BF2S Forums Al Gore: Idiot

GATOR591957 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Didn't he go to Iraq coz of WMDs?  Didn't Gore get 500,000 more votes than Bush?  Maybe I watched the wrong channel.

Apparently you forget that Al Gore was critical of the Bush administration for not taking more action against Iraq during the years we were enforcing the no fly zones and no cooperation from Hussein to verify what EVERYBODY thought Hussein was hiding. Everybody has an extremely short, close minded memory. Gore was actually pushing for war before 9/11. If he had become president we would have gone to war in Iraq as well...no difference!!.

He would have gotten the same intel from the same Iraqi foreign nationals and same CIA, the same photos and we would be there. Again, he CRITICIZED Bush in televised debates about the LACK of military action against Iraq over the stalemate that was going on between the UN and Iraq. Who cares about whether Bush or Gore won by whatever amount of votes....the same result was coming in regards to war. PERIOD!!!!!!!!! Gore was ready for war, pushed for it and 9/11 would have triggered him as well.......

It's interesting to see someone on these boards that can actually look into the future that might have been.  Tell me, Is my Merrill Lynch stock going to rebound?

Looks like you have to work on your memory first before I look into the future for you...LOL. If you don't remember what Gore was pushing for well before 9/11 than I can't help you. He was pushing for more direct action towards Iraq as did a lot of people in that time. Gore was tired of the year after year of resolutions and the inability to let investigators finish and verify what Hussein had or didn't have. Gore along with many Democrats AND Republicans were pushing for military action. Then...9/11 happens and virtually everyone, Republic and Democrat alike voted for war in Iraq. You can't blame one party or the other for the mess we are in.....they both have responsibility.

What I don't like is that people forget how much of a role the Democrats had in all this. They are as much responsible as the Republicans are. Neither have clean hands. But now Democrats are hitting a new level of low by trying to block military aide and support that our soldiers need so that they can win political points back home. If you think that is okay to do, put our soldiers at more risk than they already are..then again, you are a lost cause. We need to give our soldiers what they need to protect themselves and NO PARTY should use that to get a leg up on the other.

Without reading anything in this thread but the title....


I must concur.

ATG wrote:

He should be laughed out of society, but instead you still have people saying he should be president.
Amazing.

I agree, but so should Bush.  And remember, Gore did win the popular vote.

If it came down to Gore or Bush, Gore should have won.  I know it seems like Bush may have been better for his more defensive foreign policy, but ultimately, Bush's only real thing he credits himself with has done more harm than good for the country.  You can go on and on about Gore... but Bush is without a doubt one of the worst presidents in history.  Just read some of the quotes the man has said.  After listening to him for 5 minutes, I don't see how anyone could come to the conclusion Bush knows what the fuck hes talking about.

Theres plenty of hypocrisy to go around...

ATG wrote:

Gore and his guests at the weekend ceremony dined on Chilean sea bass - arguably one of the world's most threatened fish species.

What a moron. All his crying about the environment and now this.

He should be laughed out of society, but instead you still have people saying he should be president.
Amazing.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s … 31,00.html

You might find this particular page funny...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di … 89x1345312

Note the comment about the sea bass and the lack of responses to it.

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Apparently you forget that Al Gore was critical of the Bush administration for not taking more action against Iraq during the years we were enforcing the no fly zones and no cooperation from Hussein to verify what EVERYBODY thought Hussein was hiding. Everybody has an extremely short, close minded memory. Gore was actually pushing for war before 9/11. If he had become president we would have gone to war in Iraq as well...no difference!!.

He would have gotten the same intel from the same Iraqi foreign nationals and same CIA, the same photos and we would be there. Again, he CRITICIZED Bush in televised debates about the LACK of military action against Iraq over the stalemate that was going on between the UN and Iraq. Who cares about whether Bush or Gore won by whatever amount of votes....the same result was coming in regards to war. PERIOD!!!!!!!!! Gore was ready for war, pushed for it and 9/11 would have triggered him as well.......

It's interesting to see someone on these boards that can actually look into the future that might have been.  Tell me, Is my Merrill Lynch stock going to rebound?

Looks like you have to work on your memory first before I look into the future for you...LOL. If you don't remember what Gore was pushing for well before 9/11 than I can't help you. He was pushing for more direct action towards Iraq as did a lot of people in that time. Gore was tired of the year after year of resolutions and the inability to let investigators finish and verify what Hussein had or didn't have. Gore along with many Democrats AND Republicans were pushing for military action. Then...9/11 happens and virtually everyone, Republic and Democrat alike voted for war in Iraq. You can't blame one party or the other for the mess we are in.....they both have responsibility.

What I don't like is that people forget how much of a role the Democrats had in all this. They are as much responsible as the Republicans are. Neither have clean hands. But now Democrats are hitting a new level of low by trying to block military aide and support that our soldiers need so that they can win political points back home. If you think that is okay to do, put our soldiers at more risk than they already are..then again, you are a lost cause. We need to give our soldiers what they need to protect themselves and NO PARTY should use that to get a leg up on the other.

Oh I remember quite well.  What I find interesting is you seem to know what Gore would have done.  You ASSUME.  Big mistake, especially in politics.

For the record they are not trying to block military aide.  They are trying to set a timetable for withdraw of troops.  If Bush continues to ignore the American public which congress represents, they will be forced to withdraw aide.  That would be Bush's choice, not the Congress's.   Congress has a low rating because in my opinion they are doing what the American people voted most of them in to do.  Represent them.  The large majority of American people want us out of Iraq, period.  The logistics should come from the Military for sure.  But, the fact remains, we the people want us out of this Bush nighmare!

Last edited by GATOR591957 (2007-07-19 09:15:58)

the lengths neo con drongos go to try to justify the chimp in the whitehole.

GATOR591957 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

It's interesting to see someone on these boards that can actually look into the future that might have been.  Tell me, Is my Merrill Lynch stock going to rebound?

Looks like you have to work on your memory first before I look into the future for you...LOL. If you don't remember what Gore was pushing for well before 9/11 than I can't help you. He was pushing for more direct action towards Iraq as did a lot of people in that time. Gore was tired of the year after year of resolutions and the inability to let investigators finish and verify what Hussein had or didn't have. Gore along with many Democrats AND Republicans were pushing for military action. Then...9/11 happens and virtually everyone, Republic and Democrat alike voted for war in Iraq. You can't blame one party or the other for the mess we are in.....they both have responsibility.

What I don't like is that people forget how much of a role the Democrats had in all this. They are as much responsible as the Republicans are. Neither have clean hands. But now Democrats are hitting a new level of low by trying to block military aide and support that our soldiers need so that they can win political points back home. If you think that is okay to do, put our soldiers at more risk than they already are..then again, you are a lost cause. We need to give our soldiers what they need to protect themselves and NO PARTY should use that to get a leg up on the other.

Oh I remember quite well.  What I find interesting is you seem to know what Gore would have done.  You ASSUME.  Big mistake, especially in politics.

For the record they are not trying to block military aide.  They are trying to set a timetable for withdraw of troops.  If Bush continues to ignore the American public which congress represents, they will be forced to withdraw aide.  That would be Bush's choice, not the Congress's.   Congress has a low rating because in my opinion they are doing what the American people voted most of them in to do.  Represent them.  The large majority of American people want us out of Iraq, period.  The logistics should come from the Military for sure.  But, the fact remains, we the people want us out of this Bush nighmare!

Are you nuts? You stated exactly why politicians are using the aide blockade to try to force Bush to give in and he won't. It's pathetic. They aren't withdrawing aide either. The material support and money is sitting back here at home. The new vehicles built to withstand the new powerful IED's are sitting in parking lots here at home. That is not a withdrawal of aide...it is a blockade. McCain said it best the other night...He isn't angry, he is beyond angry, he is just sad.....why? Because he can not believe that the Democrats are using this tactic by blocking aide to soldiers who are there whether we like it or not. Blocking aide solely so they can beat Bush and if Bush doesn't give in then they can run around saying "I told you so, I told you so...nanananana". That is totally pathetic and an insult to the men and women still in Iraq who are only doing their job. To hold this aide hostage for political gains is the ultimate of backstabbing of your own troops.

ATG wrote:

TGMaverick wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

You just look like a complete asshole when you preach "uber eco friendliness" and then dine on endangered species...

Chilean Sea Bass is not an endangered species.  http://www.state.gov/g/oes/rls/fs/2002/8989.htm 

While the majority of Chilean Sea Bass is poached and/or harvested illegally, it doesn't mean that they're an endangered species.

You believe the government?


http://www.net.org/proactive/newsroom/r … l?id=26415

So a few resturaunts can make up the list?

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Looks like you have to work on your memory first before I look into the future for you...LOL. If you don't remember what Gore was pushing for well before 9/11 than I can't help you. He was pushing for more direct action towards Iraq as did a lot of people in that time. Gore was tired of the year after year of resolutions and the inability to let investigators finish and verify what Hussein had or didn't have. Gore along with many Democrats AND Republicans were pushing for military action. Then...9/11 happens and virtually everyone, Republic and Democrat alike voted for war in Iraq. You can't blame one party or the other for the mess we are in.....they both have responsibility.

What I don't like is that people forget how much of a role the Democrats had in all this. They are as much responsible as the Republicans are. Neither have clean hands. But now Democrats are hitting a new level of low by trying to block military aide and support that our soldiers need so that they can win political points back home. If you think that is okay to do, put our soldiers at more risk than they already are..then again, you are a lost cause. We need to give our soldiers what they need to protect themselves and NO PARTY should use that to get a leg up on the other.

Oh I remember quite well.  What I find interesting is you seem to know what Gore would have done.  You ASSUME.  Big mistake, especially in politics.

For the record they are not trying to block military aide.  They are trying to set a timetable for withdraw of troops.  If Bush continues to ignore the American public which congress represents, they will be forced to withdraw aide.  That would be Bush's choice, not the Congress's.   Congress has a low rating because in my opinion they are doing what the American people voted most of them in to do.  Represent them.  The large majority of American people want us out of Iraq, period.  The logistics should come from the Military for sure.  But, the fact remains, we the people want us out of this Bush nighmare!

Are you nuts? You stated exactly why politicians are using the aide blockade to try to force Bush to give in and he won't. It's pathetic. They aren't withdrawing aide either. The material support and money is sitting back here at home. The new vehicles built to withstand the new powerful IED's are sitting in parking lots here at home. That is not a withdrawal of aide...it is a blockade. McCain said it best the other night...He isn't angry, he is beyond angry, he is just sad.....why? Because he can not believe that the Democrats are using this tactic by blocking aide to soldiers who are there whether we like it or not. Blocking aide solely so they can beat Bush and if Bush doesn't give in then they can run around saying "I told you so, I told you so...nanananana". That is totally pathetic and an insult to the men and women still in Iraq who are only doing their job. To hold this aide hostage for political gains is the ultimate of backstabbing of your own troops.

Facts please, sorry I can't take your word for it.  As far as the MRAP, here is where your delay lies.


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/

GATOR591957 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

Oh I remember quite well.  What I find interesting is you seem to know what Gore would have done.  You ASSUME.  Big mistake, especially in politics.

For the record they are not trying to block military aide.  They are trying to set a timetable for withdraw of troops.  If Bush continues to ignore the American public which congress represents, they will be forced to withdraw aide.  That would be Bush's choice, not the Congress's.   Congress has a low rating because in my opinion they are doing what the American people voted most of them in to do.  Represent them.  The large majority of American people want us out of Iraq, period.  The logistics should come from the Military for sure.  But, the fact remains, we the people want us out of this Bush nighmare!

Are you nuts? You stated exactly why politicians are using the aide blockade to try to force Bush to give in and he won't. It's pathetic. They aren't withdrawing aide either. The material support and money is sitting back here at home. The new vehicles built to withstand the new powerful IED's are sitting in parking lots here at home. That is not a withdrawal of aide...it is a blockade. McCain said it best the other night...He isn't angry, he is beyond angry, he is just sad.....why? Because he can not believe that the Democrats are using this tactic by blocking aide to soldiers who are there whether we like it or not. Blocking aide solely so they can beat Bush and if Bush doesn't give in then they can run around saying "I told you so, I told you so...nanananana". That is totally pathetic and an insult to the men and women still in Iraq who are only doing their job. To hold this aide hostage for political gains is the ultimate of backstabbing of your own troops.

Facts please, sorry I can't take your word for it.  As far as the MRAP, here is where your delay lies.


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/

Oh wow...another left wing internet link. Yes, then it must be true. LOLOL
I am not Democrat or Republican. I will not use internet links that support one side or the other. Your "facts" come from internet links. Sorry, I don't and refuse to have the internet be my sole source of knowledge. That would be ridiculous.

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Are you nuts? You stated exactly why politicians are using the aide blockade to try to force Bush to give in and he won't. It's pathetic. They aren't withdrawing aide either. The material support and money is sitting back here at home. The new vehicles built to withstand the new powerful IED's are sitting in parking lots here at home. That is not a withdrawal of aide...it is a blockade. McCain said it best the other night...He isn't angry, he is beyond angry, he is just sad.....why? Because he can not believe that the Democrats are using this tactic by blocking aide to soldiers who are there whether we like it or not. Blocking aide solely so they can beat Bush and if Bush doesn't give in then they can run around saying "I told you so, I told you so...nanananana". That is totally pathetic and an insult to the men and women still in Iraq who are only doing their job. To hold this aide hostage for political gains is the ultimate of backstabbing of your own troops.

Facts please, sorry I can't take your word for it.  As far as the MRAP, here is where your delay lies.


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/25/cbs-on-mrap/

Oh wow...another left wing internet link. Yes, then it must be true. LOLOL


I am not Democrat or Republican. I will not use internet links that support one side or the other. Your "facts" come from internet links. Sorry, I don't and refuse to have the internet be my sole source of knowledge. That would be ridiculous.

So we are supposed to use your facts.  Just how enlightened are you?  Like crystal ball enlightened, or just gut feeling enlightened?

Last edited by GATOR591957 (2007-07-19 14:27:28)

nlsme wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

It was his choice to be a public figure.  It was his choice to come back and beg for attention.  This is what he gets.  You look at it black and white Bert.  For him, it is related.

I can't see how, they are totally independent issues.

Although I should emphasise again that I do think he's a hypocrite for his outrageous energy consumption. It seems like a problem he is genuinely concerned about - but happy for everyone else to deal with, as though telling people about the issue is his only responsibility (that's my opinion anyway).

He gets most of his energy from clean sources.

Of course he does. Like all that super clean jet fuel his private jet uses.

He is a hypocrite who does not practice what he preaches. But not for this fish thing.



btw: An aide is someone who helps you do stuff. Reminded me of the Southpark episode Jared has AIDs

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-19 15:29:09)