usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7052

Skruples wrote:

Who gives a crap?
Then don't respond.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7011|California

Just have a few Super Stallions do low altitude flights and hover constantly for like 3 weeks. That way, they will go insane and leave
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6991

usmarine2005 wrote:

Skruples wrote:

Who gives a crap?
Then don't respond.
I should only respond if I share your point of view? You must have a warped definition of the word "debate".
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7052

Skruples wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Skruples wrote:

Who gives a crap?
Then don't respond.
I should only respond if I share your point of view? You must have a warped definition of the word "debate".
You should only respond if you give a crap.  That would be better for a debate no?
acEofspadEs6313
Shiny! Let's be bad guys.
+102|6983|NAS Jacksonville, Florida

Retalliation[1337] wrote:

If they would ban them that would be a serious loss :the blue angels are the pride and glory of the airforce i allways watch their shows on youtube/tv here....
I would be honored if they wanted to fly over my city/state/province w/e...
Btw :they look so cooooool
The Blue Angels are the "pride and glory" of the Marine Corps and Navy. The Thunderbirds are Air Force.
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6991

usmarine2005 wrote:

Skruples wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


Then don't respond.
I should only respond if I share your point of view? You must have a warped definition of the word "debate".
You should only respond if you give a crap.  That would be better for a debate no?
Evidently I do give a crap, as I did respond. I just don't give a crap for the same reason you give a crap...

Like I said in my original post, there are a great deal of posts, including yours, lambasting the city of San Francisco for something that a stark minority of its citizens have done. There's not even any garauntee that those 500 people all live in SF, but that doesn't seem to matter. This online petition will go nowhere, I can assure you, and I can also assure you that in any major city in the U.S you can find 500 people espousing some common, insane ideal.
acEofspadEs6313
Shiny! Let's be bad guys.
+102|6983|NAS Jacksonville, Florida

Skruples wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Skruples wrote:


I should only respond if I share your point of view? You must have a warped definition of the word "debate".
You should only respond if you give a crap.  That would be better for a debate no?
Evidently I do give a crap, as I did respond. I just don't give a crap for the same reason you give a crap...

Like I said in my original post, there are a great deal of posts, including yours, lambasting the city of San Francisco for something that a stark minority of its citizens have done. There's not even any garauntee that those 500 people all live in SF, but that doesn't seem to matter. This online petition will go nowhere, I can assure you, and I can also assure you that in any major city in the U.S you can find 500 people espousing some common, insane ideal.
Meh, I'll do it.

What about all the people who make posts lambasting the USA for something that a stark minority has done?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6912|London, England

acEofspadEs6313 wrote:

Retalliation[1337] wrote:

If they would ban them that would be a serious loss :the blue angels are the pride and glory of the airforce i allways watch their shows on youtube/tv here....
I would be honored if they wanted to fly over my city/state/province w/e...
Btw :they look so cooooool
The Blue Angels are the "pride and glory" of the Marine Corps and Navy. The Thunderbirds are Air Force.
You'd think it was the guys that did the real work. If the Red Arrows are the pride of our airforce instead of the guys doing the real work, then i'm lost for words.
acEofspadEs6313
Shiny! Let's be bad guys.
+102|6983|NAS Jacksonville, Florida

Mekstizzle wrote:

acEofspadEs6313 wrote:

Retalliation[1337] wrote:

If they would ban them that would be a serious loss :the blue angels are the pride and glory of the airforce i allways watch their shows on youtube/tv here....
I would be honored if they wanted to fly over my city/state/province w/e...
Btw :they look so cooooool
The Blue Angels are the "pride and glory" of the Marine Corps and Navy. The Thunderbirds are Air Force.
You'd think it was the guys that did the real work. If the Red Arrows are the pride of our airforce instead of the guys doing the real work, then i'm lost for words.
Well, I know that. I'm just going off what you said.
mudder
Member
+8|6816
Like some other people here I think the Blue angels are not that cool to watch anyway. Boring!  Thunderbirds, tad bit better. Snowbirds from Canada are better than both. Seeing an old B52 or Corsair or even an F-15 turn away from you and juice it is way more fascinating to me.  PS interesting note I was at Wright Patterson AF base when the Russians released the Mig-29 to the US public for the first time.  That was amazing!!! Seeing the first stage of vector control in use. The damn thing "hovered" for a moment. That was also the same tour that the US officialy released the F117 to us.
Desert storm circa.
Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6840|EUtopia | Austria
I especially like the opening sentence of the report:
The annual aerial show by the U.S. Navy’s Blue Angels — a San Francisco tradition dating back to 1981 that pumps millions into the local economy — is running into opposition from three local peace advocacy groups that are calling for a permanent halt to the popular Fleet Week flyover.
When I read the words tradition dating back to... i thought of like 6 or 7 centuries (which is nonsense for airshows, anyway), but then it's only back to 1981 :-D
Kinda odd to use the term 'tradition' after hardly one generation...
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6645
I think I have you beat.
In New York City about a year ago.

    The Blue Angels gave a show at ( over ) the War Memorial “ The USS Intrepid “.
Many local school children attended.  After seeing the show, many little tykes were exited about it.

( enter a liberal, stage left, scary music. )

    Back at school Their teacher felt it was necessary to explain to the little school children, ( I’m Para phrasing now ) “ When  The Blue Angels aren’t doing acrobatic shows, they Bomb people, They could bomb you too!  Maybe we should all get together and write The Blue Angels  a nice letter asking them not blow up our school or kill us. ” Needles to say they did as instructed.

“ please Blue Angels Don’t blow up our school ! We wont have anyplace to learn if you do ! “ Etc. etc.

Our tax dollars at work.  Socialism ! Moving forward together LOL !

I would make a separate post but I cant find the original article in Goggle, This new thing has swamped all searches about Blue Angel protests. It was a teacher from Harlem about a year or two ago. Anyone else here of it ?
<BoTM>J_Aero
Qualified Expert
+62|6756|Melbourne - Home of Football

rdx-fx wrote:

Call it for what it is;

Dangerous?  yeah, possibly some of the most highly trained, dedicated, focused pilots in the world...
Get real.

Waste of fuel?  Okay, as soon as SF bans all automobiles, turns off all electronic devices (powered by coal/nuclear/oil plants, mostly), recycles all electronic items that have tantalum or lead (=iPod, cell phone, computer, TV, etc etc) .... THEN we'll think about canceling the handful of jets the Blue Angels operate.
I was going to post, but Rdx has summed it up perfectly.
golgoj4
Member
+51|7065|North Hollywood

InnerMonkey wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

Hmm, random stereotypical verbal muddbutt about ca when you know pretty much jack shite about it obviously.  I was just pointing out that your chucklehead mentality gets nobody anywhere fast. Funny how you don't mention where your from. Thats cool. I don't have to put down other states ad naseum so I can feel better. Hell, I actually appreciate the difference in the states because even things about Ca annoy me. But you assume its all one hippie commune. :rolls eyes: I was just stating the fact that California's strong economy and diversity of industry makes it an asset to the US.  Last thing we contributed...well your on a cpu, so either intel or amd. those are in ca. so is the HQ for ea games. They obviously have worldwide fabrication plants and studios, but essentially, the whole goddamned reason you are even on this website is because of ideas produced by companies based in ca. Little thing called the silicon valley. I wont get started on other industry.  Just keep all your disphit Hollywood this and Hollywood that crap to yourself. People buy it. But all people think is that its potheads and celebrities... And how can you hear anything when you don't actually listen.

it a wonder you hear anything what with a vacuum between the ears...

The only state i can say I honestly have a beef with is conneticut. Some kid tried to sell me crack @ a mall. WTF?!?!?!?!?
I never used the words hippie commune.  Those are your insecurities speaking, not mine.  You continue to push the attitude, telling everyone how thankful I should be to CA for existing because nobody else could run a factory if CA wasn't there to show them how.  Great!  Kudos to you!  I'm sorry I ever doubted the GENERAL FUCKING PUBLIC.  That's right, I was originally speaking about what I hear about California.  As in, what is the general stereotype (you've got it pegged by the way).  I gotta keep that in mind, else the next reject that can't see sarcasm when he reads a single sentence comment will get all bent out of shape too.

By the way, fuck Hollywood.  Can you believe someone tried to sell me drugs there!?!  The horror!
Damn your slow,

But i'll try again. Sigh...just in case you dont understand what you typed, you asked if anything usefull comes out of ca. I pointed it out. Dont get all butthurt and try and hide behind your 'sarcasm' when you get served. happens every day, get over it.  And what is the general stereotype? They we actually know wtf we're talking about? I dont know what chip it is you roll around with, but seriously, let it go. As far as the 'general public' well I suppose then ghandi there other issues that are more important that some hippies in san fran complaining about fighter jets. I personally would be worried if they didnt. Part of having a democracy. But apparently these are all concepts that escape you. I wonder who is really bent out of shape? Im just pointing out the facts, take a deep breath. And I didnt hear you thank silicon valley yet
golgoj4
Member
+51|7065|North Hollywood

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I think I have you beat.
In New York City about a year ago.

    The Blue Angels gave a show at ( over ) the War Memorial “ The USS Intrepid “.
Many local school children attended.  After seeing the show, many little tykes were exited about it.

( enter a liberal, stage left, scary music. )

    Back at school Their teacher felt it was necessary to explain to the little school children, ( I’m Para phrasing now ) “ When  The Blue Angels aren’t doing acrobatic shows, they Bomb people, They could bomb you too!  Maybe we should all get together and write The Blue Angels  a nice letter asking them not blow up our school or kill us. ” Needles to say they did as instructed.

“ please Blue Angels Don’t blow up our school ! We wont have anyplace to learn if you do ! “ Etc. etc.

Our tax dollars at work.  Socialism ! Moving forward together LOL !

I would make a separate post but I cant find the original article in Goggle, This new thing has swamped all searches about Blue Angel protests. It was a teacher from Harlem about a year or two ago. Anyone else here of it ?
:rolls eyes: Thats obviously some anti-war nut. Not a liberal. go look up the meaning of the word before running off at the mouth.

btw, the teacher is a tard, but that doesn't make you any better than him. But thats the problem, too many people trying to spin the truth to their own ends.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6645

golgoj4 wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I think I have you beat.
In New York City about a year ago.

    The Blue Angels gave a show at ( over ) the War Memorial “ The USS Intrepid “.
Many local school children attended.  After seeing the show, many little tykes were exited about it.

( enter a liberal, stage left, scary music. )

    Back at school Their teacher felt it was necessary to explain to the little school children, ( I’m Para phrasing now ) “ When  The Blue Angels aren’t doing acrobatic shows, they Bomb people, They could bomb you too!  Maybe we should all get together and write The Blue Angels  a nice letter asking them not blow up our school or kill us. ” Needles to say they did as instructed.

“ please Blue Angels Don’t blow up our school ! We wont have anyplace to learn if you do ! “ Etc. etc.

Our tax dollars at work.  Socialism ! Moving forward together LOL !

I would make a separate post but I cant find the original article in Goggle, This new thing has swamped all searches about Blue Angel protests. It was a teacher from Harlem about a year or two ago. Anyone else here of it ?
:rolls eyes: Thats obviously some anti-war nut. Not a liberal. .
Please show me a liberal who backs his country during war.

golgoj4 wrote:

go look up the meaning of the word before running off at the mouth. .
Go look up the meaning of the words “ useless empty bravado and posturing in anonymous safety ”  before running off at the mouth.

golgoj4 wrote:

btw, the teacher is a tard, but that doesn't make you any better than him..
Yes it does. You may not be any better, but that’s not for me to decide.

golgoj4 wrote:

But thats the problem, too many people trying to spin the truth to their own ends.
No that’s not the problem. The problem in both cases is, people who don’t have a clue trying to force their will, opinions and ideals upon innocent others by using dishonest tactics and lies at the taxpayers expense.
I just told a story I read in the N.Y. Daily News more than a year ago. I told it almost verbatim using many direct quotes. If you felt singled out and insulted that is an issue you must address alone.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-06-15 12:01:45)

lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7120|Denver colorado

-=raska=- wrote:

In quebec city too we had a few complainers about the blue angels when they came last year. They were saying that we were entertained by killing machines and that it was a waste of fuel, etc...
When I first got bf2 and I showed my dad the jets he got all pissy when I commented on how the jets were cool and said something just like that.
golgoj4
Member
+51|7065|North Hollywood

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I think I have you beat.
In New York City about a year ago.

    The Blue Angels gave a show at ( over ) the War Memorial “ The USS Intrepid “.
Many local school children attended.  After seeing the show, many little tykes were exited about it.

( enter a liberal, stage left, scary music. )

    Back at school Their teacher felt it was necessary to explain to the little school children, ( I’m Para phrasing now ) “ When  The Blue Angels aren’t doing acrobatic shows, they Bomb people, They could bomb you too!  Maybe we should all get together and write The Blue Angels  a nice letter asking them not blow up our school or kill us. ” Needles to say they did as instructed.

“ please Blue Angels Don’t blow up our school ! We wont have anyplace to learn if you do ! “ Etc. etc.

Our tax dollars at work.  Socialism ! Moving forward together LOL !

I would make a separate post but I cant find the original article in Goggle, This new thing has swamped all searches about Blue Angel protests. It was a teacher from Harlem about a year or two ago. Anyone else here of it ?
:rolls eyes: Thats obviously some anti-war nut. Not a liberal. .
Please show me a liberal who backs his country during war.

golgoj4 wrote:

go look up the meaning of the word before running off at the mouth. .
Go look up the meaning of the words “ useless empty bravado and posturing ”  before running off at the mouth.

golgoj4 wrote:

btw, the teacher is a tard, but that doesn't make you any better than him..
Yes it does. You may not be any better, but that’s not for me to decide.

golgoj4 wrote:

But thats the problem, too many people trying to spin the truth to their own ends.
No that’s not the problem. The problem in both cases is, people who don’t have a clue trying to force their will, opinions and ideals upon innocent others by using dishonest tactics and lies at the taxpayers expense.
I just told a story I read in the N.Y. Daily News more than a year ago. I told it almost verbatim using many direct quotes. If you felt singled out and insulted that is an issue you must address alone.
So i guess as of this post you still dont know what liberal means. I suppose FDR and Truman, while liberals, didnt support their country during a time of war? That has got to be the most clueless statement i've heard here since 'they hate us for our freedom' Please, you seriously need to understand what you type. Which brings me back to my original statement. Please go look up the words you so freely use.

I never said the teacher was right, in fact, hes very wrong. But your clueless take on matters really doesn't help to do anything but spread fud. Good job not responding with anything useful, just more blah blah blah. At least Kmarion provides an reasonable conversation. Why do you even bother? And if you expect blind support for BS wars, well thats called an Absolute monarchy and Im not interested.

As far as being singled out and insulted, im insulted every time some rocket scientist decides to toss words around when he as no idea wtf he is talking about.

Please respond only when you've taken the time to inform yourself, or at bare minimum be able to address the post instread of rambling on.
agent146
Member
+127|6677|Jesus Land aka Canada

Superslim wrote:

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Fucking.Hippies.
san fransico....the city that is so full of smug.
as for war and military? jeez christ i hate these hippy smacktards that go nuts when they see or hear the anything that was to do the military. last friday i was just wearing "tiger strip" camoflage pants and this guy walks up to me and tells me to go "get a bullet in yourhead" and "your a baby killer"  i was like "F#@$ man i just wearing camoflage for fun can you calm down."
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|6868|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Fucking.Hippies.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6645

golgoj4 wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:


:rolls eyes: Thats obviously some anti-war nut. Not a liberal. .
Please show me a liberal who backs his country during war.

golgoj4 wrote:

go look up the meaning of the word before running off at the mouth. .
Go look up the meaning of the words “ useless empty bravado and posturing ”  before running off at the mouth.

golgoj4 wrote:

btw, the teacher is a tard, but that doesn't make you any better than him..
Yes it does. You may not be any better, but that’s not for me to decide.

golgoj4 wrote:

But thats the problem, too many people trying to spin the truth to their own ends.
No that’s not the problem. The problem in both cases is, people who don’t have a clue trying to force their will, opinions and ideals upon innocent others by using dishonest tactics and lies at the taxpayers expense.
I just told a story I read in the N.Y. Daily News more than a year ago. I told it almost verbatim using many direct quotes. If you felt singled out and insulted that is an issue you must address alone.
So i guess as of this post you still dont know what liberal means. I suppose FDR and Truman, while liberals, didnt support their country during a time of war? That has got to be the most clueless statement i've heard here since 'they hate us for our freedom' Please, you seriously need to understand what you type. Which brings me back to my original statement. Please go look up the words you so freely use.

I never said the teacher was right, in fact, hes very wrong. But your clueless take on matters really doesn't help to do anything but spread fud. Good job not responding with anything useful, just more blah blah blah. At least Kmarion provides an reasonable conversation. Why do you even bother? And if you expect blind support for BS wars, well thats called an Absolute monarchy and Im not interested.

As far as being singled out and insulted, im insulted every time some rocket scientist decides to toss words around when he as no idea wtf he is talking about.

Please respond only when you've taken the time to inform yourself, or at bare minimum be able to address the post instread of rambling on.
WTF are you talking about now ?
Bed Time !
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6645
1. We were talking about “People who protest the Blue Angels " and then you showed up.

2. I just told a story I read in the N.Y. Daily News more than a year ago. I told it almost verbatim using many direct quotes. If you felt singled out and insulted that is an issue you must address alone.

3. Further The Teacher described himself as “a Liberal demanding social reforms. “ Sorry.

golgoj4 wrote:

So i guess as of this post you still dont know what liberal means.
4. I do, he was, and you are way off topic.

golgoj4 wrote:

I suppose FDR and Truman, while liberals,
5. By today’s standards they were not , nor would they wish to be called such. IMHO

golgoj4 wrote:

didnt support their country during a time of war? That has got to be the most clueless statement i've heard here since 'they hate us for our freedom'
6. Not applicable at all and way off the thread.

7. They hate us for many reasons and Freedom, that is one of them.

To name a few… Women can drive, Vote, Paint their fingernails
( watch out for that one ladies . Punishment is having them pulled out  ! )   Marry without consent. Fuck out of wedlock. Say “No” to their husband.

These are all freedoms that they HATE and want to desperately to correct., even if it costs your life.

So again, you are so hopelessly lost and out of your depth.

golgoj4 wrote:

Please, you seriously need to understand what you type. Which brings me back to my original statement. Please go look up the words you so freely use.
8. NO. You are lost and deluded.

golgoj4 wrote:

I never said the teacher was right, in fact, hes very wrong. But your clueless take on matters really doesn't help to do anything but spread fud.
9. Prove it. So far it looks like you just didn’t consider the whole picture. An amateur’s mistake in debate.  ( See 7.)

golgoj4 wrote:

Good job not responding with anything useful, just more blah blah blah.
10. Useful like

golgoj4 wrote:

blah blah blah.
Roflmao@U

golgoj4 wrote:

At least Kmarion provides an reasonable conversation.
11. You don’t, Read your last two statements listed above.

golgoj4 wrote:

Why do you even bother?
12. ( See 1. )

golgoj4 wrote:

And if you expect blind support for BS wars,
13. ( See 1. )

golgoj4 wrote:

well thats called an Absolute monarchy and Im not interested.
14.  A monarchy, from the Greek μονος, "one", and αρχειν, "to rule', is a form of government in which a monarch, usually a single person, is the head of state.
In most monarchies, the monarch holds their position for life (in some republics the head of state, often styled president, also remains in office for life, but in most is elected for a term of office, after which he or she must step down). There are currently 32 monarchs reigning over 46 extant sovereign monarchies in the world.

It think you were looking for the tired old saw “ Bush wants to create a fascist dictatorship”
Nice try though !


golgoj4 wrote:

As far as being singled out and insulted, im insulted
15. I thought so !

golgoj4 wrote:

every time some rocket scientist decides to toss words around when he as no idea wtf he is talking about.
16.  Like you ? Take a minute ( or thirty in your case ) to re-read all the errors in your sentences.

golgoj4 wrote:

Please respond only when you've taken the time to inform yourself,
17. No, I never sweat the small stuff. I just roll over you kind of quick, but hey, thanks.

golgoj4 wrote:

or at bare minimum be able to address the post instread of rambling on.
18 ( see 1. ) And use a spell checker.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-06-16 08:39:32)

Jimbo145
Resident Pimp
+15|6560|Upstate Noo Yawk
“they seem dangerous and unnecessary.”

Last edited by Jimbo145 (2007-06-15 15:51:27)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6696|North Carolina

usmarine2005 wrote:

This is why a I hate San fransisco.

When I was reading this, and seeing it on TV, I kind of blew it off.  Then, I read their reasons....

"CodePink has launched an online petition, signed by more than 500 people to date, calling on leaders to end the flyovers for reasons of public safety, air pollution and fuel waste."

http://www.examiner.com/a-768103~Daly%2 … 0show.html

Safety:       

Maybe these idiots are unaware of 15 year old 747's flying over their heads into San Fran.

Fuel Waste:

Maybe these idiots ignore the fact that celebrities and rich people fly alone on private jets.
Maybe these idiots do not realize their own governor uses private jets ALL the time, and requires back-up aircraft be in position just in case his breaks.  That is a huge waste of fuel.



I truly do not get people like this.
San Francisco...  be afraid.... be very afraid...
golgoj4
Member
+51|7065|North Hollywood
To Hunter / Jumper, its not worth the time spent dissecting your post about semantics.

You cant re-write history, no matter how much you would like to. I find your conclusions on what a liberal is and why they 'hate us' to be laughable. Come on man, are you seriously that confused. Maybe go read some history books or something. Jeez, its like talking to a wall. I mean, i could cherry pick bs from your response all day, but then thats just a waste of bandwidth eh? I suppose I shall have to agree to disagree because there some people that just don't have the capacity to see beyond their own bs :shrugs: Thats what trolls are for i suppose.

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