Flecco
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DesertFox- wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Yay, another rant about religion.  Zzzzzz.  I'm going to play some Project Reality.
Why post then? Isn't it a well known fact that fanatical faith and organised religion are two of humanities main barriers toward progress?

As far as I can see the rants are justified.
I wouldn't say that is a fact nor is it well known. Religious intolerance, in my opinion, is by far the largest obstacle to progress and peace in this here world.
Religious intolerance is caused by, encouraged and spread by organised religion as is fanatical faith. Organised religion is a political tool, as history demonstrates. Fanatical faith is manipulated by religious leaders (Popes that have called for crusades ect...) for political purposes (get rich, seize land...). Examples of this can be found for any religion that becomes political. Catholic Church, Islam as a whole (system of government my arse), those dodgy "pay money for your salvation" churches in America.... As crappy as South Park has gotten, one of the best episodes I've ever seen was the one where Cartman set up a church.... To get rich. It worked. For a while anyway.

It is an arguable hypothesis that organised, centralised, politicised religion is a danger to society and progress. I would write an essay on the subject over a six month period proving this but with the amount of shit I have for school at the moment I can't be bothered.

Lmao, Chipmunk... I'm going to download my brain into a massive server then become a virus on teh intarnats! Sif die...
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
mkxiii
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lol at neo-paganism. wtf???

also, if someone told me that there are over twice as many christians as atheists, i would tell them that they are talking out of their ass.  people classify them as christians and do jack shit about going to church and other religious shit.  they're just trying to back both horses just in case religion isnt a load of shit.
Snake
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FFLink13 wrote:

Where's Jedi?
lmao! I remember that. Correct me if Im wrong, but wasn't it for the Census or something? If enough people put it down as their "religion", then the state would have to make it an official religion in the UK.
jord
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People who hate people who follow a religion are as bad as people who hate other religions.

I can't see why you get angry at people who hope that there is something more than ceasing to exist, that there is another path.

I'm not sure what i am, i have no strong belief there is a God and i should pray to him. I do like to hope there is something though, because if people really thought there is nothing more than life then they'd go ahead and kill themselves right now.
nlsme
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Atheism is not a religion. And if half the original post wasn't mistyped, I wouldn't have thought it was written by a 12 yr old, and would have paid it more mind.
lxcpikiman
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is atheism a religion?
what do atheists believe in?
nlsme
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mkxiii wrote:

lol at neo-paganism. wtf???

also, if someone told me that there are over twice as many christians as atheists, i would tell them that they are talking out of their ass.  people classify them as christians and do jack shit about going to church and other religious shit.  they're just trying to back both horses just in case religion isnt a load of shit.
You must be reading the chart with you arse then .And btw, just because you believe in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a church. It goes both ways, someone could be a church going person every day of his life, and not truly believe.
mkxiii
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imo theres nothing wrong with believing in religion. its a good thing, it gives people strength when they need it most, when they lose someone, are dieing themselves, or just need guidance.  i just hate people who put down a religion on a census form when they arent religious at all
Idlewild
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I don't see Jedi Knights anywhere (I'm not one)
mkxiii
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nlsme wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

lol at neo-paganism. wtf???

also, if someone told me that there are over twice as many christians as atheists, i would tell them that they are talking out of their ass.  people classify them as christians and do jack shit about going to church and other religious shit.  they're just trying to back both horses just in case religion isnt a load of shit.
You must be reading the chart with you arse then .And btw, just because you believe in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a church. It goes both ways, someone could be a church going person every day of his life, and not truly believe.
i was reading the percentages if you are talking about he fact that i said "there are over twice as many christians as atheists", and what i mean is when you ask half the people who put down christian on a census form if they believe in god they say no, they just put it for appearances sake
nlsme
Member
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mkxiii wrote:

nlsme wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

lol at neo-paganism. wtf???

also, if someone told me that there are over twice as many christians as atheists, i would tell them that they are talking out of their ass.  people classify them as christians and do jack shit about going to church and other religious shit.  they're just trying to back both horses just in case religion isnt a load of shit.
You must be reading the chart with you arse then .And btw, just because you believe in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a church. It goes both ways, someone could be a church going person every day of his life, and not truly believe.
i was reading the percentages if you are talking about he fact that i said "there are over twice as many christians as atheists", and what i mean is when you ask half the people who put down christian on a census form if they believe in god they say no, they just put it for appearances sake
And you know this how? No offense but you have nothing to back up this theory. However, my post earlier slightly backs this up, There are many people that are dedicated to the church, but are no better then your average criminal. Look at all the mafia of the past. Every one of them claimed to be a "god fearing catholic", but lived their lives on the other end of the scale. However you have many people who beleive in go, but cannot accept the church as the way to salvation.(MYSELF INCLUDED)
mkxiii
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nlsme wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

nlsme wrote:


You must be reading the chart with you arse then .And btw, just because you believe in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a church. It goes both ways, someone could be a church going person every day of his life, and not truly believe.
i was reading the percentages if you are talking about he fact that i said "there are over twice as many christians as atheists", and what i mean is when you ask half the people who put down christian on a census form if they believe in god they say no, they just put it for appearances sake
And you know this how? No offense but you have nothing to back up this theory. However, my post earlier slightly backs this up, There are many people that are dedicated to the church, but are no better then your average criminal. Look at all the mafia of the past. Every one of them claimed to be a "god fearing catholic", but lived their lives on the other end of the scale. However you have many people who beleive in go, but cannot accept the church as the way to salvation.(MYSELF INCLUDED)
i know this because i have asked people/people have asked me through the course of general conversation.  over the years i have discovered that few of the people i know believe in god, and there are a few more who are borderline, with the rest being non-believers through lack of a better phrase.  even so, i know that the majority of them class themselves as 'church of england' on a census form.  i found this out as i was interested as to why people put it, and many say it is just they feel it is better than putting nothing.  does that help back up my theory at all??
ghettoperson
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CommieChipmunk wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

It's nice to see my beliefs are better than everyone else's.
You're neurons will stop firing the day you die the exact same way mine will when I die; and after that, beliefs are irrelevant... you just cease to exist.
More people agree with me than you, so I guess I win. We live in a democracy after all.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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jord wrote:

People who hate people who follow a religion are as bad as people who hate other religions.

I can't see why you get angry at people who hope that there is something more than ceasing to exist, that there is another path.
Stupidity pisses me off is all.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
CommieChipmunk
Member
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ghettoperson wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

It's nice to see my beliefs are better than everyone else's.
You're neurons will stop firing the day you die the exact same way mine will when I die; and after that, beliefs are irrelevant... you just cease to exist.
More people agree with me than you, so I guess I win. We live in a democracy after all.
Regardless, when you die.. you cease to exist.

The difference, I can do neat stuff with my Sunday mornings.
Mitch
16 more years
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CommieChipmunk wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:


You're neurons will stop firing the day you die the exact same way mine will when I die; and after that, beliefs are irrelevant... you just cease to exist.
More people agree with me than you, so I guess I win. We live in a democracy after all.
Regardless, when you die.. you cease to exist.

The difference, I can do neat stuff with my Sunday mornings.
Lol!
BURNED!
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Hurricane
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ghettoperson wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

It's nice to see my beliefs are better than everyone else's.
You're neurons will stop firing the day you die the exact same way mine will when I die; and after that, beliefs are irrelevant... you just cease to exist.
More people agree with me than you, so I guess I win. We live in a democracy after all.
No no ghetto... there are some countries that.. that.. are communist =S
Mitch
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Ganko_06 wrote:

Dezert are you an evangelical atheist?  Every week you create a post to try to convince everyone on the forums that all religion is evil and destructive.  I laugh at the hypocrisy.
Yeah, i guess i am.
hypocrisy? Not even close.

When i convert someone to Atheism i save there sole from a life of mislead beliefs.
Now, i believe that converting 1 person wont do anything for the world, but converting the world to Atheism would be great.

Atheism is the ONLY religion that is safe for massive groups to believe in.

^That would make a great quote for a sig^
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Havok
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Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Atheism is the ONLY religion that is safe for massive groups to believe in.

^That would make a great quote for a sig^
... Except atheism isn't a religion...
Mitch
16 more years
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Havok wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Atheism is the ONLY religion that is safe for massive groups to believe in.

^That would make a great quote for a sig^
... Except atheism isn't a religion...
Well, then whats a good word for it that would sound good in that quote?
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Des.Kmal
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Dezerteagal5 wrote:

part one

Now, your standing there as a Christian, telling me that YOURS is the correct one? THE ONLY shred of proof you have is

1. A book
2. The sheer number of followers

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
part  two

See folks, its all bullshit, the sooner you know the better off you'll be! I hope i've persuaded atleast 1 person in this writting.
part one
dude... since when does proof have to be there? proof is for people with no faith. i heard this story once:

a teacher was teaching an elemenraty class one day and someone mentioned Christianity. she got mad and asked the little boy to come to the front of the room and look out the window. she said, "tommy, do u see the clouds? the ground? the trees?" he answered yes to all of them. she then asked him if he saw God. he replied no. she then said, "my point exactly. he isnt there, cuz we cant see him and have no proof."

a little girl in the back of the room asked if she could say something to tommy. the teacher said yes and the little girl went to the front of the room and asked tommy if he could see the teacher. he responded yes. she then asked if he could see the teachers brain. he said no. so i guess the teacher doesnt have a brain.

thats kinda what youre saying eagal, but stretched just a little.

also... you saying atheism is corrent is JUST as correct as me saying Christianity is correct. YOU have no proof either for or against God or Christianity, or ANY religion.

part two
why the fuck do you care what people do with their life? why do you wanna PERSUADE someone to be athiest? that BAFFLES me. it really does.

PS. I hope i persuaded one person in my writing.
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Hurricane
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Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Havok wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Atheism is the ONLY religion that is safe for massive groups to believe in.

^That would make a great quote for a sig^
... Except atheism isn't a religion...
Well, then whats a good word for it that would sound good in that quote?
Belief.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6531|South Florida

Des.Kmal wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

part one

Now, your standing there as a Christian, telling me that YOURS is the correct one? THE ONLY shred of proof you have is

1. A book
2. The sheer number of followers

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
part  two

See folks, its all bullshit, the sooner you know the better off you'll be! I hope i've persuaded atleast 1 person in this writting.
part one
dude... since when does proof have to be there? proof is for people with no faith. i heard this story once:

a teacher was teaching an elemenraty class one day and someone mentioned Christianity. she got mad and asked the little boy to come to the front of the room and look out the window. she said, "tommy, do u see the clouds? the ground? the trees?" he answered yes to all of them. she then asked him if he saw God. he replied no. she then said, "my point exactly. he isnt there, cuz we cant see him and have no proof."

a little girl in the back of the room asked if she could say something to tommy. the teacher said yes and the little girl went to the front of the room and asked tommy if he could see the teacher. he responded yes. she then asked if he could see the teachers brain. he said no. so i guess the teacher doesnt have a brain.

thats kinda what youre saying eagal, but stretched just a little.

also... you saying atheism is corrent is JUST as correct as me saying Christianity is correct. YOU have no proof either for or against God or Christianity, or ANY religion.

part two
why the fuck do you care what people do with their life? why do you wanna PERSUADE someone to be athiest? that BAFFLES me. it really does.

PS. I hope i persuaded one person in my writing.
Lol well your wrong, I have lots of proof that god is not real.

1. Laws of physics, and the basic idea of how stuff works prooves that
  A. Magic, like "god" has, cannot exist
  B. There are no magical beings whom can create stuff out of nothing. The shear though of it should be enough to make you laugh.

2. When you say "We don't need proof, we have faith" Your saying "I don't need facts, i just believe cause i want it to be real"
  A. Thats absolutly rediculous, every single thing you hear, see, and learn about in life you need facts to tell you whether its real or bullshit, if i come up to you and say "Someone found a 10,000 pound tiger in the middle of the jungle" You'll say "Show me some proof"


All common sense tells you god is fake, but all fear tells you god is real.
And we know fear is unlimited but common sense has a limit. Therefore, fear of death overwhelms your common sense thus you join the 2.3billion other newbs who believe in god.

kthxbi
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We almost made it onto the pie chart.


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Why do atheists always have to try to recruit religious people? It seems the religious are happier anyway, as they are content to let people believe what they want. While the atheists have an urge to go around and try to recruit people. At least on this forum anyway.

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