Soldiers don't care about killing civilians? NO WAI!!!!

2007-05-04 19:25:27

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Sanjaya: Banned; +40|6236

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18496711/

AP wrote:
WASHINGTON - In a survey of U.S. troops in combat in Iraq, fewer than half of Marines and a little more than half of Army soldiers said they would report a member of their unit for killing or wounding an innocent civilian.

More than 40 percent support the idea of torture in some cases, and 10 percent reported personally abusing Iraqi civilians, the Pentagon said Friday in what it called its first ethics study of troops at the war front. Units exposed to the most combat were chosen for the study, officials said.

Now shall we play the stereotype game akin to the Muslims?

2007-05-04 19:25:56

#2

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

Would you tell on your brother?

2007-05-04 19:27:07

#3

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|6765|United States of America

usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?

The one who may have saved your life in the past?

2007-05-04 19:27:09

#4

Sanjaya: Banned; +40|6236

usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?

I'm glad you're no longer active duty.

2007-05-04 19:27:34

#5

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

Sanjaya wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
I'm glad you're no longer active duty.

Try and answer the question.

2007-05-04 19:27:50

#6

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|6579|Portland, OR, USA

usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?

For killing an innocent human being? Fuck yes I would tell on him, but I know that he's more intelligent than that.

would you tell on your brother, jesus.. give me a break.

2007-05-04 19:28:06

#7

Parker: isteal; +1,452|6404|The Gem Saloon

do you want to stereotype soldiers?

soldiers are trained to not shoot civilians, ROE. if it happens, it is unfortunate, but they call it war, not happy fucking fun time.

2007-05-04 19:28:57

#8

ThaReaper: Banned; +410|6649

CommieChipmunk wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
For killing an innocent human being? Fuck yes I would tell on him, but I know that he's more intelligent than that.

would you tell on your brother, jesus.. give me a break.

in the military other soldiers are like brothers to you. If you made a ton of good friends you know you wouldn't tell on them, even if you say you would.

2007-05-04 19:29:06

#9

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

CommieChipmunk wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
For killing an innocent human being? Fuck yes I would tell on him, but I know that he's more intelligent than that.

would you tell on your brother, jesus.. give me a break.

Easy for you to say. I would. But very easy for you to say.

2007-05-04 19:29:42

#10

Sanjaya: Banned; +40|6236

usmarine2005 wrote:
Sanjaya wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
I'm glad you're no longer active duty.
Try and answer the question.

As Chipmunk said, I would. If you're going to let rape and murder slide, you're pretty fucked up too.

2007-05-04 19:30:49

#11

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

Sanjaya wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Sanjaya wrote:

I'm glad you're no longer active duty.
Try and answer the question.
As Chipmunk said, I would. If you're going to let rape and murder slide, you're pretty fucked up too.

I wouldn't let it slide. But how many people get away with things because of friends and family?

2007-05-04 19:31:17

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m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6681|UK

Absolute failures. How can you people can win hearts and mind when you perceive the indigenous population as Untermensch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

Not so different from the Nazis are we?

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2007-05-04 19:32:13

#13

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

m3thod wrote:
Absolute failures. How can you people can win hearts and mind when you perceive the indigenous population as Untermensch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

Not so different from the Nazis are we?

Right. Isolated cases of idiots compared to mass murder....right on.

2007-05-04 19:32:32

#14

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|6579|Portland, OR, USA

usmarine2005 wrote:
CommieChipmunk wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
For killing an innocent human being? Fuck yes I would tell on him, but I know that he's more intelligent than that.

would you tell on your brother, jesus.. give me a break.
Easy for you to say. I would. But very easy for you to say.

Yes it is easy for me to say, I have a pretty well tuned moral compass.

But I understand your point. I hope to god I never have to be put in that situation -- whether it be with my own brother or if I ever end up in the military

2007-05-04 19:33:56

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|6767|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?

I wouldn't tell on my brother, but I would tell on another soldier if he committed a crime against human rights.

2007-05-04 19:35:06

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m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6681|UK

usmarine2005 wrote:
m3thod wrote:
Absolute failures. How can you people can win hearts and mind when you perceive the indigenous population as Untermensch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

Not so different from the Nazis are we?
Right. Isolated cases of idiots compared to mass murder....right on.

"About half would report killing of innocent civilians; 10 percent admit abuse"

Isolated?! Right on my brothers.

Failures.

edit

oh the mass murder....depends which survey you wanna take you info from *cough* Lancet *cough*

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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2007-05-04 19:35:39

#17

ThaReaper: Banned; +410|6649

sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
I wouldn't tell on my brother, but I would tell on another soldier if he committed a crime against human rights.

Iraq is still in the stone age technology wise, they don't contribute to the world at all. I haven't ever heard of an Iraqi inventing anything.

Last edited by thareaper254 (2007-05-04 19:35:54)

2007-05-04 19:36:16

#18

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

m3thod wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
m3thod wrote:
Absolute failures. How can you people can win hearts and mind when you perceive the indigenous population as Untermensch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

Not so different from the Nazis are we?
Right. Isolated cases of idiots compared to mass murder....right on.
"About half would report killing of innocent civilians; 10 percent admit abuse"

Isolated?! Right on my brothers.

Failures.

*would*

Hasn't happened in mass quantities to say the least. kthx.

2007-05-04 19:36:56

#19

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|6767|Argentina

thareaper254 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Would you tell on your brother?
I wouldn't tell on my brother, but I would tell on another soldier if he committed a crime against human rights.
Iraq is still in the stone age technology wise, they don't contribute to the world at all. I haven't ever heard of an Iraqi inventing anything. They aren't really humans in a sense.

And talking about racism...

2007-05-04 19:37:46

#20

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6681|UK

usmarine2005 wrote:
m3thod wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:

Right. Isolated cases of idiots compared to mass murder....right on.
"About half would report killing of innocent civilians; 10 percent admit abuse"

Isolated?! Right on my brothers.

Failures.
*would*

Hasn't happened in mass quantities to say the least. kthx.

10% of the force is isolated?

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2007-05-04 19:38:57

#21

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

m3thod wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
m3thod wrote:

"About half would report killing of innocent civilians; 10 percent admit abuse"

Isolated?! Right on my brothers.

Failures.
*would*

Hasn't happened in mass quantities to say the least. kthx.
10% of the force is isolated?

Abuse is not mass murder lass time I checked. And the people who abuse, fuck them to hell IMO.

2007-05-04 19:39:57

#22

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|6767|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:
m3thod wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:

*would*

Hasn't happened in mass quantities to say the least. kthx.
10% of the force is isolated?
Abuse is not mass murder lass time I checked. And the people who abuse, fuck them to hell IMO.

So, you would tell on your "brother".

2007-05-04 19:40:11

#23

ThaReaper: Banned; +410|6649

sergeriver wrote:
thareaper254 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
I wouldn't tell on my brother, but I would tell on another soldier if he committed a crime against human rights.
Iraq is still in the stone age technology wise, they don't contribute to the world at all. I haven't ever heard of an Iraqi inventing anything. They aren't really humans in a sense.
And talking about racism...

I'm not trying to be racist, it is true, Iraq hasen't contributed to the world at all, and if you show me proof that they invented something useful I will shut my mouth and take back everything I've said.

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2007-05-04 19:41:25

#24

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6771

sergeriver wrote:
So, you would tell on your "brother".

Yep. I won't let anyone disgrace my Marine Corps without being called to the carpet. However, I can understand the dilemma. I can also understand this poll is mainly a bunch a dudes talking tough.

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2007-05-04 19:42:32

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|6767|Argentina

thareaper254 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
thareaper254 wrote:

Iraq is still in the stone age technology wise, they don't contribute to the world at all. I haven't ever heard of an Iraqi inventing anything. They aren't really humans in a sense.
And talking about racism...
I'm not trying to be racist, it is true, Iraq hasen't contributed to the world at all, and if you show me proof that they invented something useful I will shut my mouth and take back everything I've said.

The Tigris and the Euphrates, do you remember history? Between those rivers the first civilizations emerged.

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