Drakef
Cheeseburger Logicist
+117|6575|Vancouver
I'm a liberal and a Liberal (see sig).

Great words.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6742|Global Command
Cougar, I feel your pain.


I lay it mostly at the feet of George Bush. I mean, the Jerry Falwells of the world aside, he really is a disgrace to the American public.

He lied about being a conservative. He uses military might based on his interpretation of religion. I could go on.


I have a special sort of hatred for those trying to ban Manger scenes from malls, and political correctness, that is matched only by my loathing of the hypocracy of the republican party.

I'd swing with you, but the public undermining of our troops in the field by the likes of Pelosi and her crowd leave me feeling like I just passed my lower intestinal tract and the ropey remains are trailing away from the toilet in a bloody coil.

God Bless help America.
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|6905|Calgary
ooohhh Liberal squared?
Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|6846|USA

ATG wrote:

Cougar, I feel your pain.


I lay it mostly at the feet of George Bush. I mean, the Jerry Falwells of the world aside, he really is a disgrace to the American public.

He lied about being a conservative. He uses military might based on his interpretation of religion. I could go on.


I have a special sort of hatred for those trying to ban Manger scenes from malls, and political correctness, that is matched only by my loathing of the hypocracy of the republican party.

I'd swing with you, but the public undermining of our troops in the field by the likes of Pelosi and her crowd leave me feeling like I just passed my lower intestinal tract and the ropey remains are trailing away from the toilet in a bloody coil.

God Bless help America.
I Completely and totally agree with you. I feel the Dems are fucking up the war even more. and the repubs arent helping either.

BTW. i dont consider myself a liberal or a conservative, im an other, because i feel different according to each debate.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6865|USA
Ya know is it me, or is there a lot of threads lately, started by liberals, that are either defensive in nature or looking for absolution??
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6985|PNW

lowing wrote:

Ya know is it me, or is there a lot of threads lately, started by liberals, that are either defensive in nature or looking for absolution??
Both sides have done their share.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6865|USA

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ya know is it me, or is there a lot of threads lately, started by liberals, that are either defensive in nature or looking for absolution??
Both sides have done their share.
I dunno, I honestly can not remember any conservative being offended by being called one....Maybe I am wrong though.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6742|Global Command

lowing wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ya know is it me, or is there a lot of threads lately, started by liberals, that are either defensive in nature or looking for absolution??
Both sides have done their share.
I dunno, I honestly can not remember any conservative being offended by being called one....Maybe I am wrong though.
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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6980|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Ty wrote:

Lables are pathetic, but what's more pathetic is Superslim trying to find a hole in Cougar's argument.
I found one.
What that your a redneck retard that completely proves his point every time you post. Yeah you sure showed him good!!!

Cougar first time i completely agree with you. The American conservatives on this site are war mongering red necks.
13rin
Member
+977|6692

Cougar wrote:

What the fuck is your problem?  Over the past month, I've slowly swayed from the right side to the left side for one main reason:

Most of the conservatives here and elsewhere are a bunch of fucking idiots.  Rednecks, Warmongers and just flat out morons, that couldn't think for themselves if they tried.
Wow.  What a bigoted, stereotypical statement.  I guess that is my problem with liberals like you.  I don't agree with you 100 percent so I'm wrong and how dare me -then you throw bullshit like that at us.

Cougar wrote:

Just yesterday I was telling someone how I wasn't a liberal, because I've always had right from center views and had always generalized my self as a conservative.  Then as I though about it last night.....I'm not.  In fact, I'm very liberal.  I find myself disagreeing with conservatives much more than liberals and to me, most of this stuff just seems like common sense.  For instance:

fadedsteve has this image posted into his signature along with a republican elephant..
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Fight Liberalism

Well, do you even know what Liberalism is?

wiki wrote:

Liberalism refers to a broad array of related doctrines, ideologies, philosophical views, and political traditions which hold that individual liberty is the primary political value Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment, but the term has taken on different meanings in different time periods.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights. It seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power (especially of government and religion), the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports free private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected. In modern society, liberals favor a liberal democracy with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law and an equal opportunity to succeed.

dictionary.com wrote:

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberty.
So basically you want to fight against liberty?  Against personal freedom and so forth?  Basically you want to fight against the constitution, because that is the most liberal document we have, it basically defines liberalism.  You would like to fight the Bill Of Rights as well?  I'm not just attacking fadedsteve, most of you see the word "Liberal" and attack like rabid dogs, mainly because your all a bunch of fucking idiots, you attack because you think of radical liberals like Al Franken and his Air America cronies or weed smoking hippies.  Instead you should be thinking of John Locke, Thomas Payne or Franklin Roosevelt.
It is too bad that liberals today aren't Locke, Payne or Frankie.  They are Pelosi, Kerry and Kennedy.  If you think that FDR would have ever under minded the troop like the Dems are now then I misjudged you.

Cougar wrote:

The majority of Conservatives now a days, seem to think that they are always correct, no matter what, and if you disagree you are un-American.  That stupidity spills over into these forums DAILY.  In reality and in common sense, descent is more American than comforming, tolerating or following.  Not to say all conservatives are bad, just as not all liberals are bad, for instance, ATG is a very open minded conservative and has firm beliefs, yet he respects the beliefs and opinions that I have and vise versa.   By protesting or challenging you are exercising half you Bill Of Rights at once, Freedom of Speech, Protest, Petition, as well as using programs granted to you by your own government such as the Freedom of Information Act and other such programs.  But we liberals are the un-american, un-patriotic, soft-hearted terrorist supporting crybabies.
Meh.  I could write the same about what libs say about cons. wait  I did just above....  As a matter of fact liberals have some good plans, just as do the conservatives.   

cougar wrote:

Yeah, hows about no.  I'd rather put my stock into reason, liberty and common sense, rather than baby Jesus, the Almighty Bush Clan and lying politicians.

Goodbye right wing, hello left wing.
Then why the fuck are you buying into the defeatist liberal propaganda?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6704|Menlo Park, CA
Liberalism is a mental disorder. . .

I love how the libs on this forum always say, "I feel". . . ."I feel we should commit our economic resources entirely on theory of global warming"  As opposed to saying "Well, based on scientic FACT I think we should THINK about going either this way or that way. . . "

Liberals always act, say, do, on their feelings, without a rational ability to decifer whether that may or may not be the correct course of action.  Those opposed to their liberal/socialist agenda, are flat out wrong, and their is no arguing.

Either way its fun arguing with you Euro liberals cause you guys just have no clue. . . .In regards to the American liberals on these forums, I just think "If you want to live in a socialist society, move to Canada or Europe, cause the USA aint' changing into some socialist utopia anytime soon!" (p.s. their is no such thing as a socialist utopia, sorry guys)

personal note: I love my sig, its finally perfected!! lol
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6980|UK

fadedsteve wrote:

Liberalism is a mental disorder. . .

I love how the libs on this forum always say, "I feel". . . ."I feel we should commit our economic resources entirely on theory of global warming"  As opposed to saying "Well, based on scientic FACT I think we should THINK about going either this way or that way. . . "

Liberals always act, say, do, on their feelings, without a rational ability to decifer whether that may or may not be the correct course of action.  Those opposed to their liberal/socialist agenda, are flat out wrong, and their is no arguing.

Either way its fun arguing with you Euro liberals cause you guys just have no clue. . . .In regards to the American liberals on these forums, I just think "If you want to live in a socialist society, move to Canada or Europe, cause the USA aint' changing into some socialist utopia anytime soon!" (p.s. their is no such thing as a socialist utopia, sorry guys)

personal note: I love my sig, its finally perfected!! lol
lol yeah all about feelings with liberals...

i think your ignoring one thing that shows it isnt just liberals, how about the Iraq war you dolt.
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|6977

Ty wrote:

Boomerjinks wrote:

What I really love is when political suggestion and commentary is reduced to "no, fuck you!."
I thought that's all politics was about.

Superslim, stop torturing me with the Eighties, I'm sorry I was a dick!
i need to go drink a half bottle of rum after that last one
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|6977
Ok, so here is something you guys might want to know.  The largest factor in global warming is not carbondioxide but methane.  Methane isn't released the most from a cow's butt but from the Siberean tundra.  Methane is frozen underneath the surface there but due to natural cycles in the Earth's environment and atmosphere.

Another note is that Republican and Democrate are now bastardize terms in American politics.  Republicans is used to describe a person who likes to think of their state as a republic, democrates a democratic nation.  These two types of government pretty much have zero chance of reappearing in American Society in my opinion.  The politicians have taken the constitution and changed it to their will.  The constitution had Congress as the largest and most powerful of the three branches, since the New Deal (Theodore Roosevelt) the President has been emerging as a larger and larger branch of government.  The legsilative branch, the Supreme Court, managed to make itself even more powerful under the third chief justice by saying that it could interpert the consitution and tell congress what was and wasn't constitutional.

All of these factors plus the large polarization of the "two" parties, something the founding fathers had tried hard to avoid at all were political parties, mean that the current American political system is doomed.  The New Deal gave people a cruch with which to walk.  It was needed when it was implimented but was never taken away.  Think of it as if a person was to break their leg, they can't be expected to walk on it right away and are given a cruch.  As their leg heals they need the cruch less and less and start walking on their own again.  Finally when the leg is healed they take away the cruches and the person walks on their own.  If the cruches aren't taken away then the legs will weaken again and won't be able to stand on their own without a kick to jumpstar them.  This applies to the U.S. population who are now leaning on the welfare and other cruches provided by the government that is no longer needed in such a great amount.  They won't walk on their own again unless they get cattle prodded in that direction.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6988|Noizyland

Everyone in this thread clean up your act and remember the rules on flaming . Thank-you.
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usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6580|Columbus, Ohio
Let's see.  Name calling, generalization, flaming, etc.

Hmmm....

I am convinced, it too will join you, sounds like fun.
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|6977

Ty wrote:

Everyone in this thread clean up your act and remember the rules on flaming . Thank-you.
I'm trying to be good, I promise.  Actually I am keeping myself from studing for two midterms and a paper.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6580|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Ty wrote:

Lables are pathetic, but what's more pathetic is Superslim trying to find a hole in Cougar's argument.
I found one.
What that your a redneck retard that completely proves his point every time you post. Yeah you sure showed him good!!!

Cougar first time i completely agree with you. The American conservatives on this site are war mongering red necks.
Very mature.  You proved you are above the labeling people in the conservative party and are above name calling.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6810|Seattle

Fuck this thread.


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