=OBS= EstebanRey
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In another thread some guy was talking about the BNP and how they had some good policies.  He obviously got flammed (and banned I think) for being racist.  So, I went on their site, found the most racist bit of their manifesto and here are their policies on multi-culturism.  But how many of them are you prepared to admit you agree with?

nazi..I mean BNP wrote:

Our proposals:

1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain .

2. We would abolish all targets and quotas for ethnic representation in all areas of employment, public and private.

3. We would abolish all politically-correct indoctrination of the police, teachers, and other public employees.

4. We would abolish all government-sponsored ethnicity-specific professional bodies, housing associations, and other organisations.

5.  We would abolish all departments, agencies, or other units of government whose sole and specific purpose is to deal with ethnic issues, grievances, or crimes.  Such organisations deliberately seek out the maximum quantity of "racism" in order to justify their own existence and expand their power and budgets.  The law is the law and must be enforced equally upon all without being politicised over ethnic differences.

6. We would abolish all laws against racial discrimination in employment and the government bodies associated with enforcing them.

7. Except for purposes of teaching foreign languages to native speakers of English, the only languages permitted in official documents, government business, and schools will be English, Scots, and Welsh. The use of other languages by ethnic minorities in their own homes, school and institutions will also be encouraged.

8. A Clause 28-style proscription against the promotion of racial integration in schools and the media would be introduced.

9. In order to make it clear that the “celebration of diversity” is something in which the native peoples of our islands can share, each of our traditional Saints Days would be made Public Holidays in the nations in question, with Trafalgar Day being an additional Public Holiday throughout the entire UK.

10. A massively-funded and permanent programme, using and doubling Britain's current foreign aid budget, will aim to reduce, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of ethnic origin, the proportion of ethnic minorities living in Britain, for as long as the majority of the electorate are willing to fund such expenditure. Since the chief impact of such a programme would be the assistance it would render to Developing Countries in the Third World, this is described further in Section 16 – Britain and the World.

11. While accepting the right of law-abiding minorities, in our country because they or their ancestors came here legally, to remain here and to enjoy the full protection of the law against any form of harassment or hostility, we will also seek to emphasise the importance of the prior status of the aboriginal people. This would be a national extension of the ‘Sons and Daughters' policy in priority on housing and school places lists which BNP councils seek to implement at local level.
I agree with,
2. Because ethnic targets are racist themselves.
3. Maybe!  I don't think Police should have to take their shoes off when they enter a Muslim's house if that's what they mean.
4. For the same reason as 2.
5. Their argument sold me on that one.
7. Go to Oxford Boys School, all it's signs are in English and Urdu.  I think you're free to come here but you should learn the language whilst your here and not expect the country to adapt to your needs (some exclusions to that rule).
9. Because I want more time off work.

The rest are just sick, quite frankly.  But does this mean that we can't even discuss the others?  Don't get me wrong, they are and always will be totally unelectable but should other parties not look at some of their non-all out Nazi polices if they start winning seats in the UK?

Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2007-05-03 17:15:39)

Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
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There are a few things that make sense and would help end racism, but many things are over the top.
Ninja_Monkey
I TK For Blackhawks
+60|6848|UK
some of thier stuff is ok but to be honest thier coming from a racist view point so i won't agree with them
Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6628|Twyford, UK
They propose to ship everybody out of britain. EVERYBODY. Britain has no native people. It's a goddamn island, everyone's descended from some invasion or another.
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7059|UK
No I don't agree with any of them because if they took over the country would collapse when they deport all the legal immigrants therefore the people who do the lower paid jobs and it would topple inwards from there.

I can't see too many of our "indigenous" population finishing their A-levels/Degrees to go mop floors at Burger King.

If I remember correctly the BNP was founded by a guy from the National Front go figure.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6688|North Carolina

BNP wrote:

Our proposals:

1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain .

2. We would abolish all targets and quotas for ethnic representation in all areas of employment, public and private.

3. We would abolish all politically-correct indoctrination of the police, teachers, and other public employees.

4. We would abolish all government-sponsored ethnicity-specific professional bodies, housing associations, and other organisations.

5.  We would abolish all departments, agencies, or other units of government whose sole and specific purpose is to deal with ethnic issues, grievances, or crimes.  Such organisations deliberately seek out the maximum quantity of "racism" in order to justify their own existence and expand their power and budgets.  The law is the law and must be enforced equally upon all without being politicised over ethnic differences.

7. Except for purposes of teaching foreign languages to native speakers of English, the only languages permitted in official documents, government business, and schools will be English, Scots, and Welsh. The use of other languages by ethnic minorities in their own homes, school and institutions will also be encouraged.

9. In order to make it clear that the “celebration of diversity” is something in which the native peoples of our islands can share, each of our traditional Saints Days would be made Public Holidays in the nations in question, with Trafalgar Day being an additional Public Holiday throughout the entire UK.
I'm in agreement with all of the above.... (in reference to the American equivalents).

The stuff I left out is what I disagree with.
DooM
Member
+28|6590
Lets see:

1) This means that how freedom of speach is unfair, for example you call an arab a "paki" then its racist, if they call you whitey or honkey its not racist. They want to appeal to make it more equal, it isn't equal in the UK imo.

2)Well basically it sounds like affirmative action, discrimitative, yes. BNP you can call them nazis or whatever other immature comments, but they are standing up for their country and their rights. Now this is the same policy that is currently in action in South Africa, oh but thats not racist is it?

3) Well its a little vague but im getting the sense that its suggesting the racial selection, like forces and companies often are presurized to hire more immigrant workers or they could receive a bad image. BNP wants to remove that so companies can hire anyone (with the right qualifications etc) no matter their race or whatever.

4) This is fine imo. Right now basically Asylum Seekers get free housing which comes out of peoples taxes, the people don't want them to come here and get free housing, I'd rather it went into education and health.

5) Very true again, Law is the law their should not be any exceptions for race or what not which usually does(can) happen. Everyone should be equal and face the same penalty for the exact crime, no exemptions for race or what not.

6) This is also fine, affirmative action relating to that and you can see, it is wrong for a company to say yes to say a black person and no to a white person they have the exact same qualifications, suit etc but the company manager has been presurized to hire the black.

7) Well this makes sense it clearly suggests that the party wants the UK to keep its roots, in all honesty the UK is drifting away from its roots. Its like if your at work and everyone is speaking in arabic for example you would feel like your not even in your own country, and all workers SHOULD speak english, I hate going into a store and spending 20 mins trying to do hand signals to help them understand as they don't speak english.

8) The claus-28 act made sense as promoting homophobia is not right imo. But promoting race, not sure in what terms but proscription meaning serious penatly, meaning racial insightment? or hatrid? again a bit vague, but I'd have to look further into this one.

9) Again relating to roots, it shows clearly that they want to bring the nations traditions back, personally I don't see anything wrong with this, perfectly fine.

10) In other words encourage them to go back. It sounds like its "racist" but their going to re-settle them, I don't know how but still this could benefit for the 3rd world countries at the same time.

11) Need to read up on that.

"The rest are just sick"

Are you white?

Last edited by DooM (2007-05-03 17:52:11)

DooM
Member
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Milk.org wrote:

No I don't agree with any of them because if they took over the country would collapse when they deport all the legal immigrants therefore the people who do the lower paid jobs and it would topple inwards from there.

I can't see too many of our "indigenous" population finishing their A-levels/Degrees to go mop floors at Burger King.

If I remember correctly the BNP was founded by a guy from the National Front go figure.
Thats his choice though, his father took him to that. He isn't stupid either has a degree in history and law.
DooM
Member
+28|6590

Skorpy-chan wrote:

They propose to ship everybody out of britain. EVERYBODY. Britain has no native people. It's a goddamn island, everyone's descended from some invasion or another.
You need to read. They would double foreign policy and provide them with homes in their original country which hence benefits that country. Works or not you've just taken it as a complete bs statement, no one would have that in their policies.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7041|Argentina
I don't know.  Why are we talking about these assholes?

BNP wrote:

Both the BNP and its leader, Nick Griffin, have historically promoted anti-Semitism and holocaust denial.
BNP
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6688|North Carolina
Holocaust denial is pretty stupid, but so is legislation banning it.
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7059|UK

DooM wrote:

Milk.org wrote:

No I don't agree with any of them because if they took over the country would collapse when they deport all the legal immigrants therefore the people who do the lower paid jobs and it would topple inwards from there.

I can't see too many of our "indigenous" population finishing their A-levels/Degrees to go mop floors at Burger King.

If I remember correctly the BNP was founded by a guy from the National Front go figure.
Thats his choice though, his father took him to that. He isn't stupid either has a degree in history and law.
You don't have to be stupid to be ignorant.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7041|Argentina

Turquoise wrote:

Holocaust denial is pretty stupid, but so is legislation banning it.
These assholes are anti-Semite.  Period.
DooM
Member
+28|6590

Milk.org wrote:

DooM wrote:

Milk.org wrote:

No I don't agree with any of them because if they took over the country would collapse when they deport all the legal immigrants therefore the people who do the lower paid jobs and it would topple inwards from there.

I can't see too many of our "indigenous" population finishing their A-levels/Degrees to go mop floors at Burger King.

If I remember correctly the BNP was founded by a guy from the National Front go figure.
Thats his choice though, his father took him to that. He isn't stupid either has a degree in history and law.
You don't have to be stupid to be ignorant.
Hardly ignorant, he shows his views. The government are too scared to utter any sort of REAL views. Are you saying that the racial status in this country is fair?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7050|UK
I read the first 5 or so. If no one was racist i would agree with removing them, but people are racist therefore some laws are needed.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-03 18:13:04)

DooM
Member
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sergeriver wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Holocaust denial is pretty stupid, but so is legislation banning it.
These assholes are anti-Semite.  Period.
Theres a guy in mexico whos anti-american. Theres a guy in germany whos anti-french. Theres a guy in the Netherlands whos anti-german.

He may be anti-semite but his policies have mentioned nothing of the sort against Jewish people, thats his own beliefs and oppinions. Yes holocaust denial is ignorant but again thats his oppinions.
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7059|UK

DooM wrote:

Milk.org wrote:

DooM wrote:


Thats his choice though, his father took him to that. He isn't stupid either has a degree in history and law.
You don't have to be stupid to be ignorant.
Hardly ignorant, he shows his views. The government are too scared to utter any sort of REAL views. Are you saying that the racial status in this country is fair?
The party leaders been in prison for incitement to racial hatred.
The BNP had traditionally maintained a policy of re-criminalisation of homosexuality

It's a complete joke I understand what they're trying to do/say but they're just too far on the other end of the spectrum. Do you think the racial status in the country would be better or worse than it is currently under BNP rule? They play on certain areas like in Leeds where tensions are high trying to rally up support where they know people just need a little push in their direction. I think there are better ways to go about it than to go this far right.
DooM
Member
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Milk.org wrote:

DooM wrote:

Milk.org wrote:


You don't have to be stupid to be ignorant.
Hardly ignorant, he shows his views. The government are too scared to utter any sort of REAL views. Are you saying that the racial status in this country is fair?
The party leaders been in prison for incitement to racial hatred.
The BNP had traditionally maintained a policy of re-criminalisation of homosexuality

It's a complete joke I understand what they're trying to do/say but they're just too far on the other end of the spectrum. Do you think the racial status in the country would be better or worse than it is currently under BNP rule? They play on certain areas like in Leeds where tensions are high trying to rally up support where they know people just need a little push in their direction. I think there are better ways to go about it than to go this far right.
.....They wouldn't get in anyway, why? because they may have the ability to control immigration and possibly reduce racism but they can't run the country, the health service etc, well not as far as I know, they'd need to expand anyway.

I think that gay marrige and gay adoption is a complete joke, its the kid that suffers at the end of the day. Oh yeah I think racial tension would be better. Why should whites have to stand by and be discriminated against and can't do anything? whilst muslims walk around like they own the place and of course THEY MIGHT BE GETTING THEIR OWN SET OF LAWS!!!, when things like this happens other races get mad, rest my case.
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7059|UK

DooM wrote:

Milk.org wrote:

DooM wrote:

Hardly ignorant, he shows his views. The government are too scared to utter any sort of REAL views. Are you saying that the racial status in this country is fair?
The party leaders been in prison for incitement to racial hatred.
The BNP had traditionally maintained a policy of re-criminalisation of homosexuality

It's a complete joke I understand what they're trying to do/say but they're just too far on the other end of the spectrum. Do you think the racial status in the country would be better or worse than it is currently under BNP rule? They play on certain areas like in Leeds where tensions are high trying to rally up support where they know people just need a little push in their direction. I think there are better ways to go about it than to go this far right.
.....They wouldn't get in anyway, why? because they may have the ability to control immigration and possibly reduce racism but they can't run the country, the health service etc, well not as far as I know, they'd need to expand anyway.

I think that gay marrige and gay adoption is a complete joke, its the kid that suffers at the end of the day. Oh yeah I think racial tension would be better. Why should whites have to stand by and be discriminated against and can't do anything? whilst muslims walk around like they own the place and of course THEY MIGHT BE GETTING THEIR OWN SET OF LAWS!!!, when things like this happens other races get mad, rest my case.
OK We'll agree to disagree. You think you're hard done by as a white person in your own country. I don't. Was it an individual incident that made you feel this way? I live in a city that is estimated to have one of the first ethnic majorities in Britain in the next few years and it doesn't make a difference to me if the guy who sells me my clothes/food/electric is white/black/asian.

We don't need people posting leaflets with images of the 7/7 bombings saying "Maybe now it's time to start listening to the BNP."

They have too much in common with Nazi's for my vote.
Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6628|Twyford, UK

DooM wrote:

Skorpy-chan wrote:

They propose to ship everybody out of britain. EVERYBODY. Britain has no native people. It's a goddamn island, everyone's descended from some invasion or another.
You need to read. They would double foreign policy and provide them with homes in their original country which hence benefits that country. Works or not you've just taken it as a complete bs statement, no one would have that in their policies.
You need to think. My point is that they aren't saying WHICH immigrants. The poles, the romans, the commonwealth citizens, the vikings, the normans, who?


Milk.org wrote:

I can't see too many of our "indigenous" population finishing their A-levels/Degrees to go mop floors at Burger King.
Can't even get hired doing that these days unless you want to work for peanuts. I would have been better off working retail full-time for two years instead of bothering to take any A-levels.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|6985|Little Rock, Arkansas

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

In another thread some guy was talking about the BNP and how they had some good policies.  He obviously got flammed (and banned I think) for being racist.  So, I went on their site, found the most racist bit of their manifesto and here are their policies on multi-culturism.  But how many of them are you prepared to admit you agree with?

nazi..I mean BNP wrote:

Our proposals:

1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain .

2. We would abolish all targets and quotas for ethnic representation in all areas of employment, public and private.

3. We would abolish all politically-correct indoctrination of the police, teachers, and other public employees.

4. We would abolish all government-sponsored ethnicity-specific professional bodies, housing associations, and other organisations.

5.  We would abolish all departments, agencies, or other units of government whose sole and specific purpose is to deal with ethnic issues, grievances, or crimes.  Such organisations deliberately seek out the maximum quantity of "racism" in order to justify their own existence and expand their power and budgets.  The law is the law and must be enforced equally upon all without being politicised over ethnic differences.

6. We would abolish all laws against racial discrimination in employment and the government bodies associated with enforcing them.

7. Except for purposes of teaching foreign languages to native speakers of English, the only languages permitted in official documents, government business, and schools will be English, Scots, and Welsh. The use of other languages by ethnic minorities in their own homes, school and institutions will also be encouraged.

8. A Clause 28-style proscription against the promotion of racial integration in schools and the media would be introduced.

9. In order to make it clear that the “celebration of diversity” is something in which the native peoples of our islands can share, each of our traditional Saints Days would be made Public Holidays in the nations in question, with Trafalgar Day being an additional Public Holiday throughout the entire UK.

10. A massively-funded and permanent programme, using and doubling Britain's current foreign aid budget, will aim to reduce, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of ethnic origin, the proportion of ethnic minorities living in Britain, for as long as the majority of the electorate are willing to fund such expenditure. Since the chief impact of such a programme would be the assistance it would render to Developing Countries in the Third World, this is described further in Section 16 – Britain and the World.

11. While accepting the right of law-abiding minorities, in our country because they or their ancestors came here legally, to remain here and to enjoy the full protection of the law against any form of harassment or hostility, we will also seek to emphasise the importance of the prior status of the aboriginal people. This would be a national extension of the ‘Sons and Daughters' policy in priority on housing and school places lists which BNP councils seek to implement at local level.
I agree with,
2. Because ethnic targets are racist themselves.
3. Maybe!  I don't think Police should have to take their shoes off when they enter a Muslim's house if that's what they mean.
4. For the same reason as 2.
5. Their argument sold me on that one.
7. Go to Oxford Boys School, all it's signs are in English and Urdu.  I think you're free to come here but you should learn the language whilst your here and not expect the country to adapt to your needs (some exclusions to that rule).
9. Because I want more time off work.

The rest are just sick, quite frankly.  But does this mean that we can't even discuss the others?  Don't get me wrong, they are and always will be totally unelectable but should other parties not look at some of their non-all out Nazi polices if they start winning seats in the UK?
Honestly, I'd be cool with 1-7. Not that any of these laws affect me, but those proposals seem legit. The rest are kind of wacky. Sending immigrants back doesn't work, look at Liberia.

sergeriver wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Holocaust denial is pretty stupid, but so is legislation banning it.
These assholes are anti-Semite.  Period.
I always find it ironic when someone from Argentina calls someone else an anti-semite. Wasn't your country responsible for harboring and hiding the nazis that escaped europe after ww2? I do know that they harbored Eichmann, I've read Arrent's account of the trial.
Sanjaya
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#7 is a joke. The fuck speaks Welsh?
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
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DooM wrote:

Lets see:

1) This means that how freedom of speach is unfair, for example you call an arab a "paki" then its racist, if they call you whitey or honkey its not racist. They want to appeal to make it more equal, it isn't equal in the UK imo.

2)Well basically it sounds like affirmative action, discrimitative, yes. BNP you can call them nazis or whatever other immature comments, but they are standing up for their country and their rights. Now this is the same policy that is currently in action in South Africa, oh but thats not racist is it?

3) Well its a little vague but im getting the sense that its suggesting the racial selection, like forces and companies often are presurized to hire more immigrant workers or they could receive a bad image. BNP wants to remove that so companies can hire anyone (with the right qualifications etc) no matter their race or whatever.

4) This is fine imo. Right now basically Asylum Seekers get free housing which comes out of peoples taxes, the people don't want them to come here and get free housing, I'd rather it went into education and health.

5) Very true again, Law is the law their should not be any exceptions for race or what not which usually does(can) happen. Everyone should be equal and face the same penalty for the exact crime, no exemptions for race or what not.

6) This is also fine, affirmative action relating to that and you can see, it is wrong for a company to say yes to say a black person and no to a white person they have the exact same qualifications, suit etc but the company manager has been presurized to hire the black.

7) Well this makes sense it clearly suggests that the party wants the UK to keep its roots, in all honesty the UK is drifting away from its roots. Its like if your at work and everyone is speaking in arabic for example you would feel like your not even in your own country, and all workers SHOULD speak english, I hate going into a store and spending 20 mins trying to do hand signals to help them understand as they don't speak english.

8) The claus-28 act made sense as promoting homophobia is not right imo. But promoting race, not sure in what terms but proscription meaning serious penatly, meaning racial insightment? or hatrid? again a bit vague, but I'd have to look further into this one.

9) Again relating to roots, it shows clearly that they want to bring the nations traditions back, personally I don't see anything wrong with this, perfectly fine.

10) In other words encourage them to go back. It sounds like its "racist" but their going to re-settle them, I don't know how but still this could benefit for the 3rd world countries at the same time.

11) Need to read up on that.

"The rest are just sick"

Are you white?
1) No I don't think it's how you're saying which is why I disagreed.  They're basically saying it would legal to call black people niggers and Asians pakis anytime you want.  If they were going to ensure that White people had a level playing field they'd modify the Race Relations Act. these guys wanna tear it up.

6) I think you've made the same mistake.  You're referring to #2, which I also agree with.  They wanna make it so you abuse ethnic minorities at the workplace and they can't do anything about it.

8) I took this as meaning no mixed race couples on TV.  Also, the football team would have to dispand as having black players and white players on the same team would be "promoting racial integration". You have to be a real Nazi to agree with them on this one.

10) Are you mad?  They're basically gonna stop helping all other countries in the World and use that money to extrodite people.  This is where their true colours show.  Do you think it would really be voluntary?

11) Appartheid basically.  All the good they do in point 2 about scrapping ethic targets they undo here.  They're basically saying that white people would always come before ethic minorities which as you can see is unfair.

Oh, and I am white and a total non-racist.  By that I mean I belive that no race should have ANY advantages other ANY other.  Which is why I often get misunderstood when I stand up for white people when they get discriminated against.

I was going to apply for a job that really interested me.  I picked up a form and on it, in bold it said,

"We would especially welcome applications from ethnic minority"

It was the "especially" that got me.  Just letting people know they're not racist is fine by saying all apllications welcome but it does annoyy me that I would be at a disadvantage as a white person because the place needs to fill certain quotas.

I also disagree with the MOBO awards for the same reason.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7041|Argentina

blisteringsilence wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

In another thread some guy was talking about the BNP and how they had some good policies.  He obviously got flammed (and banned I think) for being racist.  So, I went on their site, found the most racist bit of their manifesto and here are their policies on multi-culturism.  But how many of them are you prepared to admit you agree with?

nazi..I mean BNP wrote:

Our proposals:

1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain .

2. We would abolish all targets and quotas for ethnic representation in all areas of employment, public and private.

3. We would abolish all politically-correct indoctrination of the police, teachers, and other public employees.

4. We would abolish all government-sponsored ethnicity-specific professional bodies, housing associations, and other organisations.

5.  We would abolish all departments, agencies, or other units of government whose sole and specific purpose is to deal with ethnic issues, grievances, or crimes.  Such organisations deliberately seek out the maximum quantity of "racism" in order to justify their own existence and expand their power and budgets.  The law is the law and must be enforced equally upon all without being politicised over ethnic differences.

6. We would abolish all laws against racial discrimination in employment and the government bodies associated with enforcing them.

7. Except for purposes of teaching foreign languages to native speakers of English, the only languages permitted in official documents, government business, and schools will be English, Scots, and Welsh. The use of other languages by ethnic minorities in their own homes, school and institutions will also be encouraged.

8. A Clause 28-style proscription against the promotion of racial integration in schools and the media would be introduced.

9. In order to make it clear that the “celebration of diversity” is something in which the native peoples of our islands can share, each of our traditional Saints Days would be made Public Holidays in the nations in question, with Trafalgar Day being an additional Public Holiday throughout the entire UK.

10. A massively-funded and permanent programme, using and doubling Britain's current foreign aid budget, will aim to reduce, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of ethnic origin, the proportion of ethnic minorities living in Britain, for as long as the majority of the electorate are willing to fund such expenditure. Since the chief impact of such a programme would be the assistance it would render to Developing Countries in the Third World, this is described further in Section 16 – Britain and the World.

11. While accepting the right of law-abiding minorities, in our country because they or their ancestors came here legally, to remain here and to enjoy the full protection of the law against any form of harassment or hostility, we will also seek to emphasise the importance of the prior status of the aboriginal people. This would be a national extension of the ‘Sons and Daughters' policy in priority on housing and school places lists which BNP councils seek to implement at local level.
I agree with,
2. Because ethnic targets are racist themselves.
3. Maybe!  I don't think Police should have to take their shoes off when they enter a Muslim's house if that's what they mean.
4. For the same reason as 2.
5. Their argument sold me on that one.
7. Go to Oxford Boys School, all it's signs are in English and Urdu.  I think you're free to come here but you should learn the language whilst your here and not expect the country to adapt to your needs (some exclusions to that rule).
9. Because I want more time off work.

The rest are just sick, quite frankly.  But does this mean that we can't even discuss the others?  Don't get me wrong, they are and always will be totally unelectable but should other parties not look at some of their non-all out Nazi polices if they start winning seats in the UK?
Honestly, I'd be cool with 1-7. Not that any of these laws affect me, but those proposals seem legit. The rest are kind of wacky. Sending immigrants back doesn't work, look at Liberia.

sergeriver wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Holocaust denial is pretty stupid, but so is legislation banning it.
These assholes are anti-Semite.  Period.
I always find it ironic when someone from Argentina calls someone else an anti-semite. Wasn't your country responsible for harboring and hiding the nazis that escaped europe after ww2? I do know that they harbored Eichmann, I've read Arrent's account of the trial.
It was Peron 60 years ago and I think he was an asshole anti-Semite.  So, I can't talk about anti-Semitism because someone in the past in my country was a nazi lover?  Can't Germans be against Nazis?  Can't Italians?  Lol.  I find it ironic that an ignorant person like you talks about things he doesn't know shit.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
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sergeriver wrote:

It was Peron 60 years ago and I think he was an asshole anti-Semite.  So, I can't talk about anti-Semitism because someone in the past in my country was a nazi lover?  Can't Germans be against Nazis?  Can't Italians?  Lol.  I find it ironic that an ignorant person like you talks about things he doesn't know shit.
1. Don't be a troll.

2. This is debate and serious talk, not flames-r-us.

3. Yes, a German can be anti-nazi. As can an Italian. Though, I don't get the Italian part, they were fascists without the antisemitic part of the Nazis. But that's besides the point.

I graduated with two degrees. Chemistry and Political Science. I would argue both that I am not ignorant, and you don't know what you're talking about. Argentina was still harboring escaped Nazi's in the 70's and 80's as they died off, and the Argentinian government to this day refuses to release the vast majority of their files dealing with Nazis that reloacated to Argentina, despite pressure from inside and out. If you'd like, there are a number of good books. Eichmann in Jerusalem by Hannah Arendt deals with the issue tangentially, and The Real Odessa: Smuggling the Nazis to Perón's Argentina by Uki Goni deals with it directly.

In the future, I challenge you to reply like an adult. Failing that, don't reply.

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