BF2S Forums Who is your god?

Braddock wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

In order for life to have appeared spontaneously on earth, there first had to be hundreds of millions of protein molecules of the ninth configuration. But given the size of the planet Earth, do you know how long it would have taken for just one of these protein molecules to appear entirely by chance? Roughly ten to the two hundred and forty-third power billions of years. And I find that far, far more fantastic than simply believing in God.

Just for your information, that is demonstrable thing, in the near future... super computers and chemical modeling, & physical experiments are being done right now - to that end. The abiogenisis problem is an experiment that is being done right now (5-15 years +/-, for results). If you think Evolution is something you either believe in or you don't. It isn't.

But that in no way conflicts with belief in God.

That's actually a quote from the movie 'The Ninth Configuration' (http://imdb.com/title/tt0081237/), which is actually quite in favour of the idea of a God but I liked that quote as it kind of sums up my attitude to the universe. There is so much in this life that is truly, truly amazing that to give some 'God-figure' all the credit is just too easy. Why is Mother Nature not treated like a God in the traditional sense? There is much more tangible evidence in this life of 'Mother Nature'. I worship science and reality, I find them amazing.

Actually myself - maybe it's something similar, excepting I also find immense value in the stories, myths, traditions, of all religions...

And sorry for missing the awe-factor (I was doing some work at the same time, and missed that), I am in awe and wonder when contemplating the complexity of Evolution, Mathematics, Physics, the Cosmos...

My only criticism of God conceptually is the knowing it part. It irks me to think people so easily claim knowledge of the mystery of all-being. That they could possible conceive of a reality for transcendence & what that is, or worse to claim certainty of / or in "faith" ... To me it is best explained as the unexplained; the effect of effects that is the source of all things - we seem infinitely distanced from and yet immediately and instantaneously connected to.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-03-07 16:40:13)

Nobody, nothing. I have my reasons.

1984 is a joke.

Sad part is, 1984 is the most intelligent thing kids read in HS. Although I was a fan of Animal Farm. One of the best books ever written.

I find it odd that in a time where everyone is chastised for not being polite and respect one anothers ideas that people are yet share that idea about religion. I hope I have done nothing to encroach upon the religous beliefs of others and If I have I apologize for it. I am Catholic, others aren't and I"m cool with that.

Cameron, you know that you are unbelievable. Jehovah and Allah are not the same gods. Their personality is
different and so on. Go on believing what you say is right. IMO you are completely of the mark but that is not my problem.

I am God, my own personal God. I believe in and love myself more than all others. My god doesn't make me feel guilty about the way I led my life. His main concern is to make me happy.............so I can make others happy. We are taught that loving yourself is secondary to making others happy which is the road to inner turmoil. I am accountable to myself and no one else. When I do something wrong, its my fault, the buck stops here.

In saying that, everyone is entitled to their views and should be entitled to express them in anyway they see fit, as long as it doesn't inflict on other peoples personal views. IE not shoving your brand of religion in peoples faces or judging them because they are different...............that's religious racism/bigotry and its whats wrong with the world.

Cameron, I think I am stopping argueing with a person like you. You simply can not argue is a proper way.
You have an opinion and nobody can not change that.

Well, then it must be true.

Birth Religion: Anglican.

2006 Census Religion: Jedi.

Religion I "believe" in now: Pastafarianism

Stingray24 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

stef10 wrote:

Cameron, you know that you are unbelievable. Jehovah and Allah are not the same gods. Their personality is
different and so on. Go on believing what you say is right. IMO you are completely of the mark but that is not my problem.

Their personality is different? What like Allah is a bit of a joker, life and soul of the party, and Jehovah is kind of reserved but comes out of his shell amongst friends? LOLORAMA

No, it's not your problem: your problem is religion.

Please refer to the differences between the deities in my previous post, those differences could be called personality.

The concept is the same - the one true god - the belief in how that deity comports itself differs amongst the different Abrahamic faiths. It doesn't mean that the god itself is different for each.

I  would have to say the Earth and ever-loving infinity.

Stingray24 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Please refer to the differences between the deities in my previous post, those differences could be called personality.

The concept is the same - the one true god - the belief in how that deity comports itself differs amongst the different Abrahamic faiths. It doesn't mean that the god itself is different for each.

That's like saying the polytheistic faiths are all the same when they are obvious distinctions in doctrine and practice.

Except that the root doctrine of those faiths do not match each other, unlike the root doctrine of Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

Jesus Christ...Jehovah.

enough said.