Yep, that Eric Rudolph was a liberal.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
sad, does that stuff happen often in the UK ? here only the liberals act like retards.
Come on Turq, haven't you been paying attention? Eric Rudolph and his ilk are fringe crazies, not representative of conservative thought at all. On the other hand, any bad actors who in any way, shape or form espouse anything that might be considered a liberal idea are clearly representative of the whole of liberal/leftist thought. But it's not disingenous, it's the truth.Turquoise wrote:
Yep, that Eric Rudolph was a liberal.
Way too many posts to read!
Anyways, protesters always seem to not know how to act intelligently. "Durr, let's beat up/blow up/harass z" (where Z is your choice of group or building or person). Then when the cops (or in some cases, the military) reacts, it's suddenly "abuse of power" or "violating the rights to rally and protest." NEWS FLASH: As history has shown us, people who knowingly protest violently get their asses handed to them. Sure there are exceptions where even peaceful or righteous protesting is met with guns (or Saddam's chem weapons, or Pinochet's flamethrowers. I shit you not; my mom saw her friend and some other liberal journalists burned alive by Pinochet's paramilitary), but for the most part the "police brutality" is just the cops doing their jobs and getting sued by idiots for doing it.
Anyways, protesters always seem to not know how to act intelligently. "Durr, let's beat up/blow up/harass z" (where Z is your choice of group or building or person). Then when the cops (or in some cases, the military) reacts, it's suddenly "abuse of power" or "violating the rights to rally and protest." NEWS FLASH: As history has shown us, people who knowingly protest violently get their asses handed to them. Sure there are exceptions where even peaceful or righteous protesting is met with guns (or Saddam's chem weapons, or Pinochet's flamethrowers. I shit you not; my mom saw her friend and some other liberal journalists burned alive by Pinochet's paramilitary), but for the most part the "police brutality" is just the cops doing their jobs and getting sued by idiots for doing it.
i agree that "typically" liberals are for animal rights and whatnot, but that would be a broad generalization, something that on these boards seems to be criminal if you disagree with somebody. however, just because you want to conserve something the way it is, doesn't make you a conservative.IG-Calibre wrote:
cause you don't tend to get leftist Liberals swanning about the country on Horse back terrorising small animals - that's the domain of the rich right winged conservative in the UK - they are protesting to "conserve" a certain way of life (namely one that favours themselves) hence the term conservative..comet241 wrote:
fighting over hunting? sad. I wonder why you label them conservative, though?
As a point, i have known plenty of hardcore dems/libs who love to hunt here in the U.S. .... On the flip side, I know plenty of conservative/republicans who would argue strongly for animal rights. some of whom are vegetarian.
So, again, why are they all conservative?
Being American you are probably not familiar with hunting in the UK - it's mostly the sport of the gentrified Conservative right winged landed classes - is every single person there a conservative? no probably not, however, the Pro Hunting lobby in the UK would be very much considered a Conservative organisation with Conservative political backing and support, much akin to say the NRA. What the videos show is a conservative demonstration against the supposedly liberal Leftist government introducing the hunting ban.comet241 wrote:
i agree that "typically" liberals are for animal rights and whatnot, but that would be a broad generalization, something that on these boards seems to be criminal if you disagree with somebody. however, just because you want to conserve something the way it is, doesn't make you a conservative.IG-Calibre wrote:
cause you don't tend to get leftist Liberals swanning about the country on Horse back terrorising small animals - that's the domain of the rich right winged conservative in the UK - they are protesting to "conserve" a certain way of life (namely one that favours themselves) hence the term conservative..comet241 wrote:
fighting over hunting? sad. I wonder why you label them conservative, though?
As a point, i have known plenty of hardcore dems/libs who love to hunt here in the U.S. .... On the flip side, I know plenty of conservative/republicans who would argue strongly for animal rights. some of whom are vegetarian.
So, again, why are they all conservative?
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I've never heard of conservatives doing that... no...
but have you ever heard of the Kent State Shootings?
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before you flame... I know it wasn't exactly the same...
but a conservative administration DID ORDER the guardsmen to fire upon the students...
but have you ever heard of the Kent State Shootings?
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before you flame... I know it wasn't exactly the same...
but a conservative administration DID ORDER the guardsmen to fire upon the students...
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that point i will argue, as will many others.djphetal wrote:
kent state...
but a conservative administration DID ORDER the guardsmen to fire upon the students...