Federal law ensures public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay.m3thod wrote:
No insurance? Yeah your gonna die bitch now get your flea infested carcass out of my hospital (US) We pay something called National Insuraace which pays for NHS.
Your first post basically was saying that America sucks at everything. Now, what I was trying to point out is that EVERYBODY has the same problems. Some places have better this and that. All countries have their good and bad. You have this, we have that. So what!. Of course we don't have a specific American culture. Because of this diversity, we are exposed to the world daily. The only people that have a true culture based in the United States are the Native Americans. But our history took much of that away from them. Yes, we hear stories of people being turned away at the hospital, but that is rare...very rare. I know that the area I live in...that sort of thing just doesn't happen. Also, i didn't say that America hasn't had school shootings but don't write as if we are the only ones. Your post was a perfect example of why the original poster here got upset. Basically you made general, sweeping negative assumptions over things that happen everywhere in this world but you tried to make it American specific.m3thod wrote:
Food: I used an example of something that is quentisentially American. Do you think i'm a fan of fish and chips?! And cusine from another culture doesn't count.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
Our Food? I do believe that we have more than hamburgers...just think about how many cultures live here.m3thod wrote:
Make the distinction, we say your government and leader sucks and she does big time.
Just what do you think we are jealous over?
Your food? Yeah, We have hamburgers too and more
Your cars? Don't make me laugh
Your public transport? it's as bad as ours
Your roads? Congested as ours
Your women? Ours have bad teeth and yours are clinically obese
Your currency? Which one do you want to compare Pound Sterling or Euro?
Culture? Please...
Education? Yours is failing miserably not to mention kiddie gun rampages.
Health? We get free health here, how about you?
A lot of people in old europe are mighty pissed off with your country behaviour of late (gee let me think why) their fury is directed at your elected government and people that support them. Invariably lines are blurred but the fact of the matter is if you believe Europeans are 'jealous' of the US....well you keep on believing that.
Our Cars? A lot of foreign car companies build there cars here WITH American labor, Ford just beat out Toyota for tops in Quality
Our Public Transport? Most of us have two or three cars, if not there are taxis, buses, car pools...and they are everywhere.
Our Roads? Congestion in major cities maybe, but this is a big ass country.....more open roads than congestive ones by far.
Our Woman? Obese? Actually i have dated women of all races..white, black, asian....etc. We definitely have a choice because of diversity and I haven't dated a fat woman yet and I have been married twice.
Our Currency? I love my dollars
Our Culture? Which one, this country is a melting pot more than any place in the world, we are exposed to every culture on daily basis, sometimes that is good, sometimes no choice about it.
Our Education? Oh lord.....failing? you are very naive and of course school shootings ONLY happen in the US...NOT!
Our Health System? It may not be free, but I don't have to wait 6 months to see a doctor or get a procedure done. Its not perfect and it may never be free but I live with it, especially because I can buy a 2,500 square foot house with land for $150,000 and get gas for around $3.00 a gallon. Would i like to be screwed on something else(taxes) just to have free health care? I'm happy with what I have right now. Yours may be "free" but don't forget that your government is getting it from you in other ways whether you believe that or not....its not truly free anywhere in this world.
I don't really believe other countries are jealous of us, maybe some people are, but as I said in another post. With all the horrible things we supposedly are by your post.....it amazes me how some people are willing to die to get here. It also amazes me that we have such a huge immigration problem. If we go by your logic, then there should be a mass exodus from this horrible, uneducated, unhealthy, dirt road infested, rust-bucket, obese chick populated, culture less society.....but I haven't seen it yet.
Cars: And? Still doesn't make said cars American. Ford is bollox'ed anyway.
Transport: Nothing different to the UK/Europe
Currency: I'm sure you do but that doesn't make me jealous
Culture: A mixture of alien foregin cultures doesn't make it your own.
Education: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres which country is on that list just a little bit too much
Health: Wait 6 months (UK) No insurance? Yeah your gonna die bitch now get your flea infested carcass out of my hospital (US) We pay something called National Insuraace which pays for NHS.
One thing i do like about the US is your massive homes, we get poxy small things here for some obsece price. There you found something.
the only people that are willing to die to get there are the poor and those that want to see if the grass is greener on the other side. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Yeah teeth can be fixed too. We have 3 bands of tax of which i cant remember but top rate is 40%....and tax can be structured so it can be minimised. Depends how good your accountant and lawyer is.The#1Spot wrote:
You can fix obesity but bad teeth is a 1 time shot. You forgot to mention that you guys pay a crap load in taxes. You guys have a much higher homo concentration. You guys get free healthcare but why is your life expectancy still lower than the US? I agree the cars suck here and the food is not that great. There is no established culture because people from all around the world live here so theres a mass amount in mixed culture. The average grades are not very good but our average income is still higher.m3thod wrote:
Make the distinction, we say your government and leader sucks and she does big time.Noobpatty wrote:
Actually no. I'm sick of people saying how America sucks, when it doesn't. What? just because I like America makes me a nationalist?
Just what do you think we are jealous over?
Your food? Yeah, We have hamburgers too and more
Your cars? Don't make me laugh
Your public transport? it's as bad as ours
Your roads? Congested as ours
Your women? Ours have bad teeth and yours are clinically obese
Your currency? Which one do you want to compare Pound Sterling or Euro?
Culture? Please...
Education? Yours is failing miserably not to mention kiddie gun rampages.
Health? We get free health here, how about you?
A lot of people in old europe are mighty pissed off with your country behaviour of late (gee let me think why) their fury is directed at your elected government and people that support them. Invariably lines are blurred but the fact of the matter is if you believe Europeans are 'jealous' of the US....well you keep on believing that.
Cut down the length of the quotes please, or this page is going to be 20 feet of scrolling per page.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
more stuffm3thod wrote:
stuffDeathBecomesYu wrote:
yak yak yak yak yak
Rofl.S.Lythberg wrote:
Cut down the length of the quotes please, or this page is going to be 20 feet of scrolling per page.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
more stuffm3thod wrote:
stuff
True i would concede i made some gross generalisations however, it pars with the 'jealously' card played by our resident Americans.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
Your first post basically was saying that America sucks at everything. Now, what I was trying to point out is that EVERYBODY has the same problems. Some places have better this and that. All countries have their good and bad. You have this, we have that. So what!. Of course we don't have a specific American culture. Because of this diversity, we are exposed to the world daily. The only people that have a true culture based in the United States are the Native Americans. But our history took much of that away from them. Yes, we hear stories of people being turned away at the hospital, but that is rare...very rare. I know that the area I live in...that sort of thing just doesn't happen. Also, i didn't say that America hasn't had school shootings but don't write as if we are the only ones. Your post was a perfect example of why the original poster here got upset. Basically you made general, sweeping negative assumptions over things that happen everywhere in this world but you tried to make it American specific.m3thod wrote:
Food: I used an example of something that is quentisentially American. Do you think i'm a fan of fish and chips?! And cusine from another culture doesn't count.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
Our Food? I do believe that we have more than hamburgers...just think about how many cultures live here.
Our Cars? A lot of foreign car companies build there cars here WITH American labor, Ford just beat out Toyota for tops in Quality
Our Public Transport? Most of us have two or three cars, if not there are taxis, buses, car pools...and they are everywhere.
Our Roads? Congestion in major cities maybe, but this is a big ass country.....more open roads than congestive ones by far.
Our Woman? Obese? Actually i have dated women of all races..white, black, asian....etc. We definitely have a choice because of diversity and I haven't dated a fat woman yet and I have been married twice.
Our Currency? I love my dollars
Our Culture? Which one, this country is a melting pot more than any place in the world, we are exposed to every culture on daily basis, sometimes that is good, sometimes no choice about it.
Our Education? Oh lord.....failing? you are very naive and of course school shootings ONLY happen in the US...NOT!
Our Health System? It may not be free, but I don't have to wait 6 months to see a doctor or get a procedure done. Its not perfect and it may never be free but I live with it, especially because I can buy a 2,500 square foot house with land for $150,000 and get gas for around $3.00 a gallon. Would i like to be screwed on something else(taxes) just to have free health care? I'm happy with what I have right now. Yours may be "free" but don't forget that your government is getting it from you in other ways whether you believe that or not....its not truly free anywhere in this world.
I don't really believe other countries are jealous of us, maybe some people are, but as I said in another post. With all the horrible things we supposedly are by your post.....it amazes me how some people are willing to die to get here. It also amazes me that we have such a huge immigration problem. If we go by your logic, then there should be a mass exodus from this horrible, uneducated, unhealthy, dirt road infested, rust-bucket, obese chick populated, culture less society.....but I haven't seen it yet.
Cars: And? Still doesn't make said cars American. Ford is bollox'ed anyway.
Transport: Nothing different to the UK/Europe
Currency: I'm sure you do but that doesn't make me jealous
Culture: A mixture of alien foregin cultures doesn't make it your own.
Education: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres which country is on that list just a little bit too much
Health: Wait 6 months (UK) No insurance? Yeah your gonna die bitch now get your flea infested carcass out of my hospital (US) We pay something called National Insuraace which pays for NHS.
One thing i do like about the US is your massive homes, we get poxy small things here for some obsece price. There you found something.
the only people that are willing to die to get there are the poor and those that want to see if the grass is greener on the other side. Nothing more, nothing less.
That was my limit...lol...but i have seen far, far worseS.Lythberg wrote:
Cut down the length of the quotes please, or this page is going to be 20 feet of scrolling per page.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
more stuffm3thod wrote:
stuff
What is the maximum lenght of a single post?DeathBecomesYu wrote:
That was my limit...lol...but i have seen far, far worseS.Lythberg wrote:
Cut down the length of the quotes please, or this page is going to be 20 feet of scrolling per page.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
more stuff
This is off-topic, and I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, but it's ironic that if you swap it around, all Chinese restaurants are asian, and perhaps if you swap the American statements around...Noobpatty wrote:
I'm on the edge. I'm about to give in. I'm sick of all you nationalists who say America sucks and say Americans are retarded and can't do this, or that, or shoot, or think. Stop it. I don't want you to praise America. I'm not saying it's the best, but that's what all you ignorant fools say we think. Europe, Asia, Australia, everyone takes their anger out on America. When you talk about Americans, you really can't at all. When you talk about people, talk about the specific people like : "wow THOSE Americans were pretty stupid" or "THAT GROUP of Americans had no idea what they were talking about." I've had people say "The Americans want to kill us all" wtf is wrong with you? that's like saying all Asian restaurants are Chinese.
Here's my summary [for those of you who read the paragraph or who just looked at my location]
Command. And Question. Not two questions. Not two commands.
Stop the nationalism.
Why do you hate America so much?
Maybe all the Americans in the media that you see are portrayed that way, but like I said earlier in this thread, you (not you specifically) can't judge a country until you spend time visiting it and visit many places. I can honestly say I haven't been out of this country yet, but I plan to once I get enough money and graduate college, until then I don't plan on making an incorrect broad generalization of people from other countries.DrunkFace wrote:
1.Arrogance... plain and simple. A lot of Americans are arrogant.
There are countless quotes I was going to point out in this tread supporting this but I really can't be bothered anymore, its not like your going to take any notice anyway.
2. A lot of Americans think they are (or their country is) the centre of the universe. Very similar to arrogance but in a more... We did everything and the world would still be in the stone age without the US, sentiment.
mtb0minime wrote:
Maybe all the Americans in the media that you see are portrayed that way, but like I said earlier in this thread, you (not you specifically) can't judge a country until you spend time visiting it and visit many places. I can honestly say I haven't been out of this country yet, but I plan to once I get enough money and graduate college, until then I don't plan on making an incorrect broad generalization of people from other countries.DrunkFace wrote:
1.Arrogance... plain and simple. A lot of Americans are arrogant.
There are countless quotes I was going to point out in this tread supporting this but I really can't be bothered anymore, its not like your going to take any notice anyway.
2. A lot of Americans think they are (or their country is) the centre of the universe. Very similar to arrogance but in a more... We did everything and the world would still be in the stone age without the US, sentiment.
I'm not saying its all Americans, and I'm not only taking what I see and read from the media, but from Americans I know and what people have said in this thread and in many other on this site and others. It just seems ingrained into American culture that you must be 'better', and many people make wild claims about Americas superiority, and when someone counter argues with proof, its taken as 'America Bashing'.There are countless quotes I was going to point out in this tread supporting this
Fair enough. And I definitely agree that there are Americans who take nationalism way too far and get defensive as soon as someone points out a flaw. It's unfortunate that you know self-righteous Americans like these that give the rest of us a bad nameDrunkFace wrote:
mtb0minime wrote:
Maybe all the Americans in the media that you see are portrayed that way, but like I said earlier in this thread, you (not you specifically) can't judge a country until you spend time visiting it and visit many places. I can honestly say I haven't been out of this country yet, but I plan to once I get enough money and graduate college, until then I don't plan on making an incorrect broad generalization of people from other countries.DrunkFace wrote:
1.Arrogance... plain and simple. A lot of Americans are arrogant.
There are countless quotes I was going to point out in this tread supporting this but I really can't be bothered anymore, its not like your going to take any notice anyway.
2. A lot of Americans think they are (or their country is) the centre of the universe. Very similar to arrogance but in a more... We did everything and the world would still be in the stone age without the US, sentiment.I'm not saying its all Americans, and I'm not only taking what I see and read from the media, but from Americans I know and what people have said in this thread and in many other on this site and others. It just seems ingrained into American culture that you must be 'better', and many people make wild claims about Americas superiority, and when someone counter argues with proof, its taken as 'America Bashing'.There are countless quotes I was going to point out in this tread supporting this
Methinks you wouldn't have had this problem if you hadn't gone on a supersized nationalism and isolationism campaign for 40 years (i.e. cold war)mtb0minime wrote:
Fair enough. And I definitely agree that there are Americans who take nationalism way too far and get defensive as soon as someone points out a flaw. It's unfortunate that you know self-righteous Americans like these that give the rest of us a bad nameDrunkFace wrote:
mtb0minime wrote:
Maybe all the Americans in the media that you see are portrayed that way, but like I said earlier in this thread, you (not you specifically) can't judge a country until you spend time visiting it and visit many places. I can honestly say I haven't been out of this country yet, but I plan to once I get enough money and graduate college, until then I don't plan on making an incorrect broad generalization of people from other countries.I'm not saying its all Americans, and I'm not only taking what I see and read from the media, but from Americans I know and what people have said in this thread and in many other on this site and others. It just seems ingrained into American culture that you must be 'better', and many people make wild claims about Americas superiority, and when someone counter argues with proof, its taken as 'America Bashing'.There are countless quotes I was going to point out in this tread supporting this
I can see what you mean. However, doesn't any country or large group of people have their stereotypical image?DrunkFace wrote:
I'm not saying its all Americans, and I'm not only taking what I see and read from the media, but from Americans I know and what people have said in this thread and in many other on this site and others. It just seems ingrained into American culture that you must be 'better', and many people make wild claims about Americas superiority, and when someone counter argues with proof, its taken as 'America Bashing'.
It's not you as much, it's more like your government.Noobpatty wrote:
Why do you hate America so much?
Most Americans hate are not happy with their government..lol. Just look at both Congress and the Presidents approval ratings.Macca wrote:
It's not you as much, it's more like your government.Noobpatty wrote:
Why do you hate America so much?
Quite a generalization there, since you have not met all tourists, a group of which I am not a member. Check the world and you will see 50-70% of the population may be idiots depending on your characteristics of what that term means. This is also not the 1850s Wild West cowboy *pow* *pow* Rambo John Wayne world either. I can be reasonably sure that well over half of the population in this country does not own any sort of firearm and even fewer of those carry their weapons.d4rkph03n1x wrote:
d4rkph03n1x wrote:
Shut up "American Idiot". Green Day illustrates my opinion perfectly. Example; American Tourists are so freaking "superior", or they pretend to be, in Australia. I guess alot of you are just idiots. Enough said. This obviously doesnt apply to all americans, but alot of them are slack jawed gun toting maniac idiots! Thats not to say that alot of Australians aren't idiots either. But you're idiots.
edit: and to elect such a stupid government is idiotic as well, you idiot heads.
d4rkph03n1x wrote:
Shut up "American Idiot". Green Day illustrates my opinion perfectly. Example; American Tourists are so freaking "superior", or they pretend to be, in Australia. I guess alot of you are just idiots. Enough said. This obviously doesnt apply to all americans, but alot of them are slack jawed gun toting maniac idiots! Thats not to say that alot of Australians aren't idiots either. But you're idiots.Noobpatty wrote:
I'm on the edge. I'm about to give in. I'm sick of all you nationalists who say America sucks and say Americans are retarded and can't do this, or that, or shoot, or think. Stop it. I don't want you to praise America. I'm not saying it's the best, but that's what all you ignorant fools say we think. Europe, Asia, Australia, everyone takes their anger out on America. When you talk about Americans, you really can't at all. When you talk about people, talk about the specific people like : "wow THOSE Americans were pretty stupid" or "THAT GROUP of Americans had no idea what they were talking about." I've had people say "The Americans want to kill us all" wtf is wrong with you? that's like saying all Asian restaurants are Chinese.
Here's my summary [for those of you who read the paragraph or who just looked at my location]
Command. And Question. Not two questions. Not two commands.
Stop the nationalism.
Why do you hate America so much?
