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atlvolunteer wrote:

According to the Free Dictionary, terrorism is defined as:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism
I looked it up on Websters also, but it gave a vague definition:

the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

Neither, however, specify that a civilian target is necessary for the act to be considered terrorism.

Last edited by Beatdown Patrol (2006-01-26 22:23:05)

FeloniousMonk wrote:

Thanks again for the stirring debate. Just wanted to reply to this one statement.

I do not justify the actions of this administration in the middle east. Not in the least bit. There are some things I agree with, some I don't, but overall I do not approve of the invasion/liberation.

But two things cannot be denied.

1. The people of Iraq are now experiencing more freedom then they have since the country was established.

2. Leaving now would only make things worse for the Iraqis.

Last edited by Beatdown Patrol (2006-01-26 22:39:48)

Beatdown Patrol wrote:

atlvolunteer wrote:

According to the Free Dictionary, terrorism is defined as:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism
I looked it up on Websters also, but it gave a vague definition:

the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

Neither, however, specify that a civilian target is necessary for the act to be considered terrorism.

Strange.  I checked the exact link that you posted and it says the following:

Noun    1.  Terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear.

I would also look at the Wikipedia definition as well.  It lists several key criteria towards the bottom that you will probably find very interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

- Beatdown

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Some of the same people who were so anti-government at the time, but thinking that we should execute more prisoners, at the discretion of the government! How do you even begin to process that.

Ammon Bundy, an anti-government activist who lead the 41-day armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge back in 2016, expressed support for the Black Lives Matter movement and for defunding the police in a recent Facebook video.

He said in the video that he had considered attending, near his home in Boise, Idaho, “a rally with the Black Lives Matter in support of defunding the police because yes the police need to be defunded.” He decided not to attend the rally, citing concerns about potential violence from fellow “Patriots” who have criticized his stance on the issue.

Anyone who doesn’t understand his support for the movement “must have a problem,” he said.

“You must have a problem in your mind if you think that somehow the Black Lives Matter is more dangerous than the police,” he said. “You must have a problem in your mind if you think that Antifa is the one going to take your freedom.”
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He criticized his followers for supporting law enforcement and the military “even when they’re doing terrible things across the world.”

“I’m not saying that everything they’re doing and every person in it — don’t get me wrong – are doing that, but there needs to be a defunding of government in general, and especially the police forces because they’re the ones who are actually going to seek and destroy us.”