Good planAllmightyOz wrote:
Yeah well I got a haircut, bought a shirt n tie, and I am going to pretend I give a shit about this when I go to court. I even stopped smoking (pot) because of this. Will I start again? Possibly but deff. not in the near future and deff not after college.
The fact that I cant buy cigs or vote... thats what. Well I actually can buy cigs, but illegally lol
If pot was legal, I'd be smoking a joint while posting here...Superslim wrote:
How Ironic, i'm drinking a beer and having a smoke while posting here................lolTurquoise wrote:
Bullshit... marijuana is as much of a gateway drug as alcohol and cigarettes. I agree that if you break the law, you should have to deal with the consequences, but that doesn't change the fact that the law itself is impractical and irrational.=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:
Marijuana leads to a lot of other stuff, and quite often, a certain lifestyle. If you have that attitude, expect for the judge to be less than amused with you, and to not get any leniency.
Basically, we should legalize pot, so that people like this guy don't have to deal with being punished for a victimless crime.
Besides, cigarettes are more addictive than pot, and alcohol causes more problems for society than pot. It's completely asinine that pot hasn't been legalized yet, but Big Tobacco and the various brewing companies don't want competition from other recreational substances.
Still, it is true that you have to pretend you're penitent when dealing with the authorities. Even if you know the law is bullshit, you have to give the impression that you give a shit.
Thanks for the awesome job security.AllmightyOz wrote:
...and I am going to pretend I give a shit about this when I go to court. Will I start again? Possibly.
The difference of not being able to vote in a system that is penalizing you as if you can.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
It really doen't matter. If you're 17 and you know it's wrong, what's the difference of another year?Turquoise wrote:
So, it's right to try someone as an adult if they don't have the rights of an adult. I guess you like treating minors like second class citizens.=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:
Just because he is under 18 doesn't mean anything at all. Many states and municipalities will try him as an adult, and rightfully so.
So? You don't need to have access to all of the rights to be guilty of breaking a law...AllmightyOz wrote:
The fact that I cant buy cigs or vote... thats what. Well I actually can buy cigs, but illegally lol
I agree with the Vietnam voting arguement, but this is just out there. If you know it's wrong, and you know there is a punishment if you get caught, then don't do it. And if you do do it and get caught, it's not like you didn't know that it was illegal...Turquoise wrote:
The difference of not being able to vote in a system that is penalizing you as if you can.
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If you're a cop, then your time is better spent dealing with real criminals like murderers and rapists.=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:
Thanks for the awesome job security.AllmightyOz wrote:
...and I am going to pretend I give a shit about this when I go to court. Will I start again? Possibly.
So, even you are getting shafted by an asinine law.
If one becomes an adult at 18, and gains the rights of an adult at 18, but then is tried as an adult at 16, shouldnt one also gain the right of an adult as having just been called one?{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
So? You don't need to have access to all of the rights to be guilty of breaking a law...AllmightyOz wrote:
The fact that I cant buy cigs or vote... thats what. Well I actually can buy cigs, but illegally lol
I rest my case.
But... you do need access to all the rights of a full citizen to be tried as one -- at least if we lived in a consistent society.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
So? You don't need to have access to all of the rights to be guilty of breaking a law...AllmightyOz wrote:
The fact that I cant buy cigs or vote... thats what. Well I actually can buy cigs, but illegally lol
Did you know that illegal immigrants are merely deported when they commit petty crimes like possession, they just get deported? So, essentially, we treat illegals better than we treat minors.
AllmightyOz, would you rather just be deported and not have to hear about this hearing again?Turquoise wrote:
But... you do need access to all the rights of a full citizen to be tried as one -- at least if we lived in a consistent society.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
So? You don't need to have access to all of the rights to be guilty of breaking a law...AllmightyOz wrote:
The fact that I cant buy cigs or vote... thats what. Well I actually can buy cigs, but illegally lol
Did you know that illegal immigrants are merely deported when they commit petty crimes like possession, they just get deported? So, essentially, we treat illegals better than we treat minors.
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heres an interesting side not on the story... my two buddies that were with me got charged with possession of "equal to or more than 100 grams". That is a straight up bold LIE by the cops. There's no way we had over 20 grams at the very very very very most. 100 grams is almost a quarter pound... n for $40 we would have gotten a HELL OF A DEAL lol.
True... but.. should your punishment be the same as someone with full rights (and full responsibilities) if you don't have the said rights?{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
I agree with the Vietnam voting arguement, but this is just out there. If you know it's wrong, and you know there is a punishment if you get caught, then don't do it. And if you do do it and get caught, it's not like you didn't know that it was illegal...Turquoise wrote:
The difference of not being able to vote in a system that is penalizing you as if you can.
Also, have you ever illegally downloaded a song or movie? The minimum punishment for either crime is a $250,000 fine or up to 5 years jail time (per charge). To me, this isn't much different from drug possession in its effect on society, and yet, we treat one much worse than the other. Do you really think you've earned 5 years jail time for piracy (assuming you've downloaded something illegally)?
No I love this country. Unless of couse, I got deported to Canada so I could enjoy the rights of decriminalized marijuana{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
AllmightyOz, would you rather just be deported and not have to hear about this hearing again?Turquoise wrote:
But... you do need access to all the rights of a full citizen to be tried as one -- at least if we lived in a consistent society.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
So? You don't need to have access to all of the rights to be guilty of breaking a law...
Did you know that illegal immigrants are merely deported when they commit petty crimes like possession, they just get deported? So, essentially, we treat illegals better than we treat minors.
He probably would say yes to being deported to Canada, if that means he could hide out for a few days and then sneak past our very porous border... lol{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
AllmightyOz, would you rather just be deported and not have to hear about this hearing again?Turquoise wrote:
But... you do need access to all the rights of a full citizen to be tried as one -- at least if we lived in a consistent society.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
So? You don't need to have access to all of the rights to be guilty of breaking a law...
Did you know that illegal immigrants are merely deported when they commit petty crimes like possession, they just get deported? So, essentially, we treat illegals better than we treat minors.
No, deported to mexico. (Don't drink the water.)AllmightyOz wrote:
No I love this country. Unless of couse, I got deported to Canada so I could enjoy the rights of decriminalized marijuana{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
AllmightyOz, would you rather just be deported and not have to hear about this hearing again?Turquoise wrote:
But... you do need access to all the rights of a full citizen to be tried as one -- at least if we lived in a consistent society.
Did you know that illegal immigrants are merely deported when they commit petty crimes like possession, they just get deported? So, essentially, we treat illegals better than we treat minors.
Why Mexico? He could cross that border even easier... lol{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
No, deported to mexico. (Don't drink the water.)AllmightyOz wrote:
No I love this country. Unless of couse, I got deported to Canada so I could enjoy the rights of decriminalized marijuana{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
AllmightyOz, would you rather just be deported and not have to hear about this hearing again?
So Mr. police/state peetrole/county mounty, do you think I will lose my license? As that was the original question.
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If you commit a big enough crime like homicide, yes I think you should be charged as an adult. But in a minor case like this (just possession), I don't think the state will go though the hassle of trying as an adult.Turquoise wrote:
True... but.. should your punishment be the same as someone with full rights (and full responsibilities) if you don't have the said rights?
If you weren't driving, then no, they shouldn't take away your licence.AllmightyOz wrote:
So Mr. police/state peetrole/county mounty, do you think I will lose my license? As that was the original question.
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True... and it would be kind of dumb if they did.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
If you commit a big enough crime like homicide, yes I think you should be charged as an adult. But in a minor case like this (just possession), I don't think the state will go though the hassle of trying as an adult.Turquoise wrote:
True... but.. should your punishment be the same as someone with full rights (and full responsibilities) if you don't have the said rights?
But yeah, I'll agree with you on the homicide thing. With major crimes, right and wrong is more absolute. Drug possession is another matter altogether.
I have no idea about the drug laws in Ohio. If your offense wasn't be related to operating a motor vehicle, then I doubt your license is jeopardy.
I got busted a few months back. $110.00 fine.
Unless they catch you stoned at the wheel, in which case they could give you a dui, you are solid.
Unless they catch you stoned at the wheel, in which case they could give you a dui, you are solid.
hell yea did u get a paraphenalia charge too?
No. The pipe as full of some kind kush and they didn't say anything.
They were more worried about the loose bullets and clips rolling around the truck floor. And the empty gun holster, and bayonett, and lead pipe...
They were more worried about the loose bullets and clips rolling around the truck floor. And the empty gun holster, and bayonett, and lead pipe...
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lol damn you were really ridin' dirty.
I'm sorry ATG... Your not "1337" anymore...