hey no secrets!!!SargeV1.4 wrote:
of ze hebben gewoon de hele scope HUD 1 pixel naar rechts geschoven, zodat het wel mooi uitkomt
lijkt me net iets logischer..
wait nevermind on this thread, i agree with this guyKylieTastic wrote:
B'jesus! I'm always so pissed if I tried to aim down to pixel level the strain would knock me out! Live and die by the random power of beer aimage
Last edited by Marinejuana (2007-06-05 12:27:07)
Yea, but nobody knows exactly how much, but it only really matters for sniper rifiles, since most other guns aren't accurate enough at that range.pvtnoob0071 wrote:
What about bullet drop? Does BF2 have bullet drop over distances? If so how much?
It has to be a wiki, im not a mod who can sticky stuffMarinejuana wrote:
THANK YOU. sticky it, wiki it, people shouldnt be wasting their time being utterly deceived by a game. it should be about reflexes and intelligence, not privileged information.Snake wrote:
Might be worth adding to the bf2s wiki?
This thread isn't even on the first page as i post my reply. You know none of the threads ahead of it contain any information that could touch this thread in usefulness to the average BF2 player.
pvtnoob0071 wrote:
What about bullet drop? Does BF2 have bullet drop over distances? If so how much?
Last edited by JaggedPanther (2007-06-07 17:59:18)
Yea, mine to.JaggedPanther wrote:
And here I thought there were several types of sight randomizations for the entire game???
My PKM for instance favors the lower right hand side. Not where it was shown on this page.
nice1Marinejuana wrote:
You may need to download and zoom in on the images to use them to their full potential. Ever wondered why X, Y, or Z gun sucks? Well it probably doesn't, many of the guns in BF2 have very misleading iron sights. I didn't bother with sniper rifle scopes or the g36e because i really dont feel like encouraging either and i know that todd angelo and jemme already posted marked sniper scopes for these purposes. I wasnt that enthusiastic about including unlocks but since i was curious about a few, i ended up including most of them.
I simply superimposed a screenshot (1280x1024) of each weapon zoomed and unzoomed w photoshop, and then used the straight line tool to draw a full crosshair over the in-game unzoomed crosshair. I can guarantee you that the places I marked are within a pixel of each iron sight "sweet spot."
Assault Rifles
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /m16-1.jpg
M16
Note that you aim way to the right.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … k101-1.jpg
AK101
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … y/ak47.jpg
AK47
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … ey/l85.jpg
L85
Tip of the iron but aim to the right a bit.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … ley/G3.jpg
G3
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /f2000.jpg
F2000
Pistols
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … y/92fs.jpg
92FS
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /qsz92.jpg
QSZ92
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /mr444.jpg
MR444
Notice how high above the iron the sweet spot sits.
SMGs
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … type85.jpg
TYPE85
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … ey/mp5.jpg
MP5
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … y/pp19.jpg
PP19
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … ey/p90.jpg
P90
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /mp7-1.jpg
MP7 (Note this is the only weapon in BF2 with bobbing iron sights, they deviate vertically between 4 pixels)
LMGs
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … type95.jpg
TYPE95
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /rpk74.jpg
RPK74
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … y/m249.jpg
M249
Another weapon that requires aiming well below the target.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … ey/PKM.jpg
PKM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … y/MG36.jpg
MG36
Look how far down the iron the bullets land.
Carbines
Most of the dot sights are pretty screwy
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … ley/M4.jpg
M4
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … qbz-97.jpg
QBZ97
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … /ak74u.jpg
AK74U
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … y/g36c.jpg
G36C
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … SCAR-L.jpg
SCAR-L
I don't feel like posting the G36E one, but i can say its a lot like the MG36. This is a big part of the reason why people that practice on the G36E end up sucking at the AK101 and M16. If you line up an AK101 or M16 exactly the way you would a G36E, then every single shot you fire will go directly over the targets head.Ive posted these numerous times but since they are on topic here, also have a look at these sight pics. The difference is Nero drew them from memory based on what he thinks works best. The main difference you notice is how low he aims the AK101. I also tend to use it this way, and I believe the reason it works is that recoil after your first shot causes the next ones to land further above the labeled "sweet spot," so in reality you want to aim roughly where where Nero marks when you are spamming and go for the spot marked on mine with your first shots. I find the M16 has so much less recoil so that consecutive shots dont appear to cause as much climb and hence Neros drawing shows the placement much lower on the sight than the AK101.Nero wrote:
Sight Screenshots for M16 and AK:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/ … een114.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/ … een112.jpg
With recoil what it is, I suggest referring to neros images for most of your vertical alignment and my images for horizontal alignment.
It has been added to the Wiki ... so thats even better imoSnubya wrote:
Sticky
Snake wrote:
It has to be a wiki, im not a mod who can sticky stuffMarinejuana wrote:
THANK YOU. sticky it, wiki it, people shouldnt be wasting their time being utterly deceived by a game. it should be about reflexes and intelligence, not privileged information.Snake wrote:
Might be worth adding to the bf2s wiki?
This thread isn't even on the first page as i post my reply. You know none of the threads ahead of it contain any information that could touch this thread in usefulness to the average BF2 player.
And so...here she is:
http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/iron-sights
If/when you do the EF/SF weapons, drop me a PM and ill put em on there.
i thought it was the in-game zoomed out cross hair completed them imposed on the iron sight.elite.mafia wrote:
I'm confused... is that red crosshair a hack or is that just photoshop. if so LOL?
Originally it was that, but then I discovered that Dice messed up the unzoomed crosshairs too.Vernedead wrote:
i thought it was the in-game zoomed out cross hair completed them imposed on the iron sight.elite.mafia wrote:
I'm confused... is that red crosshair a hack or is that just photoshop. if so LOL?
They use different images for iron sights so they line up with the center of the screen differently.Titch2349 wrote:
I again have problems with your method of working this out.
I have always believed that the Medic/ Assault guns are the same, but you have shown in your screen shots that they have different places to aim.
Upon looking in the games files, there is only one M16A2, AK-101, and AK-47, so how can they aim differently?
Last edited by Snake (2007-06-08 12:04:10)
Done (I had just accidently not posted the L85a2 screen). If the SU-30 is the one from armored fury, then you can find it along with the J-10 screen (since, turns out, they have identical HUDs). I suppose I could do the EU jets...Snake wrote:
Out of the whole game, there is only 1 (that I can think of) that is missing - and that is the EU's L85A2 (for assault class). And the PLA's bomber (Su-30). Other than that, top notch!
I compared them. they are misaligned in the same way all unzoomed sights are:Snake wrote:
Heres a thought: are the HMG's on the DPV/HMMVW/Tank turrets different to the sights?
Last edited by Marinejuana (2007-06-08 13:01:56)
You really need to get away from infy whoringMarinejuana wrote:
Done (I had just accidently not posted the L85a2 screen). If the SU-30 is the one from armored fury, then you can find it along with the J-10 screen (since, turns out, they have identical HUDs). I suppose I could do the EU jets...Snake wrote:
Out of the whole game, there is only 1 (that I can think of) that is missing - and that is the EU's L85A2 (for assault class). And the PLA's bomber (Su-30). Other than that, top notch!
Hmmm fair enough. Good researchMarinejuana wrote:
I compared them. they are misaligned in the same way all unzoomed sights are:Snake wrote:
Heres a thought: are the HMG's on the DPV/HMMVW/Tank turrets different to the sights?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ … hairs2.png
The 0.50 cal turrets are still easier to aim because crosshairs close more tightly.
Ok all of them are now includedSnake wrote:
Su-30 = PLA vanilla bomber jet (Daqing only) http://wiki.bf2s.com/vehicles/aviator/su-30
Q5 Fantan = PLA AF bomber jet http://wiki.bf2s.com/vehicles/aviator/q5
The only EF jet is the EuroFighter and that has the same HUD as the F15/F35/F/A-18.
Oh, and Ive put the L85A2 onto the wiki (and thats interesting actually as the scope seems fine when I use it )
Last edited by Cerberus666 (2007-06-09 10:00:49)
For the MG36 and MR-444, yes, I think so.killaer wrote:
So what? Who cares? Is anyone really going to bother really adjusting their aim for this?
