BF2S Forums This guy pretty much said it all.

fadedsteve wrote:

Nail on head anyone!! Summed up very eloquently/correctly in a British accent!!

Cheers to you Pat Condell!!!

lol whats to debate???? He "pwned" Islam pure and simple!!

I take it you have watched his other videos

Ridir wrote:

Religion gives people meaning Cameron, without it what would they live for and what would hold people back from doing horrible things to one another, knowing that sure they can be punished in this life once or twice but after they die nothing else can happen to them.

Religion is not what hold most people back from doing something they should do. People don't go, "Oh, if I murder this man, I'll go to hell." They go, "Oh, if I murder this man, I'm gonna get thrown in jail, get anally violated for years, and possibly get killed."

Besides, if your fundamental evangelical, you can murder people right and left, and as long as you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior right before you die, you automatically go to Heaven.

This guy really does just fucking win. At not just life, but everything.

Have you seen his stance on America videos?

"Iraq is proof you can take a horse to water but you can't make it suck your cock"

Man i nearly wet myself.

is he Richard Dawkins twin brother

look at the quality of the video responses, this man is clearly educated.

Great reply lol...

that guy is the shit.

He isnt necessarily racist but he is definitely ethnocentric.

He talks as if colonialism never happened. He's like a white guy in the US acting like slavery never happened. Or some German that acts like nobody tried to exterminate the minorities. Its scary because at this very moment in history, very little goes on outside of the media involving muslim tensions in western countries. sure a terrorist attack happens now and again. But every single day there are US, European, and Australian killing machines parked all over muslim countries, and here this guy is persuading u all to believe that somehow the issue is whether or not we should tolerate their behavior in our own countries. OMFG has anybody else's head asploded with irony yet? The scary thing about all these dark moments in history is that we see them as historical. in reality people are being rammed up the ass today as badly as ever. we just have new zoning rules and terms for all of it. it basically goes: since we dont have slaves, we have illegal aliens and third world industry instead.

You dont actually think your hard work at the office somehow makes the glass in your windows, or the rubber in your shoes do you? Nope, people working shit jobs, mainly in other countries, or immigrants in our biggest cities do all of the difficult, dangerous and critical work. We mostly farm with machines and migrant workers. If you are born a white Westerner, you have a free ride. You can be a complete moron, do nothing important, but as long as you show up to your job you will get a pay check and some benefits. Good luck finding a doctor in your bombed out afghanistani village. maybe you could pan for russian and american lead to sell back as raw materials?

Its very easy to sit in your upper middle class British home, wearing your sweater vest and little glasses, talking about how nobody can manage to act as civilized as you do. Maybe if he wasnt wiping his ass with magically soft toilet paper woven from egyptian cotton hand-woven in a pakistani sweatshop, he wouldnt have the comfort to reflect on his culture's highly advanced and overly tolerant nature.

If you are going to give people from abroad such a hard time, you should at least realize that you probably wouldnt cut it where they come from. u probably would have died as a baby becuase u are too weak. These kinds of thoughts dont even begin to penetrate the mind of the self-assured biggot.

And muslim nations are no more violent than any other nations. We just cant expect anybody to be peaceful when we are blowing things up in their neighbors yard with apache helicopters. Desperate people in any culture can be brought to violence. But a terrorist is an individual. sort of like the unibomber. Maybe we should have turned the unibombers town into a full scale warzone after he commited his crime? i wonder how those townspeople would act after maybe a 30 generations of living with that oppression. I wonder if its as bad as wearing a veil all the time?

He should come to the US or australia if he wants to see violent white guys. but then im sure they are in britain too, but he is too racist to notice. I would bet that the rate of white guys shooting each other in the US is higher than the rate of muslims killing british people. and the muslims do it to retaliate against years of oppression. in america it happens when we are drunk.

I honestly dont see why this guy is trying to make moral judgements of cultures and religions. Its like Britain doesnt commit an obvious crime against humanity for a hundred years or something so he starts talking as if some cultures are better than others.

I'm adding him to my list of people that will be reincarnated as slaves.

Last edited by Marinejuana (2007-05-30 10:49:37)

I love to see this guy debate with Galloway

Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2007-05-30 10:47:30)

mtb0minime wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

The guy in the video mentions something about how Islam claims to be a religion of peace, yet it isn't. Coincidentally, there was an article today in my college newspaper about how a group of Pro-Israel students in their club want to co-sponsor events and help out the students groups that are pro-Palestine. Even though the Palestine groups claim to want "peaceful coexistence" they continually turn down the Israeli groups for having peaceful debates or co-sponsoring events that show both perspectives. Seems to me that the Palestinian (or greater Islam) idea of "peace" is destroy everyone until they believe what you do. This is exactly why I'm pro-Israel, at least they make the effort to bring peace.

You are sooooo wrong. You should go there. It will open your eyes man. The Israelis are every bit as averse to peace as hardliners on the Palestinian side. Continuing to build settlements unabated on Palestinian land is proof positive that the Israelis have never truly wanted peace.

Do a little bit of research before endorsing human rights abusers.

Well I don't plan on visiting the middle east any time soon, and I have to base my opinion on what I've seen and heard, though it may not be as much as you apparently have. But around here, seems like one group is trying to take steps forward when another is holding back and preventing progress.


And I'd also like to add that by telling me I'm wrong only shows your ignorance. It's not a matter of right and wrong, it's a matter of opinion. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean either of us are right or wrong. So please, take your liberal hippy shit elsewhere and respect other people's beliefs.

Better to be a liberal hippy who can see the truth as opposed to being a dipshit conservative who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Seriously, is the best people can come up with these days 'you damn liberal' Liberals are the ones who have kept this country moving forward. Not to mention the 'liberal' agitators that fought for things like an equal footing for immigrants, women, and minorities. Just because you obviously buy into whats presented to you in the media instead of reading and understanding for your fracking self makes you the ignorant one. Also, you really shouldn't confuse any democrat cept maybe Kucinich with a liberal. They are merely the other party complicit in completely ignoring the American People.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberals#L … _democracy
Do some reading and come back and talk to us.

This guy has got it just right
+1 for you cougar for the find