont
it's the bi people that piss me off sometimes, its like be swing one was or the other, i dont care which way you choose, just pick one way

I know I may have just pissed off a lot of people by saying that but hey, oh well...*anti flame shield*

It's their god damned agenda,  I try to drag 'em behind my truck, and they're like no, I dont wanna.  and I'm like hey, dont force your choices on me.

democrats are the same way.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2007-07-20 22:33:22)

Stingray24 wrote:

SealXo wrote:

It is there personal choice...

Correct

SealXo wrote:

If god created all people, and gave each person a god given path, then they are following there path. So shut the fuck up.

Incorrect.  We've assumed God created all people and each person has a God-given path.  That path would not directly contradict His commandments in the sacred text He communicated. 

Human beings make choices regarding their sexuality.  We have the freedom to make those choices, however there is no freedom from criticism.  Just because someone disagees with a person's sexual preference doesn't lay any blame on the disagreeing person for the suicide of another.  We've all been teased at school.  Was it nice?  No.  Was it a reason to blow ourselves away?  No.  Fast forward to adulthood and the rules are still the same.  We make choices and people will most certainly disagree with one choice or another.  We can man up and accept and/or deflect criticism and go on with life.  Or we can act like little people on the playground and point disapprovingly at the person that we allowed to make us feel bad and give them power over influencing our choices.  If in fact the gay community is as sensitive as you've portrayed them, they need to grow up in my opinion.

Hi Stingray. I don't agree with your first statement. I'd have to say our sexuality isn't always a choice. Romans talks about the potter making the pot, meaning God shapes us to his will. Hebrews talks about God handing over reprobate minds to the apostates into more vile adultery, so God does influence man's sexuality, as well as other sinful tendencies. I wouldn't however call a homosexual an apostate. Apostasy is a whole other issue...

What we do have freedom is giving into our nature, which is exceedingly wicked. Some manifest sinful natures more than other, but it comes down to listening or sinning against our conscience when we know something is wrong. I guess unless you have a family member who is gay and wants to change but can't, you really can't relate can you?

Anyways, I'd just like to say a little something that I know a lot of you non-Christian members have seen Christians handle homosexuality. It is a sin, and God does consider it an abomination, but God also considers pride an abomination, and who isn't proud? You don't go to hell for being a homosexual, you go to hell for sinning, and all have sinned, but lying with the same sex is just one way of sinning in the many, many ways you can. All liars, thieves, adulterers, and blasphemers will take their part in the lake of fire. Jesus said, "You've heard it age of old that thou shall not commit adultery, but I say to you, whoever looks at a women with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matt 5:28) Everyone's guilty of that so heterosexual Christians shouldn't elevate themselves over homosexuals. It hurts me how some churches ask homosexuals to leave, rather than to help that person spiritually. All sins can be forgiven (if you can repent of them) and homosexuals should be welcomed like all sinners. However, that person, if they want to become a Christian, needs to resist their sexuality and pray to God to change them.

But that's just my beliefs. If you don't believe that than simply disregard that.

And yes homosexuals have committed suicide by being rejected by a church, ultimately coming to the conclusion God can't save them. The church has failed these people, and it is sad.

Last edited by Phrozenbot (2007-07-21 01:33:25)

If your on about personal choice, freedom of expression and all that hippy shit, I think people should be allowed to question homosexuals. Not question them about wether its percieved to be wrong, but out of casual interest. I'm not saying there should be nasty and vindictive flames about individuals based on sexuality, race, political stance etc,  but if it falls within the course of conversation/debate, with a valid point, then surely that could be alright.  Unless they tear the ass out of it, hearing other peoples point of view from either side is good.  Just because someone loves the cock, doesn't mean that others should step on eggshells around them, just no need to be nasty to them. 
     I've got a mate who is gay, and if you pardon the expression, he is the butt of all jokes around here, but he takes it well.

I don't personally persecute people over sexuality, thats what gingers and idiots are for.

SealXo wrote:

Is if you don't like gays and preach all your religious shit to them, telling them they will burn in hell. Fuck you.
You shouldn't be talking about people like that. It is there personal choice, and if it makes them feel comfortable, then thats makes me happy that they are happy.

So what if my "personal choice" and what "makes me happy" is HATING gays? Can you "be happy that I'm happy" hating gays? Or is it "you shouldn't talk about people that way"?  You know what, if you like gays, keep it to yourself

You can't just force someone to change their views. I know and talk with a few gays and they are alright. But when they start doing protests, when they start shouting it in the streets, when they force their views onto you - that's when I am not happy with it.

Generally, I am not a fan of them. Infact, most of the time - I don't like them. In Quagmire's own words: "you can't make a whole without a hole" - but I don't force this upon gays. Like I've said to my friends who are gay, "it is your decision and if that is what you really want.." - I won't force my views on them unless they force their views on me.

Edit:

As for this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5120004.stm) - I think it is a load of nonsense. Infact, I find it really funny.

Last edited by leetkyle (2007-07-21 02:37:58)

...We should be glad - it keeps the population down...

-konfusion

leetkyle wrote:

You can't just force someone to change their views. I know and talk with a few gays and they are alright. But when they start doing protests, when they start shouting it in the streets, when they force their views onto you - that's when I am not happy with it.

Generally, I am not a fan of them. Infact, most of the time - I don't like them. In Quagmire's own words: "you can't make a whole without a hole" - but I don't force this upon gays. Like I've said to my friends who are gay, "it is your decision and if that is what you really want.." - I won't force my views on them unless they force their views on me.

Edit:

As for this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5120004.stm) - I think it is a load of nonsense. Infact, I find it really funny.

Its not a choice, you either dig girls or boys... or both. I cant remember ever thinking about what i wanted to be, gay or straight. Its just your nature, you re born that way imo. I like smart girls with big boobs, which is kind of rare and usually they already have a boyfriend.

Anyways i got a good friend that i met 4/5 years back when she was in a long term relationship with a guy. She told me she had a previous relationship with a girl at that time so i already knew she was bi. About a year ago she broke up with that guy cause the relationship wasnt working out. Last time i talked to her she told me she now has a relationship with a girl. Hey if she's happy, i m totally fine with it.

I ve had this guy on msn for years. He's just some guy i know from this local metal bar/stage and he's part of this group of friends. Recently a friend of mine told me he's gay. I never noticed anything about him or even thought about whether he likes boys or girls. It doesnt change a thing really. He's a great guy and i spent many hours drinking evil beers with him so to me its not a problem at all and nothing has changed.

Live and let live. Show respect to others and you ll get it back = everybody happy.

Edit: spelling error.

Last edited by Echo (2007-07-21 04:12:53)

I'm not too fussed with gays, I just hate the arm flailing ones you know.