sheaah! the QBZ-95 is so good! most accurate gun in the game aside from sniper rifles.Krappyappy wrote:
the bf2 ak47 is pretty damned inaccurate outside of 100 meters.
my favorite is the QBZ-95. that thing is ridiculously accurate even on full auto. i wish it was an unlock so i could always use it.
hey hey, 88's, the germans used 88's in WWII, i think you just went back 60 years mate : )Aquastorm wrote:
Throw away the old AKs, get with the times! The Chinese army uses Type 88's now! Yes! Type 88s in Assualt with a gernade luancher! The 88's a sniper (havn't seen on in real life yet) and as a LMG but usuaully as a assualt rifle, like a AK or a M16 or a G3......
God, EA must've got the AK idea back in the Vietnam war or something.
Riight, they owned Hong Kong for 99 years (ended in 1997), they basicly bulit HK from the ground up, if it wasn't for the Brits (and their tea and scones) we would've been pulling rickshaws and no as much of a economical advandtage. As if they're going to fight for something they hardly ever wanted. HAH.War Man wrote:
Nah British vs. Chinese is more sensible.
Euro Force FTWishbu wrote:
i want a famas
maybe EA can stop boning off to the g36/g3
Hello, We're talking about the CHINESE army here.$kelet0r wrote:
How come no love for the Steyr Aug
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm
or the Sig 550
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as25-e.htm
The Steyr Aug beautiful gun and immensely powerful rifle - recognised as one if not the very best assault rifles in the world
plus standard issue of the Irish army
Funny, I had no problem hitting a 4 inch target on a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper at 100 yards with my M1 Garand in below freezing weather. Or hitting a siloutte at 300 with my AR-15. I do think the accuracy of all long arms in the game need to be tweeked. I prefer using the pistol over the sub guns the AT guy is stuck with.BiRdMaN829 wrote:
100 meters is also a pretty damn near impossible shot without a scoped weapon. And by impossible I mean impossible to make with any kind of consistency.Krappyappy wrote:
the bf2 ak47 is pretty damned inaccurate outside of 100 meters.
This is what happened to the CAR-15.chickenmuncher wrote:
Whatever happen to Car-15s?
Ak- 47s are being modernized everytime and British and American forces are still using it nowadays..Aquastorm wrote:
Throw away the old AKs, get with the times! The Chinese army uses Type 88's now! Yes! Type 88s in Assualt with a gernade luancher! The 88's a sniper (havn't seen on in real life yet) and as a LMG but usuaully as a assualt rifle, like a AK or a M16 or a G3......
God, EA must've got the AK idea back in the Vietnam war or something.
LMAO !!! Yeah go ahead and try putting 5.45 x39 into an AK-47 and see what happens . That is if it will even fire . The 5.45x39 will just slide down the barrle and fall out onto the ground lol . I think what you mean is that there are several differnet countries that make ammo for AK-47's and there are several countries that make variants of AK-47's . There are Romainian , chec , Chineese , polish , and Iraqi variants of AK-47's . They all use 7.62x39 . You can use any combo from any coutry with another countries ammo , it's all good . But putting anything other then 7.62x39 in there and you asking for trouble . And WTF are you talking about ??? Of course HK makes full auto's . Shot a many full auto from HK . Or is it that just the police force has no full autos ? Sounds wierd .Aquastorm wrote:
M16 and Ak47s are roughly the same, but I've heard that the AK47 takes any and all forms of ammo, if it fits into it, then it can shoot it, while the M16 can only fire it's own bullets. At least that's what the HK Police Academy taught me. (Shame HK only has semi-autos..all full autos are banned! ((excluding the Chinese Garrison))) It be good if HK was in a SF map, imagine the feeling of seeing a tank and able to fire a rocket straight down onto it's turret (and hopefully) the machine gunner.
Normal BF2:
Chinese vs. USMC
Special Forces:
Navy Seals vs. MEC special forces. Would be sweet...and the layering of the bulding would be grapple-hook/zipline heaven! With tanks zipping around buildings and squads of helicopters driven into buildings by noobs!
Nah. 100m is a gimme shot with a rifle and iron sights. If you can't hit that you should put the rifle away and go home. Plenty of military shooters can hit 300 yard targets regularly with iron sights (I can hit them with iron sights about 35%-40% of the time, and hit 100m 100% of the time if visibility conditions don't suck)BiRdMaN829 wrote:
100 meters is also a pretty damn near impossible shot without a scoped weapon. And by impossible I mean impossible to make with any kind of consistency.Krappyappy wrote:
the bf2 ak47 is pretty damned inaccurate outside of 100 meters.
Talking IRL, not game:Eckzack wrote:
My father build in the former German Democratic Republic (my birth-country) in an factory AK47´s for Russia.
It´s a very accurate rifle and it´s the most solid rifle of the world, even with todays standards...
As has already been noted, it will NOT fire any ammo, it will only fire 7.62x39whittsend wrote:
The AK 47 is the most numerically important weapon in the world. You can't walk ten feet without tripping over one in many countries. We confiscated truckloads of them in Iraq. It's manufactured in many countries, in many different versions, and was given out like candy. It's made out of stamped metal, so it's cheap, but the same low tolerances that make it reliable, make it inaccurate. It is a myth that it doesn't jam, but it does take a hell of a beating before doing so. Much more than any western weapon, because western weapons have fine tolerances to increase accuracy; so a little bit of sand jams up those finely milled parts. Unfortunately (for the weapon), a lot of its unintended users give it that beating and more, but they dont know how to disassemble or clean it, so it never gets cleaned. Eventually it does fail and jam. I had several in Iraq that would fire once, then jam, every time.
First off not all AK-47's are stamped . Valmet for instance makes a milled reciever . As far as stamped AK's not being accurate - define accurate . Define inaccurate . The AK was designed for street to street assault stlye fighting . How accurate does one need to be at 20 yards ? 40 yards ?whittsend wrote:
Nah. 100m is a gimme shot with a rifle and iron sights. If you can't hit that you should put the rifle away and go home. Plenty of military shooters can hit 300 yard targets regularly with iron sights (I can hit them with iron sights about 35%-40% of the time, and hit 100m 100% of the time if visibility conditions don't suck)BiRdMaN829 wrote:
100 meters is also a pretty damn near impossible shot without a scoped weapon. And by impossible I mean impossible to make with any kind of consistency.Krappyappy wrote:
the bf2 ak47 is pretty damned inaccurate outside of 100 meters.Talking IRL, not game:Eckzack wrote:
My father build in the former German Democratic Republic (my birth-country) in an factory AK47´s for Russia.
It´s a very accurate rifle and it´s the most solid rifle of the world, even with todays standards...
I don't know what other weapons you have been firing, but the AK-47 isn't that great. It certainly isn't solid, or accurate...it's made out of STAMPED metal! There's no way a rifle can be made that cheaply and be accurate.
Here's what I wrote about the AK in a different thread:As has already been noted, it will NOT fire any ammo, it will only fire 7.62x39whittsend wrote:
The AK 47 is the most numerically important weapon in the world. You can't walk ten feet without tripping over one in many countries. We confiscated truckloads of them in Iraq. It's manufactured in many countries, in many different versions, and was given out like candy. It's made out of stamped metal, so it's cheap, but the same low tolerances that make it reliable, make it inaccurate. It is a myth that it doesn't jam, but it does take a hell of a beating before doing so. Much more than any western weapon, because western weapons have fine tolerances to increase accuracy; so a little bit of sand jams up those finely milled parts. Unfortunately (for the weapon), a lot of its unintended users give it that beating and more, but they dont know how to disassemble or clean it, so it never gets cleaned. Eventually it does fail and jam. I had several in Iraq that would fire once, then jam, every time.
whittsend wrote:
Nah. 100m is a gimme shot with a rifle and iron sights. If you can't hit that you should put the rifle away and go home. Plenty of military shooters can hit 300 yard targets regularly with iron sights (I can hit them with iron sights about 35%-40% of the time, and hit 100m 100% of the time if visibility conditions don't suck)BiRdMaN829 wrote:
100 meters is also a pretty damn near impossible shot without a scoped weapon. And by impossible I mean impossible to make with any kind of consistency.Krappyappy wrote:
the bf2 ak47 is pretty damned inaccurate outside of 100 meters.Talking IRL, not game:Eckzack wrote:
My father build in the former German Democratic Republic (my birth-country) in an factory AK47´s for Russia.
It´s a very accurate rifle and it´s the most solid rifle of the world, even with todays standards...
I don't know what other weapons you have been firing, but the AK-47 isn't that great. It certainly isn't solid, or accurate...it's made out of STAMPED metal! There's no way a rifle can be made that cheaply and be accurate.
Here's what I wrote about the AK in a different thread:As has already been noted, it will NOT fire any ammo, it will only fire 7.62x39whittsend wrote:
The AK 47 is the most numerically important weapon in the world. You can't walk ten feet without tripping over one in many countries. We confiscated truckloads of them in Iraq. It's manufactured in many countries, in many different versions, and was given out like candy. It's made out of stamped metal, so it's cheap, but the same low tolerances that make it reliable, make it inaccurate. It is a myth that it doesn't jam, but it does take a hell of a beating before doing so. Much more than any western weapon, because western weapons have fine tolerances to increase accuracy; so a little bit of sand jams up those finely milled parts. Unfortunately (for the weapon), a lot of its unintended users give it that beating and more, but they dont know how to disassemble or clean it, so it never gets cleaned. Eventually it does fail and jam. I had several in Iraq that would fire once, then jam, every time.
Manufacturing: Every AK I have ever run into in enemy hands was stamped (and I have personally handled over 1000 confiscated weapons). If somebody makes a milled one, I'd say that was very unusual. Simply, it is a cheap weapon. It performs very well for what it is...a mass(ively) produced peasants weapon, designed for short range, low maintenance combat.jonnykill wrote:
First off not all AK-47's are stamped . Valmet for instance makes a milled reciever . As far as stamped AK's not being accurate - define accurate . Define inaccurate . The AK was designed for street to street assault stlye fighting . How accurate does one need to be at 20 yards ? 40 yards ?
As far as jamming yeah AK's jam but no other rifle in the world even comes close to AK's when jamming is concerned . I bought an AK-103 and fired roughly 3,000 to 4,000 rounds through it without cleaning it before I got my first jam . I was even "bumping it " here and there . As far as being solid ? True Russian AK's are solid as Fark - stamped or not . Thoes Iraqi , Romanian , Turkish and checi POS's - yeah thoes are what I call collectors items .