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wow, just wow. the fact that people clapped, not many, was the most disturbing part. Being white, and now living in Detroit, I see racism every day against white people. Through words, actions, and subtle jestures and movements, i see a problem.usmarine2005 wrote:
Sharpton and Jackson are the definition of racism.
sorry, their skin isnt pale enough for them to be made to look bad on the news. maybe someday all racists will be shown as being bad, instead of just the white ones. that is a day i really look forward to, but i highly doubt that i'll ever see it in my lifetime.superfly_cox wrote:
Where was the media coverage of this?
Where is the Rev. Al Sharpton?
Can you really compare Don Imus making a joke about "Nappy-headed Ho's" to Mr Kambon's call for the extermination of all white people?
It is a double standard because there was ZERO coverage of this incident. C-SPAN may not be popular but it can be found in every cable package in the country. Its pretty remarkable when somebody appears on tv calling for the extermination of hundred of millions of people. Do a search on CNN.com for this guy and you will find no trace of it.Masques wrote:
There's no double standard. Imus is a nationally syndicated TV and radio host who has a show carried by one of the largest media companies in the world.
That guy is literally "some guy" who appeared on C-SPAN a grand total of "1" time. I doubt you'll find many people who know who he is (before now I'd never heard of him).
If the situation were reversed and that guy had a nationally syndicated TV and radio show on one of the largest networks in the world and Imus was some random white guy who called the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos"...who do you think would get more backlash? Imus? Or the more visible talk show host?
There has been coverage of this incident, this isn't the first time I've seen that fools rant.superfly_cox wrote:
It is a double standard because there was ZERO coverage of this incident. C-SPAN may not be popular but it can be found in every cable package in the country. Its pretty remarkable when somebody appears on tv calling for the extermination of hundred of millions of people. Do a search on CNN.com for this guy and you will find no trace of it.Masques wrote:
There's no double standard. Imus is a nationally syndicated TV and radio host who has a show carried by one of the largest media companies in the world.
That guy is literally "some guy" who appeared on C-SPAN a grand total of "1" time. I doubt you'll find many people who know who he is (before now I'd never heard of him).
If the situation were reversed and that guy had a nationally syndicated TV and radio show on one of the largest networks in the world and Imus was some random white guy who called the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos"...who do you think would get more backlash? Imus? Or the more visible talk show host?
But if you want to talk about celebrities, how about Bryant Gumble who at the end of Real Sports, the television program he hosts on HBO he says:
"Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don't like them and won't watch them ... Because they're so trying, maybe over the next three weeks we should all try too. Like, try not to be incredulous when someone attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world's greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something's not really a sport if a pseudo-athlete waits in what's called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the day they're done, when we can move on to March Madness — for God's sake, let the games begin."
Is this not a racist comment? Imagine if a white guy had said the reverse:
"So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world's greatest athletes, despite a paucity of whites that makes street ball competitions look like a snoop doggy dog rap concert."
Plus, I think that there are a great number of people living in northern countries who would take great offense at the portrayal of their athletes as somehow inferior based on the fact that they are white. Did the Gumble commentary make headlines: nope.
There is a double standard as far as racism is concerned.
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'He's not the emperor of black people!jsnipy wrote:
I think as long as white people go crawling to Jesse and Al every time they say something "backlashish", nothing will change. It seems almost like a game.
It's not really that funny if you look at the disparities between Americans in the majority and those in the minority. I would love for everyone to look at the difference in percentages of arrests, convictions, employment population, and wage parity. It's not a cop-out; it's a fact that there is some form of discrimination in this country and it is having a tangible effect on the livelihoods of every day Americans. I haven't seen anyone put up video of a Grand Wizard and say "see every white person is racist!!!" Instead, we find one nut job (every family has one) and say "look! They're as bad as we are." The example of Liberia is a red herring because the US is the richest country in the world. Every country in the world by comparison would not be as well-off as a whole; and I sincerely hope that no one is insinuating that people of African decent all over the world are inferior. That's already been discussed in other threads.superfly_cox wrote:
What's funny is that black people in America today are far better off than their African counterparts. Racism and discrimination (in America) is nothing when you compare it to disease, poverty, war, famine (in Africa).
What's even funnier is that the country of Liberia was founded as an independent nation for free-born and formerly enslaved African Americans. How'd that turn out?
Asian and Indian immigrants do fine in America. They also endure racism and discrimination but you don't see them bitching about it all the time. You also don't see them getting special minority perks even though they, too, are technically a minority. They work hard, don't blame others for their problems and make a life themselves.
exactly. why can't we all just get along instead of trying to blame other people for our problems, white or black. People who simply focus on the issue of race are cutting out 99% of the picture. We've all got bigger problems than what color of skin the person next to me has.Shopvac wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right, and instead of pointing fingers we should be asking ourselves what we're doing to make things better. Unless we're all invested in being part of the solution, then we're part of the problem.