Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6990|Texas - Bigger than France
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17896952/

I've been to a few protests and I've seen fists pumped in the air, but never run into a rock-toting angry Islamic crowd.  I've posted this because it seems like everytime there is a protest the rocks are flyin'.

So is it tradition to throw rocks in protest?  Or is it media bias?

Why does it seem that Islamic public demostrations are violent with rock-tossing?  Remember the time when the churches were buring because offense taken by what the Pope said?
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6922|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND
About time these punks had something better to do tbh, racist bastards.
Varegg
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Give them guns and make it more interesting !
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Skorpy-chan
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And yet it's called 'firing on civillians' if we respond to rocks with bullets, or 'physical abuse' if you throw them back.

Why doesen't anybody protest with water balloons? They're FAR more fun, and hitting a soldier in the head with one will piss him off less than a rock.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6738|Éire

Pug wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17896952/

I've been to a few protests and I've seen fists pumped in the air, but never run into a rock-toting angry Islamic crowd.  I've posted this because it seems like everytime there is a protest the rocks are flyin'.

So is it tradition to throw rocks in protest?  Or is it media bias?

Why does it seem that Islamic public demostrations are violent with rock-tossing?  Remember the time when the churches were buring because offense taken by what the Pope said?
Peaceful protests by Muslims don't make for exciting television and thus do not usually get on the news so the fact that we only ever see Muslim protests where violence breaks out could technically be described as a form of media bias.

I was at a Muslim march in London recently, no rocks were thrown and unsurprisingly it was not covered on the evening news.

Last edited by Braddock (2007-04-01 14:30:53)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7049|132 and Bush

Lets not forget what happened to the American embassy in 1979. I'm not trying to add to the fear, but it is important that we acknowledge what has happened before when students stormed an embassy in Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
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GunSlinger OIF II
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rocks fucking hurt
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6990|Texas - Bigger than France
Do I hear a "sticks and stones"?  Anyone, anyone?
ghettoperson
Member
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

rocks fucking hurt
I take it you've done your share of subduing angry mobs?
GunSlinger OIF II
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"subdue" lol....more like ignore. an infantry platoon really cant do any kind of subduing if less than lethal is the goal.  every time we got pelted with rocks,  we took em.   we would fire warning shots, but haji knows our ROE better than we do.  so they keep throwing, knowing that we wouldnt be allowed to use deadly force. my experience with rock throwing, you make fun of the guy who thinks he's been shot after its over.  "IM HIT!!!!!"  "NO YOUR NOT, ITS A ROCK!!!"
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7049|132 and Bush

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

"subdue" lol....more like ignore. an infantry platoon really cant do any kind of subduing if less than lethal is the goal.  every time we got pelted with rocks,  we took em.   we would fire warning shots, but haji knows our ROE better than we do.  so they keep throwing, knowing that we wouldnt be allowed to use deadly force. my experience with rock throwing, you make fun of the guy who thinks he's been shot after its over.  "IM HIT!!!!!"  "NO YOUR NOT, ITS A ROCK!!!"
Throw the rocks back? Does that violate?
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Braddock
Agitator
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200 people is not a very big crowd. What fraction of the Iranian population is that ...anyone?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6990|Texas - Bigger than France

Braddock wrote:

200 people is not a very big crowd. What fraction of the Iranian population is that ...anyone?
What's your point?  That Iran loves the UK?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
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Braddock wrote:

200 people is not a very big crowd. What fraction of the Iranian population is that ...anyone?
0.000285% I think.

That's hardly an excuse.
GunSlinger OIF II
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Kmarion wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

"subdue" lol....more like ignore. an infantry platoon really cant do any kind of subduing if less than lethal is the goal.  every time we got pelted with rocks,  we took em.   we would fire warning shots, but haji knows our ROE better than we do.  so they keep throwing, knowing that we wouldnt be allowed to use deadly force. my experience with rock throwing, you make fun of the guy who thinks he's been shot after its over.  "IM HIT!!!!!"  "NO YOUR NOT, ITS A ROCK!!!"
Throw the rocks back? Does that violate?
not at all.  but that cculd be deemed as an offensive action.  i mean shit,  youll have a bunch of videos of youtube showing Americans throwing rocks at a bunch of iraqis with the iraqis throwing rocks at Americans not being recorded.  you familiar with the term "escalation of force" ? but now i hear about guys bring with them slingshots and airsoft guns to use at the rock throwing population.  when i was in country we traded a kalishnikov that we captured in a raid a few days prior for a BB gun that we found in some iraqis car during a snap TCP (random road checkpoint)  at first, the iraqi dude didnt wanna take the AK, but then when we convinced him that we were genuine, he took it and handed us the bb gun.  i got kick out of that lil episode. A BB gun for an AK47 assault rfle,  where else in the world would you find a trade like....i should write a book.  we didnt even use the bb gun for the rock throwers either.  we got it for the stray dogs that always bark at us and give away our position at night but then it broke a few days later and just turned in to a souvenir.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-04-01 14:42:05)

Braddock
Agitator
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Pug wrote:

Braddock wrote:

200 people is not a very big crowd. What fraction of the Iranian population is that ...anyone?
What's your point?  That Iran loves the UK?
My point is if only 200 people are turning out to express their emotions on the sailors issue it would suggest there isn't very much support or strong feeling either way on the issue. It's also an example of the media making a mountain out of a mole hill. i go past the Dail (Government Offices) in Dublin most days and it's not a rare sight to see 200 people protesting on some issue or another.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6990|Texas - Bigger than France
Yep, that's exactly why I don't understand the standard "baseball card" photo of the agitator in mid-toss always is the one in the paper...you never know how big the issue is (ps. it is pretty big).
Braddock
Agitator
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Pug wrote:

Yep, that's exactly why I don't understand the standard "baseball card" photo of the agitator in mid-toss always is the one in the paper...you never know how big the issue is (ps. it is pretty big).
It is a big story but my headline would read: "only 200 people turn out to protest at British embassy in Tehran". And I would film it in a slightly wider shot for TV to show the empty streets on either side of the small gathering.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6990|Texas - Bigger than France
You wouldn't make it as a newsman
BVC
Member
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Threaten to throw handfuls of diced pork into the crowd?
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
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Lets ban rocks.
BVC
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Spud cannon filled with pork chops!
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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If I grew up there I know I would have tossed a few.

Back when they just tossed some rocks ( in the 60s and 70s ) we should have talked to them.
we had years but powerfull lobbies in the USA sqeulched any attempt. To late now, The Wars begun...win it or figure out which side your on because its gonna get bigger if we bail.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-04-01 15:33:14)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7049|132 and Bush

Pubic wrote:

Threaten to throw handfuls of diced pork into the crowd?
That would disperse all Muslims and Jews at the same time.
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CannonFodder11b
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Skorpy-chan wrote:

And yet it's called 'firing on civillians' if we respond to rocks with bullets, or 'physical abuse' if you throw them back.

Why doesen't anybody protest with water balloons? They're FAR more fun, and hitting a soldier in the head with one will piss him off less than a rock.
Thats why some of us lucky troops have FN 303's.Nothing says "back the fuck up", like a hard plastic paintball round, fired at 500FPS.  (Such an evil less then lethal launcher, but oooh so fun )

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