morbesso666
Member
+0|6981|Givataim, Israel
Although not much would look at my post but I totally agree.
A Blackhawk spawnkilling me on my last and cappable base is fairplay? No it isn't.
A plane spawnkilling me? Not fairplay. I don't care just leave the damn Fragrate aside (K\D) and play this buggy crappy game!
aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7009

lcolby wrote:

1: The Non-cappable flags have defensive positions. AA, Mounted Machine Guns or TOWS
    This could only logically mean that they may possibly be attacked.
   (Although sometimes it does suck to get into a game half way and not even get to fire a shot before dieing)

2: I don't think one team should have the advantage of a non-capable flag, either both sides or no sides then it would be fair.
That is so much like a good idea.  Make all the flags cappable so neither team has an "advantage".
Dr.Battlefield
Got milk?
+150|6969

aardfrith wrote:

lcolby wrote:

1: The Non-cappable flags have defensive positions. AA, Mounted Machine Guns or TOWS
    This could only logically mean that they may possibly be attacked.
   (Although sometimes it does suck to get into a game half way and not even get to fire a shot before dieing)

2: I don't think one team should have the advantage of a non-capable flag, either both sides or no sides then it would be fair.
That is so much like a good idea.  Make all the flags cappable so neither team has an "advantage".
Yeah, but you will have to remove all assault maps than (like Karkand, Sharqi etc.) because attacking team will not have any chances, they ll be suppressed rly fast , but opfor will not be able to cap this one flag anyway (at least on 40+ server) so it ll be a spawn tank camping or sumptin like that. Even if attackers will cap one of the next flags they ll be down by 70-90 points already... so I'd say dont want to be base raped, eather play as a team( heh funny because it isnt possible very often) or dont play an assault maps.

P.S. Its not directy to anyone, so no offence

GL HF
slimer
Member
+0|6886
not killing on the uncapturable is like playing "hide and go seek". Its like the one team says "ok, i'll count to 20 and then i'll come seek you". spawn at the other spawn bitches.
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|6905|UK
I'm for baseraping.

Especially on wake, as the ship is the only base to start off with where there is USMC, Planes and Choppers come over to the airfield and waste all the noobs waiting for the attack helo thats just taken off..or a plane thats about to respawn.

When people do that to do the USMC they call it baseraping, when it's done to the Chinese, it's perfectly acceptable.

I was playing witha  guy the other day, he was on my team, he got in the Jet and had 20 kills within 2 minutes.
Skullfist
Member
+0|6942
Lol ...Hey DrBattlefield! Now see Dr Battlefiled has died under the gun of my tank more than once but that is not why I remember him.  See he didnt go post in a forum... he got an anti tank weapon and suppressed my tank for the rest of the map. I remember him Because he isnt scared of my tank! lol  Good players dont have these  being raped problems very often. I have had complaints about every kit in this game at one time or another. But in the 700 hrs that I have played this game 3 char. ( yes I have full time job and woman) I have played all the kits extensivly. WITH PRACTICE you can kick ass with any kit in the game! Having a good machine and connection really help too. I have a amd 1.4 with 266mhz ram (512) a 128 mb gforce4 card. I have to run this game in its lowest settings! this is a huge disadvantage for me yet I still own 80 percent of the time. Have lots of medals and lots of fun. Dont like Choopers and Airplanes! learn to fly.. thats what I did after getting my 1st and only purple heart. Life .. and games.. are about decisions ... those who make the right decisions in life win... It is no different in games.
Tushers
Noctwisaskfirtush
+224|6902|Some where huntin in Wisconsin
i think you all shoudl suck ur selfs(you that are whining and calling it "stat padding) its not niether it fair play if you put urself in to that positoin then you kind just fucked ur self, dont win cuz noone wants to hear it!  otherwise have a nice day and noone make a post beond me. lol ba by now!
TheMajorBummer
Have a nice day!
+-4|7042|Netherlands
talk talk talk:

at our server the rule is and stays:


NO ARTILL. ON UNCAP.

NO intentional baserape.

No intentional spawnkilling.

No intentional teamkilling.

No intentional statpadding.

Only 1 spec.ops allowed on main uncap to: C4 enemy assets.

No swear filter. No kickvote. No mapvote.

Need for admin : just call.

Only Day-light maps. (till next patch.)

No punish vote. (PB only)

No change side after end game.

No max idle-kick.

Who pay,s.....stay,s.

Clanwar invitations welcome.

Now lets obey the rules.

So stop ur blatant smacktardism.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6933
that sucks... btw there are no rules in war, cheaters always win and winners always win

Last edited by cyborg_ninja-117 (2006-01-25 02:45:33)

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TheMajorBummer
Have a nice day!
+-4|7042|Netherlands

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

that sucks... btw there are no rules in war, cheaters always win and winners always win
then run ur own server.

  Even in war.

the chance that HQ gets it in the start of the agression is fairly small.



in for the game.

those red circles mean :  RULES.

and no-one likes to be raped or spawnkilld at those places.

so why u tell me rules suck?

live with it or game elsewhere...
Fahrenheit
Member
+0|6996
so whats this Geneva convention thingy then? (like anyone gives it any regard lol). Hey Tushers and anyone else who states "its your fault for putting yourself in that position"...who said it was all black and white?..hell you can join a server halfway through a map with no chance of winning...thats just unlucky, you could be auto-balanced to the loosing side when they have only 5 tickets left......that just plain SUCKS!!!...you could be wasting your time capping flags cos no one else on your team has any idea of what to do...i.e. no initiative, regardless of how many times u tell em to go here or there...again unlucky cos ur landed with a load of noobs (new guys to the game)...basically give it a rest!!! obey the server rules...if no rules then hell do what u like....what goes around comes around. I wonder how many servers are empty cos the guys running it believe anything goes...lol what a waste of money!!!
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|6905|UK
Rules in war are a load of crap to be fair.

If a guy is trying to kill you, are you going to just stand there whilst he reloads because "it's not fair"

are you fuck.

You're going to shoot him.

War is about killing.

Murder is seen as one as the most unlawful thing someone can do, often the worst.

Yet there are rules in war?

It's one big contradiction.

Same goes for the game.

You're there to earn points for yourself and your team, and obviously kill.

not being allowed to kill someone because "its not fair" is bullshit

LIFE IS NOT FAIR
HolmWrecker
Member
+2|6927|Nibiru

TheMajorBummer wrote:

talk talk talk:

at our server the rule is and stays:


NO ARTILL. ON UNCAP.

NO intentional baserape.

No intentional spawnkilling.

No intentional teamkilling.

No intentional statpadding.

Only 1 spec.ops allowed on main uncap to: C4 enemy assets.

No swear filter. No kickvote. No mapvote.

Need for admin : just call.

Only Day-light maps. (till next patch.)

No punish vote. (PB only)

No change side after end game.

No max idle-kick.

Who pay,s.....stay,s.

Clanwar invitations welcome.

Now lets obey the rules.

So stop ur blatant smacktardism.
I'll make double sure to stay outa that kind crappy crap server with lame-o nazi rules.
I bet your all sore losers too.
Don't like getting owned? Tough. Learn or die. Pretty simple to me.
TheMajorBummer
Have a nice day!
+-4|7042|Netherlands
No:  means...its not! used on the server.

read  .

dont be soar on me, im just from the Netherlands.

and shure in real live there aint no rules in war...

look how all the world leaders make theire own rules and fuck up anything,.. rather then stick together.

btw ; its so good to swear and call names here.  so

go right ahead...show me how ur  interpetrate ur own rules on me....


better stay out  of servers, im shure u get kickt alot


ur richtig.


Sir Kickalot
AuSFinN
Member
+1|6906
Mate.. Spawn camping isnt cool. It is unfair, they're cheap kills. The rules are to play FAIRLY. Your are a noob if you promote such a thing.

Stop saying RAPE! Its bad! Do you even know what it means? OOOO!! I raped the base! You can't have sex with a base, no matter how desperate you are..
AuSFinN
Member
+1|6906

HolmWrecker wrote:

TheMajorBummer wrote:

talk talk talk:

at our server the rule is and stays:


NO ARTILL. ON UNCAP.

NO intentional baserape.

No intentional spawnkilling.

No intentional teamkilling.

No intentional statpadding.

Only 1 spec.ops allowed on main uncap to: C4 enemy assets.

No swear filter. No kickvote. No mapvote.

Need for admin : just call.

Only Day-light maps. (till next patch.)

No punish vote. (PB only)

No change side after end game.

No max idle-kick.

Who pay,s.....stay,s.

Clanwar invitations welcome.

Now lets obey the rules.

So stop ur blatant smacktardism.
I'll make double sure to stay outa that kind crappy crap server with lame-o nazi rules.
I bet your all sore losers too.
Don't like getting owned? Tough. Learn or die. Pretty simple to me.
I commend these rules. Good way to play fair. Too many people these days are uncouth. They dont give a shit about anything. Particularly school and rules. Is this the kind of crowd Battlefield 2 attracts?
TheMajorBummer
Have a nice day!
+-4|7042|Netherlands
finaly someone with a lil more IQ...

ty for ur commendation.

and most welcome.

Last edited by TheMajorBummer (2006-01-26 03:32:08)

THE_Ted_Chang
Member
+0|6906

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

that sucks... btw there are no rules in war, cheaters always win and winners always win
I think you'll find that there are plenty of rules in war and although it takes a while for the machinery to get going those who breach the rules end up paying for it. As for cheaters always wining, I suggest you look at Britain. we rarely cheat and always win. Enough said.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7056|Cheshire, UK

THE_Ted_Chang wrote:

Enough said.
Somehow I doubt it will be.


http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=11735
Rochambeau1218
Member
+0|6911
base raping is NOT fine. i dont give 6 shits about what you say is fair in love and war. this isnt war my friend. its a VIDEOGAME. and to tell you the truth were all playing it for the same reason. ITS FUN. now, when i have a suckass commander and a shitty team, and all i need is that one more kill till i get that badge that ive been working at for days now, and some little asshole and his two ltitle toobing buddies have to come in with an LAV at our last base and piss in my cheerios. THEN we have a problem. i realize all theyre trying to do is get their kills, but you can NOT tell me that you wouldnt be pissed in this situation. what you think is fair and what you know is fair are two completely different things, and whether or not you want to admit that you are annoyed in that situation, you are. i personally just bend over and take it, because some of the time it is our fault for not getting a good start early on in the game, or ill just leave the server altogether. i have no problem with noob toobing, armor whoring, and any of that shit. they put it in the game for a reason people and if they didnt want it there they wouldntve put it there, but baseraping is a whole other deal. there is no conventional way to stop baseraping in a battlefield style game without impeding on the core gameplay. it just doesnt happen and it never will.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7056|Cheshire, UK

Rochambeau1218 wrote:

but baseraping is a whole other deal. there is no conventional way to stop baseraping in a battlefield style game without impeding on the core gameplay
Bull.
Flat out incorrect.

The first way to stop base raping is to defend your bases properly.
Another would be to spawn somewhere else.

Both conventional and provided by the game.

Most baserape seems to happen on uncaps when all the others have been taken. So, WTF is supposed to happen? The nasty men go home while you regroup?

Anti-baserape 'rules' make the game unfair, the only fair means of play is to allow it for both sides and make sure people are prepared.

Read the poem^^^
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|7023|The planet Tophet
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im bored
TheMajorBummer
Have a nice day!
+-4|7042|Netherlands
Rule-rapist;  new badge?
OpsChief
Member
+101|6893|Southern California

AuSFinN wrote:

Mate.. Spawn camping isnt cool. It is unfair, they're cheap kills. The rules are to play FAIRLY. Your are a noob if you promote such a thing.

Stop saying RAPE! Its bad! Do you even know what it means? OOOO!! I raped the base! You can't have sex with a base, no matter how desperate you are..
Consider the skills it took to get to a place where someone can actually camp...no free rides - all skills or no thrills.

Spawn Camping (capable flag) is different than Base Raping (uncappable flag) as far as I can tell, maybe I got this wrong?. In BF2 it is almost impossible to spawn camp.

Any spawn point that is in the flag cap radius, line-of-sight or direct fire of a flag is ruled out as "spawn camping". Free spawning within a combat radius? lol no way! Not counting noncap flags, are there any spawn points on any BF2 map that do not meet this definition?

BF2 = Highly dynamic and lethal (simulated) environment, Joint/Combined/Multi-echelon is awesome. The myopic paradigms of other games do not apply here.

Base Raping is another thing entirely. Base Raids are a good idea. A raid is a short run thru the noncap base, destroy assets, kill the dazed and wandering enemy, grab some empty air or armor then leave to recap some flag elsewhere.  However after you cap all the enemy flags and he can only spawn at is uncap home base, then you obviously pwn, so then back off and let him form up, come out and pwn him some more. It's just more cap points and kills.

Real pwnership is that you have the skills, teamwork and confidence to back up and go another 5-10 minutes knowing you will unlimately win.

Make it fun for everyone then more people play. If more people play then you have more to pwn so your score goes up and up. There my students is your example of a symbiotic relationship at work. LOL
Alert Medic
Member
+0|6919
I can't believe that this thread is still open much less that people continue posting. Get a freakin life. It's a fuckin game for pete sake. If you can't have fun on it, quit playing.

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