AtomicMoose
Member
+18|6371
The hardest award stuff has been done, quite a lot in fact (search it), but they all go on and on about the war college ribbon being one of the hardest as it takes forever to get that mount of command points blah blah blah blah blah. But thinking about it, it isn't actually that hard. You simply herm in the commander position and forgo your life. Then you have the badge. I'm wondering what the hardest award is in terms of SKILL alone, not because it will take forever. I have a good feeling its the expert explosives ordinance, without ff off.
My top three would be:
1. Expert explosives
2. Expert engineer (20 repair points in one round is ridiculous)
3. BF2: SF Expert Engineer Specialist without vehicle whoring (44 kills IAR with a shotgun? I don't think so.)
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|6781|Nårvei

AtomicMoose wrote:

The hardest award stuff has been done, quite a lot in fact (search it), but they all go on and on about the war college ribbon being one of the hardest as it takes forever to get that mount of command points blah blah blah blah blah. But thinking about it, it isn't actually that hard. You simply herm in the commander position and forgo your life. Then you have the badge. I'm wondering what the hardest award is in terms of SKILL alone, not because it will take forever. I have a good feeling its the expert explosives ordinance, without ff off.
My top three would be:
1. Expert explosives
2. Expert engineer (20 repair points in one round is ridiculous)
3. BF2: SF Expert Engineer Specialist without vehicle whoring (44 kills IAR with a shotgun? I don't think so.)
Have all 3 with roughly the requirements you put down and cant remember them being that hard to get either and expert repair was 25 repairs IAR when i got it

Would rank Expert Air, Helo and the Medal of Valor higher than those 3, and not to forget the War College Ribbon before it was tweaked !

Last edited by Varegg (2007-02-27 14:41:00)

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Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6537|England

- Expert Knife on the old requirements.

But as thats no longer around!

- Expert Repair Badge
- Expert Pistol (without being a PK faggot)
- Expert Engineer and/or AT Specialist (without PK/vehicles/arty)

Although I actually have all of those

Last edited by Snake (2007-02-27 14:41:50)

JetSniper
R.I.P [EPIC]Pfcguinn
+113|6307

Snake wrote:

- Expert Knife on the old requirements.

But as thats no longer around!

- Expert Repair Badge
- Expert Pistol (without being a PK faggot)
- Expert Engineer and/or AT Specialist (without PK/vehicles/arty)

Although I actually have all of those
what was the old Expert Knife requirments?

the hardest was expert explosives for me. My claymoores seem to never go off so i had to c4 everyone on wake
Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd
Member
+169|6717|Mexico City
Commander expert is so easy now. All u  need is patience.
Way before last patch is was very hard cause it depended of WL ratio. Only teamswitchers did that badge then.

The only difficult is expert repair, cause the time it takes to get 1 misserably repair point.

expert explosives can be done as a suicide c4 or claymore whore at karkand or warlord 64 servers.

All the other ones are not hard.

Last edited by Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd (2007-02-27 14:55:50)

Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|6781|Nårvei

ChevyLee86 wrote:

Snake wrote:

- Expert Knife on the old requirements.

But as thats no longer around!

- Expert Repair Badge
- Expert Pistol (without being a PK faggot)
- Expert Engineer and/or AT Specialist (without PK/vehicles/arty)

Although I actually have all of those
what was the old Expert Knife requirments?

the hardest was expert explosives for me. My claymoores seem to never go off so i had to c4 everyone on wake
They removed the IAR requirements of 18 knifekills.
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UnknownRanger
Squirrels, natures little speedbump.
+610|6316|Cali
expert heal.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6537|England

Varegg wrote:

ChevyLee86 wrote:

Snake wrote:

- Expert Knife on the old requirements.

But as thats no longer around!

- Expert Repair Badge
- Expert Pistol (without being a PK faggot)
- Expert Engineer and/or AT Specialist (without PK/vehicles/arty)

Although I actually have all of those
what was the old Expert Knife requirments?

the hardest was expert explosives for me. My claymoores seem to never go off so i had to c4 everyone on wake
They removed the IAR requirements of 18 knifekills.
Yep. Now its just a total of 100 knife kills. 

Respect for anyone who got it the old way.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6677|67.222.138.85
Some would rate the expert knife/pistol, I didn't think those were too bad but maybe.

Medal of Valor doesn't really take a lot of skill to actually make the animation come up, but damn you have a lot of experience after getting those numbers needed.

Probably expert repair, though Vet was easy after I figured out to follow armor whores around in a car.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6450|Somewhere else

IF we're talking about whoring being o.k. but stat padding NOT, I'd say expert pistol.  OLD expert knife was one sneaky hit, one kill 18 times, not easy, but possible.  pistol, for me was worse, it takes the right hit and quick kill or you're toast.  I know the whole Sniper Rifle/pistol method, but that's still not too easy.

Repair is just a bitch, knowing where and what to whore for points.  I'd guess the best method is find a 1/3 full 64 man server, and find some enemy team that is c4 happy or AT kit happy.   I've never tried to get epxert repair, its just boring and frustrating.

Expert Heal is a breeze.  IO Jalalabad that allows uncap raping and wait by your squad and throw like mad.

most of the awards is just time.   I never fly anything, so all the chopper/jet awards might never happen.  Nothing really it TOO terribly hard.  It's just dedication and a bit of elbow grease.
De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6498|Belgium

AtomicMoose wrote:

The hardest award stuff has been done, quite a lot in fact (search it), but they all go on and on about the war college ribbon being one of the hardest as it takes forever to get that mount of command points blah blah blah blah blah.
The WCR ribbon was actually very hard in the early days, you needed a win-loss ratio of 3:1. It got nerfed (although I'm glad they nerfed that, I'm not happy they cut down the expert knife IAR requirement, I got the 18 kills the old way)

Hardest to get: medal of valor I think, as most of driver kill assists come from good heli-ing, although if you just sit on top of tanks in karkand, you can also get it so probably not the hardest skill

Expert explosives is a piece of cake on IO with gaymores.

expert repair (without flipping the boat) and expert healing are hardest, but they need more luck than skill.

So I think 40 kills iar is still the thing that requires most skill
confused
Member
+10|6365|British Columbia

AtomicMoose wrote:

The hardest award stuff has been done, quite a lot in fact (search it), but they all go on and on about the war college ribbon being one of the hardest as it takes forever to get that mount of command points blah blah blah blah blah. But thinking about it, it isn't actually that hard. You simply herm in the commander position and forgo your life. Then you have the badge. I'm wondering what the hardest award is in terms of SKILL alone, not because it will take forever. I have a good feeling its the expert explosives ordinance, without ff off.
My top three would be:
1. Expert explosives
2. Expert engineer (20 repair points in one round is ridiculous)
3. BF2: SF Expert Engineer Specialist without vehicle whoring (44 kills IAR with a shotgun? I don't think so.)
Those three (and most others) only require a long enough round.  A mediocre player could achieve those in a 1 1/2 hour round easily.  Since all kit combat badge and air defence and ground defence can be earned with arty kills, they don't need skill either. 

The only award I can see that really needs some degree of skill is Good Conduct Medal (this is also made easier with a long round).  The old expert knife might have been the toughest to obtain, but still only really needs a long round.

Last edited by confused (2007-02-27 16:27:14)

T1g3r217
Perpetual
+124|6393|My room

AtomicMoose wrote:

The hardest award stuff has been done, quite a lot in fact (search it), but they all go on and on about the war college ribbon being one of the hardest as it takes forever to get that mount of command points blah blah blah blah blah. But thinking about it, it isn't actually that hard. You simply herm in the commander position and forgo your life. Then you have the badge. I'm wondering what the hardest award is in terms of SKILL alone, not because it will take forever. I have a good feeling its the expert explosives ordinance, without ff off.
My top three would be:
1. Expert explosives
2. Expert engineer (20 repair points in one round is ridiculous)
3. BF2: SF Expert Engineer Specialist without vehicle whoring (44 kills IAR with a shotgun? I don't think so.)
To get Expert Explosives, all you need to do is go to an IO FF off, Karkand 24/7 server, and claymore spam. How do you think my dad got it?
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6598|Warlord

AtomicMoose wrote:

I'm wondering what the hardest award is in terms of SKILL alone, not because it will take forever. I have a good feeling its the expert explosives ordinance, without ff off.
Nah. With clays now being IFF mostly it's pretty easy. I actually got mine (and vet the same game) by accident, purely by using claymores to defend flags and flag access during a long-ass round; and honestly, I didn't want them.

Most people could get this with a single night's attempt if they know the right kind of server/game type and playing style. And do remember, if you are killing friendlies left and right it wouldn't take away from getting EEO as long as the explosion takes out an enemy at the same time. Sucky team score yes, but you still get the award.

AtomicMoose wrote:

2. Expert engineer (20 repair points in one round is ridiculous)
Agreed; given how hard repair points are to earn this is one tough requirement.

AtomicMoose wrote:

3. BF2: SF Expert Engineer Specialist without vehicle whoring (44 kills IAR with a shotgun? I don't think so.)
Good shotgunners could do this without breaking too much of a sweat; again, with the right server/conditions.

I think it's worth bearing in mind for most of us that play alone if you don't play solo on random public servers you have a lot better chance of achieving many of the combat-related badges.


Snake wrote:

- Expert Knife on the old requirements.
Yeah, good candidate. Harder even than the old Expert Pistol Combat I think it's safe to say.

Snake wrote:

Respect for anyone who got it the old way.
As long as they didn't get it on a K & P server. Still not easy, but not the same kind of difficult as on a normal server.


Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

...it depended of WL ratio. Only teamswitchers did that badge then.
That works up to a point but trust me, I know, there are better ways of manipulating the WLR in your favour.
TheOriginalUberN00b
Member
+16|6456|Hereford,AZ. USA

Snake wrote:

- Expert Knife on the old requirements.

But as thats no longer around!

- Expert Repair Badge
- Expert Pistol (without being a PK faggot)
- Expert Engineer and/or AT Specialist (without PK/vehicles/arty)

Although I actually have all of those
on my old account i got the expert knife before it got tweaked then when it got tweaked i was so pissed cuz of how hard it was when i got it.
morphman001
Member
+9|6532|Melbourne
Expert heal...that is driving me crazy,ive tried oh so many times.....16,17,18,19 heal points...game ends...FUCK!
Expert explosives is proving to be a pain to.
Sup3r_Dr4gon
Boat sig is not there anymore
+214|6298|Australia

confused wrote:

AtomicMoose wrote:

The hardest award stuff has been done, quite a lot in fact (search it), but they all go on and on about the war college ribbon being one of the hardest as it takes forever to get that mount of command points blah blah blah blah blah. But thinking about it, it isn't actually that hard. You simply herm in the commander position and forgo your life. Then you have the badge. I'm wondering what the hardest award is in terms of SKILL alone, not because it will take forever. I have a good feeling its the expert explosives ordinance, without ff off.
My top three would be:
1. Expert explosives
2. Expert engineer (20 repair points in one round is ridiculous)
3. BF2: SF Expert Engineer Specialist without vehicle whoring (44 kills IAR with a shotgun? I don't think so.)
Those three (and most others) only require a long enough round.  A mediocre player could achieve those in a 1 1/2 hour round easily.  Since all kit combat badge and air defence and ground defence can be earned with arty kills, they don't need skill either. 

The only award I can see that really needs some degree of skill is Good Conduct Medal (this is also made easier with a long round).  The old expert knife might have been the toughest to obtain, but still only really needs a long round.
Not really, I found that getting the good conduct medal to be a breeze. What I find astonishing is that I got that AND my veteran explosives in the same round. Using claymores. And thats just throwing them left, right and centre in IO Jalalabad.

Most of the medals seem really difficult to get, but all it takes is the right round. I never thought I'd get my basic knife (a MASSIVE 7 kills with a knife ), but I played one game, and there happened to be a crapload of snipers hanging around baseraping. Wasn't very challenging, I must say.
I think the most difficult would be expert engineer. Considering how slowly you get repair points, I cannot imagine getting 20 in a round. Hell, even getting 5 in a round was difficult for me, what I had to do was get in the buggy and follow a tank around. And the points racked up so slowly that by the time I got the badge, the snare drum hadn't even finished playing out when the round ended.
Ricerckt93
Member
+69|6623
Expert Repair.....NAH....If enemy caps your MEC base on Kubra, and keeps destroying Commander assets, you will have it in no time.

Expert Heal.....NAH.....Just Medic Whore, and stay near your squad leader.  I don't think I fired 1 shot the entire round, when I got mine.

Expert Explosive......NAH.....Just ClayWhore the Palace on Warlord.  Be sure to have a resupplier with you.




Expert Pistol will be my problem.  I highly doubt I will be able to get 18 kills in 1 round with a pistol.  Getting Vet Pistol (7 in a round) was bitch.  I am not sure how people get this with out going on a K & P server.  Any Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
David.P
Banned
+649|6244
Expert armor.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6652|Disaster Free Zone
The 3 im missing, expert explosives (please note in Aus we only play with FF and Mine FF on... spaming = almost instant kick from TK's), heal and repair.

I got the 18 IAR expert knife (actually got 19)... on a full 64 player sharqi (with vehicles).

18 pistol I got in an IO server(NOT a PK), but in a normal server it's extremly hard. IO is just a lesser form of stat padding, and to prove it, I got the badge on my first attempt (and not just 18, but 26 pistol kills 8 AR kills and 7 deaths) (in IO server) its just tooo easy.
I have got 19 repairs IAR, but at the time you needed 25 for the badge so was still 6 away.

And I should have got the expert explosives the same round as I got vet, but 2 of my kills were [killed] not [c4]. Also that was back in the day when you could C4 throw and the requirements were also 37 kills IAR not 30.

I also was like 16 wins away from the 3:1 WLR to get my WCR when they changed the requirements... I'm a little pissed about that, because I sacrificed SPM and KDR to win many rounds. My WLR is now about 4.45, and I still need 7000 command points for the ribbon.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2007-02-27 21:21:08)

gene_pool
Banned
+519|6592|Gold coast, Aus.

Snake wrote:

Varegg wrote:

ChevyLee86 wrote:


what was the old Expert Knife requirments?

the hardest was expert explosives for me. My claymoores seem to never go off so i had to c4 everyone on wake
They removed the IAR requirements of 18 knifekills.
Yep. Now its just a total of 100 knife kills. 

Respect for anyone who got it the old way.
I did

http://bf2s.com/player/64235673/

Expert pistol was pretty easy imo though.

My hardest by far was expert explosives.... I can't beleive i got that.....
ThaReaper
Banned
+410|6610
Basic Explosives is hard =\

Last edited by thareaper254 (2007-02-27 21:25:56)

cospengle
Member
+140|6458|Armidale, NSW, Australia
I reckon Expert Engineer. The veteran one was hard enough (I got it in the same round as I got my veteran engi combat on Wake - pleased with myself I was). I mean some rounds there isn't even enough stuff damaged to get that many repair points. What are you supposed to do? Repair the other teams' stuff too?

Expert explosives would be hard to get without getting kicked from the server. I got over 30 claymore kills IAR on Karkand, but quite a few were TKs . I think if I ever get it, it will be with mines.

Knife badge before they dropped the IAR used to be the hardest.
Kanil
"Aff, Star Colonel!"
+37|6732|Internet!
Expert pistol (which I don't have) would be the hardest, IMO.

It all depends on the player. Getting 18 knife kills IAR is easier for me than getting say, 40 kills as a kit for the simple kit gold badges.
David.P
Banned
+649|6244

Kanil wrote:

Expert pistol (which I don't have) would be the hardest, IMO.

It all depends on the player. Getting 18 knife kills IAR is easier for me than getting say, 40 kills as a kit for the simple kit gold badges.
Want a hint? Go on an IO server sneak up behind the spawn and go to town knifing and shooting people when they just spawn.(Got mine like that)

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