BF2S Forums 6 nato troops killed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6537545.stm

Right, because dropping bombs from planes is much less cowardly than spending a few hours digging up roads directly on the patrol route of your enemy with a high chance of detection?

It's a tragedy, of course, but that doesn't mean that it is any more or less tragic than the death of any soldiers killed in combat.

Last edited by UON (2007-04-08 11:32:30)

shadowkila wrote:

Lost Hope wrote:

shadowkila wrote:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/04/08/3953368-cp.html

6 Canadian troops killed on Easter, and all from a fucking roadside bomb, Muslim chicken shits.

Doesn't get much sadder then that,I know all you Americans are used to your troops dieing from IE D's, but still 6 in one shot is horrible.Makes me so angry.

Well happy fucking Easter to there family and to all.

P.s I hate Muslims.

The fuck Islam has to do with their death ?

You really think that the so called Talibans fight for Islam (or the insurgents in Iraq) fight for that ?

They fight for power, and religion is a tool for them.

I hate Muslims with a Passion, call me racist i really don't care. I think they should all be thrown out of Canada and not allowed back in at all, even if they were born here, gone BYE BYE.Maybe if there family goes back more than a couple of decades living here,Then maybe they can stay, but if we don't like there face fuck off get out and  go back to your shit hole of a country.

And people wonder how the world gets stereotypes of the West ingrained in their heads...

Damn that's a real shame about them troop's being killed, my heart goes out to their family's and friends.

shadowkila wrote:

Lost Hope wrote:

shadowkila wrote:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/04/08/3953368-cp.html

6 Canadian troops killed on Easter, and all from a fucking roadside bomb, Muslim chicken shits.

Doesn't get much sadder then that,I know all you Americans are used to your troops dieing from IE D's, but still 6 in one shot is horrible.Makes me so angry.

Well happy fucking Easter to there family and to all.

P.s I hate Muslims.

The fuck Islam has to do with their death ?

You really think that the so called Talibans fight for Islam (or the insurgents in Iraq) fight for that ?

They fight for power, and religion is a tool for them.

I hate Muslims with a Passion, call me racist i really don't care. I think they should all be thrown out of Canada and not allowed back in at all, even if they were born here, gone BYE BYE.Maybe if there family goes back more than a couple of decades living here,Then maybe they can stay, but if we don't like there face fuck off get out and  go back to your shit hole of a country.

Such an idiotic remark. I'll have to let my Canadian Muslim friends that they are no longer welcome in their own homeland.

Our soldiers should not be there anyway- They died in vain.

shadowkila wrote:

Lost Hope wrote:

shadowkila wrote:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/04/08/3953368-cp.html

6 Canadian troops killed on Easter, and all from a fucking roadside bomb, Muslim chicken shits.

Doesn't get much sadder then that,I know all you Americans are used to your troops dieing from IE D's, but still 6 in one shot is horrible.Makes me so angry.

Well happy fucking Easter to there family and to all.

P.s I hate Muslims.

The fuck Islam has to do with their death ?

You really think that the so called Talibans fight for Islam (or the insurgents in Iraq) fight for that ?

They fight for power, and religion is a tool for them.

I hate Muslims with a Passion, call me racist i really don't care. I think they should all be thrown out of Canada and not allowed back in at all, even if they were born here, gone BYE BYE.Maybe if there family goes back more than a couple of decades living here,Then maybe they can stay, but if we don't like there face fuck off get out and  go back to your shit hole of a country.

I understand your passion. I myself feel it about every other day, that mad sadness that comes when your countrymen are slaughtered.

The occupation is a failure because we have expected those people to embrace civilization and freedom.

They haven't, so they will lose many more before they find their way.

Your soldiers deaths were NOT in vain, and my heartfelt condolences.
Most of the troops I speak to actually believe in giving the Iraqi people a chance at freedom; that's what the mission has always been, despite what you might have heard.

Those people shall soon be left to their own devices ( no pun intended ), as the majority wishes.
Once the "surge" is declared a loss you might actually see fairly rapid withdraw.

I'd like to be on record as saying the American democratic party has behaved disgracefully in almost every aspect imaginable.
I will never forgive them for broadcasting dis-unity internationally, voting for things they then complaining about them  and acting in general being cowardly traitorous dogs.
The republicans have managed to look retarded and corrupt in almost every aspect imaginable, fucking christ.

But no, your people died for freedom and honor.
I don't care what anybody says to the contrary.

ATG wrote:

shadowkila wrote:

Lost Hope wrote:

The fuck Islam has to do with their death ?

You really think that the so called Talibans fight for Islam (or the insurgents in Iraq) fight for that ?

They fight for power, and religion is a tool for them.

I hate Muslims with a Passion, call me racist i really don't care. I think they should all be thrown out of Canada and not allowed back in at all, even if they were born here, gone BYE BYE.Maybe if there family goes back more than a couple of decades living here,Then maybe they can stay, but if we don't like there face fuck off get out and  go back to your shit hole of a country.

I understand your passion. I myself feel it about every other day, that mad sadness that comes when your countrymen are slaughtered.

The occupation is a failure because we have expected those people to embrace civilization and freedom.

They haven't, so they will lose many more before they find their way.

Your soldiers deaths were NOT in vain, and my heartfelt condolences.
Most of the troops I speak to actually believe in giving the Iraqi people a chance at freedom; that's what the mission has always been, despite what you might have heard.

Those people shall soon be left to their own devices ( no pun intended ), as the majority wishes.
Once the "surge" is declared a loss you might actually see fairly rapid withdraw.

I'd like to be on record as saying the American democratic party has behaved disgracefully in almost every aspect imaginable.
I will never forgive them for broadcasting dis-unity internationally, voting for things they then complaining about them  and acting in general being cowardly traitorous dogs.
The republicans have managed to look retarded and corrupt in almost every aspect imaginable, fucking christ.

But no, your people died for freedom and honor.
I don't care what anybody says to the contrary.

It was downright foolish to think these people to embrace change and a western flavour of democracy and freedom overnight.  The very fact Middle Eastern adventures has failed is poor planning and poor management of nearly every conceivable ideal.  Not to mention the very argument to go in war (bar Afghanistan) was ropey at best......Europe wasn't convinced....imagine how the Middle East perceived it?

Blame don't land squarely on the shoulder of the Iraqis/Arabs/Afghans, it is equally distributed between the occupiers and the occupied....Whitewashing blame with 'these people' is something i will not accept.

lastly, politicians will be politicians, the Dems are behaving exactly how the Rubs would have if the boot was on the other foot....Why you believe the Republicans would have behaved any different is beyond me.

I've never voted in my life, that's how much i hate politicans.

They are Sgt. Donald Lucas, Cpl. Christopher Paul Stannix (reservist), Cpl. Aaron E. Williams, Pte. Kevin Vincent Kennedy and Pte. David Robert Greenslade. The family of a sixth man requested that his name be withheld.

Four of the dead soldiers are members of the Royal Canadian Regiment, 2nd Battalion, based at CFB Gagetown in New Brunswick. Stannix is with the Halifax-based Princess Louise Fusiliers.

The event is described as the single largest one-day death toll suffered by Canadian troops since the campaign began in 2002.

The soldiers were killed Sunday afternoon local time when an apparent improvised explosive device detonated, striking their LAV-III armoured vehicle as they guarded a convoy about 75 kilometres west of Kandahar. That location is near the boundary between Kandahar and Helmand provinces.

I didn't respond to him because I saw that he was really angry, and debating against anger is a lose/lose situation. He needs to calm down and think about it again with a cooler head, things will be much more reasonable.

If only some members of this sub forum could do the same.

Jet Blast wrote:

Drakef wrote:

Our soldiers should not be there anyway- They died in vain.

In Afghanistan?  Why not?

So i had a little time to refresh over what i said yesterday and i was absolutely furious,six off our best Canadian armed force members killed by an IED truly makes me sad for there family and friends.

These soldiers knew that there lives were in danger everyday,they were inspired to help these Afghan people improve there quality of lives and they died doing something they loved and were proud of . My heart and my condolences goes out to these fine men who are doing something that i can not even imagine doing, such brave men.
We need to keep Giving soldiers the tools they need to win, support them no matter how bad it gets, and Canadians, we need to harden up a bit, we are at war. We are going to take losses, and we are going to inflict them.

It frustrates me so much that these chickenshit terrorists ways of fighting are so effective, and that they are really happy that they just killed some NATO troops.

I take back what i said about hating ALL Muslims but there are allot of these POS who live in our country's and think just like terrorists. There not ALL innocent my friends, so naive, you think that they don't help supply them with money or something somehow?

Last edited by shadowkila (2007-04-09 09:41:23)

ATG wrote:

m3thod wrote:

ATG wrote:

I understand your passion. I myself feel it about every other day, that mad sadness that comes when your countrymen are slaughtered.

The occupation is a failure because we have expected those people to embrace civilization and freedom.

They haven't, so they will lose many more before they find their way.

Your soldiers deaths were NOT in vain, and my heartfelt condolences.
Most of the troops I speak to actually believe in giving the Iraqi people a chance at freedom; that's what the mission has always been, despite what you might have heard.

Those people shall soon be left to their own devices ( no pun intended ), as the majority wishes.
Once the "surge" is declared a loss you might actually see fairly rapid withdraw.

I'd like to be on record as saying the American democratic party has behaved disgracefully in almost every aspect imaginable.
I will never forgive them for broadcasting dis-unity internationally, voting for things they then complaining about them  and acting in general being cowardly traitorous dogs.
The republicans have managed to look retarded and corrupt in almost every aspect imaginable, fucking christ.

But no, your people died for freedom and honor.
I don't care what anybody says to the contrary.

It was downright foolish to think these people to embrace change and a western flavour of democracy and freedom overnight.  The very fact Middle Eastern adventures has failed is poor planning and poor management of nearly every conceivable ideal.  Not to mention the very argument to go in war (bar Afghanistan) was ropey at best......Europe wasn't convinced....imagine how the Middle East perceived it?

Blame don't land squarely on the shoulder of the Iraqis/Arabs/Afghans, it is equally distributed between the occupiers and the occupied....Whitewashing blame with 'these people' is something i will not accept.

lastly, politicians will be politicians, the Dems are behaving exactly how the Rubs would have if the boot was on the other foot....Why you believe the Republicans would have behaved any different is beyond me.

I've never voted in my life, that's how much i hate politicans.

Well, at least your finally admitting the Iraqis are fucking it up too.

I've never denied it.   if we're going to play the blame game then it should at the very least be appropriated 50/50.

Mr.Pieeater wrote:

UON wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6537545.stm

Right, because dropping bombs from planes is much less cowardly than spending a few hours digging up roads directly on the patrol route of your enemy with a high chance of detection?

It's a tragedy, of course, but that doesn't mean that it is any more or less tragic than the death of any soldiers killed in combat.

Well, at least the terrorists have a target.  That is what he is getting at.  They may not be able to fire at the planes dropping the bombs, but there are certainly ground troops for them to target.  Meanwhile, they run around in civilian clothing and hide until someone comes by.  Now if the US and its allies were fighting like them, they would never have a target, now would they?? 

Your point is officially meaningless.

Since you missed my point, I hardly think you are qualified to make that judgement.  But I'll humour you and explain further whilst addressing some of the points you made.

"Civilian clothes" is an absolutely meaningless term, since when the Taleban were in control they wore exactly the same get-up.  And anyway, they aren't particularly well known for "hiding among civilians", since they've got huge mountain ranges which are quite effective at "hiding" their position.  And there are targets for the troops fighting the Taleban, and it may come as a suprise to you that there are actual battles where the Taleban has tried to storm positions with conventional weapons.  They always lose, because NATO just calls in air support and chews them up with attack choppers.  But they still try and attack military positions anyway, and their sole aim is idential to the NATO forces.  And that is simply to cause as much damage to the enemy as possible.

Mining roads is a well established tactic which has been used frequently by many of the NATO players in the past and all this talk that it is somehow more cowardly than any other method of killing is patently ridiculous.  The point I was trying to make is that if you consider it cowardly to use pre-planted anti-vehicle weapons, whether pressure or manually operated, then you must also consider precision airstrikes cowardly.  I didn't say, nor do I believe, that either are; my comment was to state that if you have a problem with one, then you should have a problem with both.

Last edited by UON (2007-04-09 12:41:04)