DeathBecomesYu wrote:
I will say that we have killed a lot of enemy combatants. I hope so because it is a war and I'm sure the people risking their lives shoot back...kill or be killed. Marinejuana....how old are you? Have you been in a war? Have you spoken or be friends with a soldier who has died or come back from Iraq? I bet the answer is no to all of them and if you say yes....then you are a liar too. Because if you did, you wouldn't be spewing the BS you are trying to spew in here. Do you realize that you are speaking to several people who have been to and lived in Iraq? I have not been to Iraq but I did lose a friend there. I'll say this, I would take the word of someone who lived, fought and died there over a guy throwing links from biased websites.
why do you think that only people that are in the military can decide when killing is okay? If this was our policy, how would it be different from rule by a military dictatorship? the constitution (which was ignored for this war) says that congress must approve war. i dont care how much u respect soldiers, but i respect our constitution and its inherent wisdom of forcing a military to obey the people and not the other way around.
DeathBecomesYu wrote:
I did use a link to start a thread about how one person said what I think a lot of people wonder about. "Why moderate Muslims are not trying to defend and take back their religion from the radicals" and marinejuana chooses to turn this into a debate about the American Military and the "carnage" and indiscriminate death by the U.S. military(sarcasm)........How did that happen? Get back on topic marinejuana or make up your own thread about evil America and take your conspiracy BS somewhere else.
the link you posted was to a radical neo-conservative racist that was angry with the Muslim people AS A WHOLE for their lack of a unifying condemnation for terrorist attacks committed by other Muslims. My posts are actually perfectly on-topic because I show how this radio host's point of view is completely backwards with respect to casualties, both Western and Muslim. I'm sorry that your Muslim bashing thread didn't go as smoothly this time as they normally do
. You will have to live with the fact that we are the violent aggressor sooner or later.
usmarine2005 wrote:
Marinejuana wrote:
If you feel that the three links I posted are not accurate death counts for whatever reason, why don't you post a link to the most accurate death count?
Either way, you know its a fact that many more Muslims have died because of America than Americans have died due to Muslim terror attacks. You can post all you like, but you still haven't advanced your side of the argument at all. Obviously the radio host's point is BS if the Muslims are victims.
If you can show me how many muslims have killed muslims in Iraq, then we can talk.
"A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred." -washington post
Are you suggesting that the number of Iraqi Muslims killing Iraqi Muslims verges on 665,000? Or even the conservative estimate of 70,000? Don't send me running for more statistics when you haven't even discussed the first 3 submissions I made.
I don't see why you are trying to make the absurd argument that U.S. military occupation isn't the primary source of violence in Iraq.
You do realize that there was not a war happening there before we arrived, right? The level of ignorance here is appalling. In the face of enormous death counts and your own army you are crazy enough to claim that the victims are merely killing themselves. i hear a lot of jews were "just killing each other" in the warsaw ghetto.
let me repeat: "A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003
than would have died if the invasion had not occurred." -washington post
I have posted the best possible evidence to suggest that Iraqis are victimized to a greater degree than Western terror victims, and none of you seem to provide any evidence to dispute this. USMarine, have some self-respect and either concede that you have no evidence whatsoever to support your stance here, or produce such evidence so that outsiders may understand why you agree with the extremist radio host.
Last edited by Marinejuana (2007-07-19 00:57:45)