or just stop fighting altogether... but unfortunately there are too many ignorant people in the world so there will always be a "god" to fight for..HOLLYWOOD=_=FTW=_= wrote:
I cant wait till everyone realizes that there is no god or higher power then we can fight about stuff that actually matters.
I'm Muslim, and do you know what I feel about this?
I don't care.
One extremist in Pakistan isn't going to change my view on my own religion, and it shouldn't FOR YOU EITHER.
Did the VA tech shooter make you think all Asians are angry, dual pistol wielding maniacs?
I don't care how high and mighty you think your opinion on Muslims is- in the end I know that YOU ARE WRONG. Most people try to hate on ALL of the people who follow my religion, quite frankly I don't mind. Usually I will point out their flawed and contradictory statements as most do, other times I just see ignorance and out-of-context statements, so I don't bother.
Yes, I find what you posted disturbing. I am partially "outraged" at the fact that a Muslim did this. However, given the fact that there must have been SOME difference in the context and that it was in ANOTHER country that is constantly ripped by viloence- I'm not that "outraged."
I don't care.
One extremist in Pakistan isn't going to change my view on my own religion, and it shouldn't FOR YOU EITHER.
Did the VA tech shooter make you think all Asians are angry, dual pistol wielding maniacs?
I don't care how high and mighty you think your opinion on Muslims is- in the end I know that YOU ARE WRONG. Most people try to hate on ALL of the people who follow my religion, quite frankly I don't mind. Usually I will point out their flawed and contradictory statements as most do, other times I just see ignorance and out-of-context statements, so I don't bother.
Yes, I find what you posted disturbing. I am partially "outraged" at the fact that a Muslim did this. However, given the fact that there must have been SOME difference in the context and that it was in ANOTHER country that is constantly ripped by viloence- I'm not that "outraged."
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^ Most people here also seem to think muslims come exclusively from the middle east.
Argh! No! Not INTELLIGENCE! Save us all!Pubic wrote:
^ Most people here also seem to think muslims come exclusively from the middle east.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I couldn't give a fuck.
Oh you wont get your outrage in America either cos no one gives a fuck either (cept you....are you bored?)
Oh you wont get your outrage in America either cos no one gives a fuck either (cept you....are you bored?)
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
What are you? some kind of heartless bastard? How could you not care and call yourself a decent human being?m3thod wrote:
I couldn't give a fuck.
Oh you wont get your outrage in America either cos no one gives a fuck either (cept you....are you bored?)
That's rich from the resident loco who has openly posted that he doesn't mind Iraqis (you know humans) die so that his beloved homeland achieves a slightly dodgy objective a few thousand miles away. Not exactly the shining example of humanity yourself are you?ATG wrote:
What are you? some kind of heartless bastard? How could you not care and call yourself a decent human being?m3thod wrote:
I couldn't give a fuck.
Oh you wont get your outrage in America either cos no one gives a fuck either (cept you....are you bored?)
And when did i ever claim to be a decent human being? I'm a total cunt through and through. And i love it.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
I leave Iraq discussion in EVERY SINGLE for you guys...since you cannot talk about anything else apparently.m3thod wrote:
That's rich from the resident loco who has openly posted that he doesn't mind Iraqis (you know humans) die so that his beloved homeland achieves a slightly dodgy objective a few thousand miles away. Not exactly the shining example of humanity yourself are you?ATG wrote:
What are you? some kind of heartless bastard? How could you not care and call yourself a decent human being?m3thod wrote:
I couldn't give a fuck.
Oh you wont get your outrage in America either cos no one gives a fuck either (cept you....are you bored?)
And when did i ever claim to be a decent human being? I'm a total cunt through and through. And i love it.
Maybe....it's done on purpose.....usmarine2005 wrote:
I leave Iraq discussion in EVERY SINGLE for you guys...since you cannot talk about anything else apparently.m3thod wrote:
That's rich from the resident loco who has openly posted that he doesn't mind Iraqis (you know humans) die so that his beloved homeland achieves a slightly dodgy objective a few thousand miles away. Not exactly the shining example of humanity yourself are you?ATG wrote:
What are you? some kind of heartless bastard? How could you not care and call yourself a decent human being?
And when did i ever claim to be a decent human being? I'm a total cunt through and through. And i love it.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
BULL SHITSanjaya wrote:
Read the articles: Americans care, military does some cursory punishments, soldiers silently applaud their comrade's actions.
Do you honestly believe that US servicemen and women applaud killing civilians? If so, you need to go talk to some of them and learn something.
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Yes...talking about Iraq and not why a 12 year old chops off a persons head in the name of allah is very purposeful.m3thod wrote:
Maybe....it's done on purpose.....
Wow, the sanjaya on this forum must be as dense as the boy who appeared on the tv this morning was. His posts on the forum here make Tungsten look like featherweight by comparison. Making people lie naked on each other is one thing, having adolescents remove people's heads with knives is another all together. If the Pope saying the Muslims are a violent people gets a response of dead nuns and burnt churches, then why in a "religion of peace" does not the behavior of terrorists get at least a grunt from them? That's what usmarine's asking. Besides, I'm fairly sure usmarine's regret for abu ghraib is covered in President Bush's apology which was aired on Al Jazeera.
I'm still waiting for your outrage at the American mistreatment of prisoners.............................
I'm still waiting for Bubbalo to read previous posts before posting himself.............................
Or maybe I did, but it doesn't change the fact that usmarine has repeatedly defended them.
No, you're missing the point. If usmarine is demanding outrage and apologies, he should be willing to offer some of his own. President Bush's "regret" is not marines. You call me dense but that's fairly simple to understand.iamangry wrote:
Wow, the sanjaya on this forum must be as dense as the boy who appeared on the tv this morning was. His posts on the forum here make Tungsten look like featherweight by comparison. Making people lie naked on each other is one thing, having adolescents remove people's heads with knives is another all together. If the Pope saying the Muslims are a violent people gets a response of dead nuns and burnt churches, then why in a "religion of peace" does not the behavior of terrorists get at least a grunt from them? That's what usmarine's asking. Besides, I'm fairly sure usmarine's regret for abu ghraib is covered in President Bush's apology which was aired on Al Jazeera.
Sorry bad comparison, those men were caught, tried and punished for their crimes and yes, we were all outraged by their actions.Sanjaya wrote:
How about a group of 6 men raping a 14 year old girl and murdering her and her family, then burning them (a MAJOR no no in Islam)? Is that enough?TuataraDude wrote:
All due respect Sanjaya, while what happened at Abu Ghraib was appalling, I don't think it even comes close to a 12 year old boy hacking a man's head off in the name of his deity.Sanjaya wrote:
Could you link me to your outrage about Haditha or Abu Ghraib perchance?
If that boy can do that at the age of 12, his parents, or guardians, or whomever brainwashed him to that extent should be held to account. I'm not going to say they should suffer the same fate, as that would make the punishers as barbaric as the perpetrators. But that one person can do something like that to another shows that we as a species need to sort our shit out or none of us deserve to be here.
I agree with the second part of your post, but I hardly think Usmarine can demand Muslims to be outraged when he shows no contrition for any of this.
Oh, because that makes it all OK, does it?lowing wrote:
Sorry bad comparison, those men were caught, tried and punished for their crimes and yes, we were all outraged by their actions.Sanjaya wrote:
How about a group of 6 men raping a 14 year old girl and murdering her and her family, then burning them (a MAJOR no no in Islam)? Is that enough?TuataraDude wrote:
All due respect Sanjaya, while what happened at Abu Ghraib was appalling, I don't think it even comes close to a 12 year old boy hacking a man's head off in the name of his deity.
If that boy can do that at the age of 12, his parents, or guardians, or whomever brainwashed him to that extent should be held to account. I'm not going to say they should suffer the same fate, as that would make the punishers as barbaric as the perpetrators. But that one person can do something like that to another shows that we as a species need to sort our shit out or none of us deserve to be here.
I agree with the second part of your post, but I hardly think Usmarine can demand Muslims to be outraged when he shows no contrition for any of this.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
That's pretty damned horrific.
Actually, no it doesn't make it ok. That is why they were punished.Spark wrote:
Oh, because that makes it all OK, does it?lowing wrote:
Sorry bad comparison, those men were caught, tried and punished for their crimes and yes, we were all outraged by their actions.Sanjaya wrote:
How about a group of 6 men raping a 14 year old girl and murdering her and her family, then burning them (a MAJOR no no in Islam)? Is that enough?
I agree with the second part of your post, but I hardly think Usmarine can demand Muslims to be outraged when he shows no contrition for any of this.
Yet another example of your "peace loving", tolerant Muslims practicing their religion. That religion is animalistic to say the least. They live in the stone age and wallow in their own despire while trying to justify dragging everyone down with them. They have redeeming qualities what so ever. Oops!!! Did I just "generalize" again?? Damn!!!CameronPoe wrote:
That's pretty damned horrific.
lollowing wrote:
Yet another example of your "peace loving", tolerant Muslims practicing their religion. That religion is animalistic to say the least. They live in the stone age and wallow in their own despire while trying to justify dragging everyone down with them. They have redeeming qualities what so ever. Oops!!! Did I just "generalize" again?? Damn!!!CameronPoe wrote:
That's pretty damned horrific.
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why are you laughing? This behavior was condemned by us Americans and punishment was administered to the perpetrators. Uhhhh that would be reduction in rank, loss of pay, dishonorable discharge and jail time. Punishment far greater than these Muslims will get for their crime. A crime I hope we can agree is far more severe than humiliation. Whatcha think??CameronPoe wrote:
lollowing wrote:
Yet another example of your "peace loving", tolerant Muslims practicing their religion. That religion is animalistic to say the least. They live in the stone age and wallow in their own despaired while trying to justify dragging everyone down with them. They have redeeming qualities what so ever. Oops!!! Did I just "generalize" again?? Damn!!!CameronPoe wrote:
That's pretty damned horrific.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphic … tort16.jpg
http://ch.indymedia.org/images/2004/05/22916.jpg
I really hate when people read an article like that and try and justify it with things like: "well, what if you were ___" or something
I was laughing at the Colbert-esque generalisation.lowing wrote:
why are you laughing? This behavior was condemned by us Americans and punishment was administered to the perpetrators. Uhhhh that would be reduction in rank, loss of pay, dishonorable discharge and jail time. Punishment far greater than these Muslims will get for their crime. A crime I hope we can agree is far more severe than humiliation. Whatcha think??CameronPoe wrote:
lollowing wrote:
Yet another example of your "peace loving", tolerant Muslims practicing their religion. That religion is animalistic to say the least. They live in the stone age and wallow in their own despaired while trying to justify dragging everyone down with them. They have redeeming qualities what so ever. Oops!!! Did I just "generalize" again?? Damn!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphic … tort16.jpg
http://ch.indymedia.org/images/2004/05/22916.jpg
I think you'll find the guy in the last picture was dead - how humiliating that must be...
If I were to apply the same generalisations that you do then I would be entitled to declare that all Americans are fond of torture, sexual abuse and extra-judicial killing. But I have sufficient intellect not to engage in such stupid behaviour.