Claim anything, I'll prove it wrong

2007-04-22 12:41:31

#1151

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6688

KesslerB wrote:
mkxiii wrote:
KesslerB wrote:
my statement: 'DeathUnlimited can prove any statement wrong.'

I win! By using a self referencial statement you lose either way. Do I get a cookie?
Technically you could say that DeathUnlimited cannot prove any statement wrong, but so far he has proven all of those put to him wrong. as there are an infinite amount of statements, you could say he can prove the majority wrong, which contain the ones put to him, but one which has never been asked, and never will, would be impossible for him to.
You're missing the point. My statement is 'DeathUnlimited can prove any statement wrong'. His options are:

1) Try and prove it wrong. Therefore he would be proving that he CAN'T PROVE any statement wrong. He loses

2) Admit he can't prove it wrong. he loses

I win

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:
KesslerB wrote:
my statement: 'DeathUnlimited can prove any statement wrong.'

I win! By using a self referencial statement you lose either way. Do I get a cookie?
He can't prove this one wrong, but I just proved it wrong.

Damn, I'm good.

I /win

2007-04-22 12:42:53

#1152

Ryan: Member; +1,230|7062|Alberta, Canada

The world is spherical and has water occupying space on it.

Last edited by Ryan (2007-04-22 12:43:07)

2007-04-22 13:37:40

#1153

mkxiii: online bf2s mek evasion; +509|6455|Uk

Ryan wrote:
The world is spherical and has water occupying space on it.

Firstly the world is not spherical as it has mountains and contours etc. and secondly water does not occupy space ON it, it occupies space in the, what you are calling, 'sphere'.

2007-04-22 14:24:20

#1154

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6543|New Haven, CT

Those who are attempting to prove statements wrong in this thread consider every statement previously posted to have been proven wrong.

2007-04-22 14:25:45

#1155

Ryan: Member; +1,230|7062|Alberta, Canada

mkxiii wrote:
Ryan wrote:
The world is spherical and has water occupying space on it.
Firstly the world is not spherical as it has mountains and contours etc. and secondly water does not occupy space ON it, it occupies space in the, what you are calling, 'sphere'.

It claims the shape of a sphere, and water is not in the sphere, just resting on top of it.
If it was in it, it would be in the core of the Earth.

Last edited by Ryan (2007-04-22 14:25:54)

2007-04-22 20:25:50

#1156

WinterWayfarer: Combat Medic; +21|6471|Spacetime

I drink water.

2007-04-22 23:18:25

#1157

[PTG]shogun: PS n00b & proud vista user; +44|6651

WinterWayfarer wrote:
I drink water.

u in fact drink a solution of water, chlorine and other chemicals

2007-04-22 23:20:46

#1158

djphetal: Go Ducks.; +346|6555|Oregon

The irish potato famine caused widespread hunger.

2007-04-22 23:26:45

#1159

Smitty5613: Member; +46|6745|Middle of nowhere, California

The sun is hot.

2007-04-23 10:03:21

#1160

[PTG]shogun: PS n00b & proud vista user; +44|6651

Smitty5613 wrote:
The sun is hot.

that is an opinion which is realitive, personally i think the sune is mildy warm

2007-04-23 12:12:19

#1161

mkxiii: online bf2s mek evasion; +509|6455|Uk

Ryan wrote:
mkxiii wrote:
Ryan wrote:
The world is spherical and has water occupying space on it.
Firstly the world is not spherical as it has mountains and contours etc. and secondly water does not occupy space ON it, it occupies space in the, what you are calling, 'sphere'.
It claims the shape of a sphere, and water is not in the sphere, just resting on top of it.
If it was in it, it would be in the core of the Earth.

Check out rule two

and the world contains land and sea etc so therefore it takes up space occupied by the world.

2007-04-23 13:10:16

#1162

topal63: . . .; +533|6937

mkxiii wrote:
Ryan wrote:
mkxiii wrote:

Firstly the world is not spherical as it has mountains and contours etc. and secondly water does not occupy space ON it, it occupies space in the, what you are calling, 'sphere'.
It claims the shape of a sphere, and water is not in the sphere, just resting on top of it.
If it was in it, it would be in the core of the Earth.
Check out rule two

and the world contains land and sea etc so therefore it takes up space occupied by the world.

As you already said: mountains, contours, etc...

The Earth is not spherical; but it has characteristics similar to, specifically, an Oblate Spheroid (a type of ellipsoid).
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OblateSpheroid.html
&
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblate

.. also that is a mathematical model describing a meta-feature. The Earth is not really smooth like an ellipsoid though (due to gravity; and differing concentrations of matter densities) it is better modeled as a Gravimetric Geoid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_geodesy

2007-04-23 16:23:07

#1163

WinterWayfarer: Combat Medic; +21|6471|Spacetime

Global warming is happening.

---

I have two ears.

I have one tongue.

I eat food.

Last edited by WinterWayfarer (2007-04-23 22:14:44)

2007-04-23 21:15:27

#1164

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6543|New Haven, CT

nukchebi0 wrote:
Those who are attempting to prove statements wrong in this thread consider every statement previously posted to have been proven wrong.

2007-04-24 07:52:24

#1165

Sniper-UK-Ghost: Ice Lolly Maniac; +30|6454|Bristol

Prove that its not my birthday today

Last edited by Sniper-UK-Ghost (2007-04-24 07:52:43)

2007-04-24 14:01:12

#1166

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6682|cuntshitlake

Z-trooper wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
Djbrown wrote:

Redshift shows that all galaxies/starts are moving away from us at an increasing rate. so the universe is apparently getting larger, faster every second.
Yes. that proves the space is not infinite. If it would be, they couldn't move away. Also if it was, there'd be light coming from every point of the sky. Believe me, I am physicist.
Not to be a party pooper or anything, but if you are a physicist, like you claim, you must know that this is wrong.. keyword: astronomer Edwin Hubble...

He was the first to lay the groundwork for the determination of the age of our universe.. he also discovered that galaxies were moving away from eachother and developed the basics of the theory of space expanding.. according to all this we can only see 13.7 billion light years in every direction.. a kind of "line of sight" of 13.7 billion light years..

.. and before dismissing my reply as the work of a small child, I would just like to say that I have studied astro physics and I'm working on satellites on a daily basis..

Yes I am an amateur physicist. I haven't ever really heard of that "line of sight" but I agree, it sounds like a reasonable theory, We can't see infinitely. But my first point is still correct, if the universe would be infinite, it could not widen.

djphetal wrote:
The irish potato famine caused widespread hunger.

No. the hunger wasn't widespread in the global scale, maybe in Ireland, but It didn't affect e.g South America or Asia.

WinterWayfarer wrote:
Global warming is happening.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66139

WinterWayfarer wrote:
I have two ears.
I have one tongue.
I eat food.

I refers to your forum nick ---> it doesn't have organs.

nukchebi0 wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Those who are attempting to prove statements wrong in this thread consider every statement previously posted to have been proven wrong.

You are in queue for us, because you take this thread too seriously. Try again next month with different attitude.

Sniper-UK-Ghost wrote:
Prove that its not my birthday today

It is not today.

main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg

2007-04-24 17:59:03

#1167

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6543|New Haven, CT

DeathUnlimited wrote:
Z-trooper wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:

Yes. that proves the space is not infinite. If it would be, they couldn't move away. Also if it was, there'd be light coming from every point of the sky. Believe me, I am physicist.
Not to be a party pooper or anything, but if you are a physicist, like you claim, you must know that this is wrong.. keyword: astronomer Edwin Hubble...

He was the first to lay the groundwork for the determination of the age of our universe.. he also discovered that galaxies were moving away from eachother and developed the basics of the theory of space expanding.. according to all this we can only see 13.7 billion light years in every direction.. a kind of "line of sight" of 13.7 billion light years..

.. and before dismissing my reply as the work of a small child, I would just like to say that I have studied astro physics and I'm working on satellites on a daily basis..
Yes I am an amateur physicist. I haven't ever really heard of that "line of sight" but I agree, it sounds like a reasonable theory, We can't see infinitely. But my first point is still correct, if the universe would be infinite, it could not widen.
djphetal wrote:
The irish potato famine caused widespread hunger.
No. the hunger wasn't widespread in the global scale, maybe in Ireland, but It didn't affect e.g South America or Asia.
WinterWayfarer wrote:
Global warming is happening.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66139
WinterWayfarer wrote:
I have two ears.
I have one tongue.
I eat food.
I refers to your forum nick ---> it doesn't have organs.
nukchebi0 wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Those who are attempting to prove statements wrong in this thread consider every statement previously posted to have been proven wrong.
You are in queue for us, because you take this thread too seriously. Try again next month with different attitude.
Sniper-UK-Ghost wrote:
Prove that its not my birthday today
It is not today.

What attitude? I already learned this is just for fun.

2007-04-24 23:57:31

#1168

FloppY_: +1,010|6505|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

topal63 wrote:
ShawN_ wrote:
You will prove me wrong !
You are right... therefore you are wrong.

Think about it for a minute...

O_o cunning logics...

Meh.......

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2007-04-25 01:44:22

#1169

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6688

nukchebi0 wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Those who are attempting to prove statements wrong in this thread consider every statement previously posted to have been proven wrong.

What DU said.

And if you would read whole thread you would know you are wrong...

2007-04-25 01:47:34

#1170

RavyGravy: Son.; +617|6624|NSW, Australia

Noobest[FiN] loves this thread and hates Australia

2007-04-25 02:31:07

#1171

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6688

<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
Noobest[FiN] loves this thread and hates Australia

I don't hate you. If you would read all the stuff written in the secret topic you would know.

2007-04-25 02:34:58

#1172

RavyGravy: Son.; +617|6624|NSW, Australia

what secret topic

2007-04-25 06:23:04

#1173

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6688

I can't tell, it's secret.

2007-04-25 09:47:25

#1174

topal63: . . .; +533|6937

ShawN_ wrote:
topal63 wrote:
ShawN_ wrote:
You will prove me wrong!
You are right... therefore you are wrong.

Think about it for a minute...
O_o cunning logics...

Meh.......

Guess I will have to get more technical then?

This is similar to the liar's proposition / contradiction. The statement is as follows: "Everything I say is a lie." Is this true or false (right or wrong)? How can this be TRUE if everything he says is FALSE? For it to be TRUE he cannot be a liar in every instance - ergo this is a lie (FALSE). And only suggests that this instance is a lie (FALSE). He could only say this instead to avoid a contradiction: "I almost always lie."

Now your statement also contains a subtle contradiction. If we don't prove you wrong - then you are wrong (we could just ignore your post, therefore you are wrong). But how can we prove you wrong by not proving you wrong (by avoidance)? It's a subtle contradiction. Also if we prove you wrong then you are right (as we have proved you wrong), which is a contradiction again by proving you wrong - instead of disproving you - we end up proving your statement (contradiction again). But that only indicates the statement is a contradiction and thus is a FALSE statement, inherent to all self-contradictory statements.

By being right - yet self-contradictory (inherently false) - you are wrong.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-04-25 10:58:50)

2007-04-25 17:04:36

#1175

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6543|New Haven, CT

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Those who are attempting to prove statements wrong in this thread consider every statement previously posted to have been proven wrong.
What DU said.

And if you would read whole thread you would know you are wrong...

I think this has been settled. I chose a new statement for a reason.

BF2S Forums Claim anything, I'll prove it wrong

KesslerB wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

KesslerB wrote:

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:

KesslerB wrote:

Ryan wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

Ryan wrote:

WinterWayfarer wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

Ryan wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

Ryan wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Z-trooper wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Djbrown wrote:

djphetal wrote:

WinterWayfarer wrote:

WinterWayfarer wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Sniper-UK-Ghost wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Z-trooper wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

djphetal wrote:

WinterWayfarer wrote:

WinterWayfarer wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Sniper-UK-Ghost wrote:

topal63 wrote:

ShawN_ wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:

ShawN_ wrote:

topal63 wrote:

ShawN_ wrote:

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

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