BF2S Forums Noobier of the two..battle of the counter-strike games!!!!

Last edited by james@alienware (2007-05-29 11:25:31)

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

burst to legs in source -> headshot.  that's how great hit boxes source has.

deathaspekt wrote:

Alright, let's put this bull shit to rest. No game is better than any other game. You may like a game better than another, but these things are clearly based on opinion. The games are different even if they have the same maps and guns. The individual experiences are as follows:

1.6:
+ Arcadey, fast paced gameplay (Dubed best in world by many)
+ Incredibley diverse community (People are usually just pubbers or LANers)
+ Very casual or very intense play
- Dreadful visuals, sound quality and build
- VAC no longer highly effective...

Source:
+ More realistic, tactical gameplay
+ Amazing engine with superb graphics, sound design, and physics
+ Hugley active community with loads of custom content and mods
- Deemed as of lesser gameplay value than 1.6 (By most who played 1.6 before Source)
- More system straneous, subject to problematic updates

Clearly, 1.6 is far more of an arcadey game with a faster pace while Source's play is more reliant on tactics although skill plays an overwhelming role as well. These games have their own perks and flaws. I enjoy a more tactical, realistic experience (Even as so, quite arcadey) as I enjoy (and am good at) exploiting an enemy team tactically rather than relying completley on my aim. But that is just me, it depends soley on the gamer. Personally, 1.6 got old for me after too many years. That is just me.

DISPELLING IDIOCIES, ROUMERS, AND ACTS AGAINST YOUR BROTHER GAME:

1) "Source takes no/far less skill"
ONLINE GAME. ONLINE. CONTROLLED BY OTHER PEOPLE. This means that it is not the gameplay, rather the players you are playing against. How about you get on a good server? This should be common sense, it is the specific players you are against at the time. Source is what we call less skill leaniant. This means although the more skilled player will win, it will not be by so much. This is because the running speed/walls ect. have been toned down to a more practical pace, making your resources for surviving much lesser and the ease to kill your enemy higher. However, EVEYONE PLAYS WITH THESE MODIFICATIONS INCLUDING YOURSELF, therefore no. We can look at games like Unreal 04 as the most skill leaniant, as the worlds best players almost NEVER die at all.

2) "Everyone hacks in X"
No. Play a better server or private, or god forbid just boot the kid.

3) "1.6 sucks because of the graphics"
You are a graphics whore. You would play a pony game if it were in DX10. GAMEPLAY is the main aspect of any game (Although visuals do help with the gameplay).

4) "Source is just spray pray"
CS:S source code, weapons.ak.dll, line 62
int fire_raddi == .76^.12&11

CS 1.6 source code, weapons.ak.dll, line 40
int fire_raddi == .80^12&10

See for yourself. The entire thing is this all across the map. Although the Source guns have a slightly more narrow maximum spray diamater, the 1.6 guns are more consistent, meaning you can more accuratley deliver at higher rates of fire. In the end, they are mathematically balanced, what Valve had intended, a mathematical similarity with different variables substituted in.

5) "Source's purpose was HL2 graphics /w 1.6 gameplay, so it failed"
No, that was not the purpose, if it were that is what we would have. I am sick of devs releasing annual updates of pretty much the same exact game with better graphics and sound and maybe an extra feture. So was Valve. This is why they made it an entirley new game in and of itself rather than just a 1.7. And you know what? 1.6 is still there, too. Amazing.

6) Act: Lying to attack a ****ing videogame...
This happend quite a lot, and I always find it painfully obvious. People are actually making up fake stories and claims to attack another video game or defend their own. This is the ultimate idiocy. We saw this in this thread as Rockraven, someone had before indispicably stated that he had played 1.6 out, now stated for some reason that he wanted to just now buy 1.6, and made a stupid excuse about pretending to make someone cry onto their mic. Please, stop, all of you.

Who cares what game you play? When you tell of how you ripped up B tunnels with an AK, everyone knows what you are talking about. When you talk about fishing double doors with an AWP and nailing three CTs on their way to B site from T spawn, we all get it. It does not matter what game you play because it starts with Counter-Strike, and ends with some kickass fun.