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Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Ok first, this is not a dig at china, also please excuse the 'worried' kinda sounds sarcastic.

My main objective is to see if someone can clear up my final point at the end of this post.

I've started this thread because i have been hearing alot about China these last few months on the news and i've done a bit of research on the country itself.

I first start noticing China in the new a few months ago when i hear that their population is going to be one of the largest populations in the world in a few more years, so i thought nothing of that. I then look them up on wikipedia and find this:

'The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world.  The PLA consists of an army, navy, air force, and strategic nuclear force. The official budget of the PLA for 2005 is $30 billion and non-official budget $90 billion, possibly excluding foreign weapons purchases, military research and development, and the People's Armed Police, a paramilitary force.'

Now that is crazy, but the thing that got me was that i was hearing that they were starting to look active and that they were possibly getting ready for an invasion of a small island off the coast (if anyone could clear that up i would like to know) I also saw on the news that a rocket was launched to destroy a satalite in space by China, now the satalite was chinese i know but the fact is that China now have that capability to do such things.

It poses a question as to why China, U.S, Russia, Uk, Korea, Infact every country needs to have an arms race and create all these nuclear and fancy weapons. Its as if we are all on edge that one country is about to attack another.

The other bit of information i heard was that if China decide to attack this Island then Mr Bush or one of his merry men said that they would defend this island against China!!!! Now i don't know about you but that spells war to me. And not a small war either, super power against super power. I really hope this is just the news talking bullshit or taking things out of context but that is why i am worried.

P.s. Yes i know i should not believe everything i hear in the news, but its hard not to think what could happen.
The US has a larger military budget, is researching anti-satellite technology and have been busy with some actual invasions recently so I wouldn't be worrk much about China. China certainly seems to see Taiwan as a major issue, but they seem unwilling to do anything about it militarily, presumable more due to hurting their growing financial position trading with the US than anything else.

From the Tiwaneese and Chineese people I've talked to there's definately no love lots between them, but it seems they are united in disliking Koreans more than disliking each other though.
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Cybargs
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Turquoise wrote:

China is more threatening in an economic sense than in a military one.  We depend too much on their trade, while they use our money to buy up countries like Brazil.

Again, they won't attack Taiwan, because we would definitely retaliate.
That's why theres always India. TBH, I don't think China has enough rowboats to invade Taiwan.
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Mr.Pieeater
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Yes!!!!!!!!
chittydog
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Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Ok first, this is not a dig at china, also please excuse the 'worried' kinda sounds sarcastic.

My main objective is to see if someone can clear up my final point at the end of this post.

I've started this thread because i have been hearing alot about China these last few months on the news and i've done a bit of research on the country itself.

I first start noticing China in the new a few months ago when i hear that their population is going to be one of the largest populations in the world in a few more years, so i thought nothing of that. I then look them up on wikipedia and find this:

'The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world.  The PLA consists of an army, navy, air force, and strategic nuclear force. The official budget of the PLA for 2005 is $30 billion and non-official budget $90 billion, possibly excluding foreign weapons purchases, military research and development, and the People's Armed Police, a paramilitary force.'

Now that is crazy, but the thing that got me was that i was hearing that they were starting to look active and that they were possibly getting ready for an invasion of a small island off the coast (if anyone could clear that up i would like to know) I also saw on the news that a rocket was launched to destroy a satalite in space by China, now the satalite was chinese i know but the fact is that China now have that capability to do such things.

It poses a question as to why China, U.S, Russia, Uk, Korea, Infact every country needs to have an arms race and create all these nuclear and fancy weapons. Its as if we are all on edge that one country is about to attack another.

The other bit of information i heard was that if China decide to attack this Island then Mr Bush or one of his merry men said that they would defend this island against China!!!! Now i don't know about you but that spells war to me. And not a small war either, super power against super power. I really hope this is just the news talking bullshit or taking things out of context but that is why i am worried.

P.s. Yes i know i should not believe everything i hear in the news, but its hard not to think what could happen.
The biggest thing you should be worried about is how you've gone through life not knowing any of this. China's been the most populous country in the world for a looooooooong time, my friend. They've also been very public with their intentions towards Taiwan ever since it became independent. You've missed out on some of the most well known points in global news. I'd suggest picking a few of your favorite news sources and start reading up on what's going on. There's probably a lot more out there that you don't know and a lot of it will probably be troubling to you. It sounds cheesy, but knowledge is power so go learn something!
psH
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True fact...if you lined up the whole population of China, it would never end. Why? couse so many people are being born and dying.
Cybargs
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Doms wrote:

True fact...if you lined up the whole population of China, it would never end. Why? couse so many people are being born and dying.
One child policy.
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Doms wrote:

True fact...if you lined up the whole population of China, it would never end. Why? couse so many people are being born and dying.
Where'd you get this "true fact"? And what would you consider an "untrue fact"?
TrollmeaT
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China will never attack taiwan, they have long term goals in mind.
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China would go boom........
Elamdri
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I've heard that in china there is like 3 boys born per girl.
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usmarine2007 wrote:

Lay one hand on Cyborg and you will die.
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Havok
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Elamdri wrote:

I've heard that in china there is like 3 boys born per girl.
The biological odds of having a boy or girl are 50% every time.  That fact is highly unlikely.
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Havok wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

I've heard that in china there is like 3 boys born per girl.
The biological odds of having a boy or girl are 50% every time.  That fact is highly unlikely.
One child policy. Parents kill the daughter in order to have a son because only the son can carry the family name.
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Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Ok first, this is not a dig at china, also please excuse the 'worried' kinda sounds sarcastic.

My main objective is to see if someone can clear up my final point at the end of this post.

I've started this thread because i have been hearing alot about China these last few months on the news and i've done a bit of research on the country itself.

I first start noticing China in the new a few months ago when i hear that their population is going to be one of the largest populations in the world in a few more years, so i thought nothing of that. I then look them up on wikipedia and find this:

'The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world.  The PLA consists of an army, navy, air force, and strategic nuclear force. The official budget of the PLA for 2005 is $30 billion and non-official budget $90 billion, possibly excluding foreign weapons purchases, military research and development, and the People's Armed Police, a paramilitary force.'

Now that is crazy, but the thing that got me was that i was hearing that they were starting to look active and that they were possibly getting ready for an invasion of a small island off the coast (if anyone could clear that up i would like to know) I also saw on the news that a rocket was launched to destroy a satalite in space by China, now the satalite was chinese i know but the fact is that China now have that capability to do such things.

It poses a question as to why China, U.S, Russia, Uk, Korea, Infact every country needs to have an arms race and create all these nuclear and fancy weapons. Its as if we are all on edge that one country is about to attack another.

The other bit of information i heard was that if China decide to attack this Island then Mr Bush or one of his merry men said that they would defend this island against China!!!! Now i don't know about you but that spells war to me. And not a small war either, super power against super power. I really hope this is just the news talking bullshit or taking things out of context but that is why i am worried.

P.s. Yes i know i should not believe everything i hear in the news, but its hard not to think what could happen.
dude i dont know if you ever hear of nostradamus, but hes predicted Many wars, including WW1 and 2 and also the 9/11 attacks. and this was over 1000 years ago! He also wrote in his works that a great red dragon would make their mark on the world supposedly in WW3. Im not saying it is, but it might be a reference too China, which has a dragon as their symbol. Kinda freaky if you think about it, but yes China is starting to seriously rival the U.S. militaristic and economiic dominance.
liquix
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China has always been a dominating world force, however, this power has always corrupted and spawned many many cultural revolutions. This cycle will most likely continue, which is why you probably shouldn't worry. Thats not to say that the production levels of Chinese goods aren't hammering the U.S. Economy. My personal belief is that China will be a resource to the U.S. for as long as the U.S. can safely buy their goods. India, which is also enormously populous has one thing on the Chinese.; the ability to speak English. I'm willing to bet that 90% of Americans have spoken to an Indian on the telephone and thought they were talking to some bloke from the Midwest. That is something you might have to worry about. A war between the U.S. and China will most likely not happen, and if it does, its bad news for the entire world.
Mr.Pieeater
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Havok wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

I've heard that in china there is like 3 boys born per girl.
The biological odds of having a boy or girl are 50% every time.  That fact is highly unlikely.
Except for the fact that they put the girls up for adoption around the world and they abort the female babies...  It might not be 3:1, but there definately more guys than girls.  By a very bad number for the guys.
genius_man16
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Havok wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

I've heard that in china there is like 3 boys born per girl.
The biological odds of having a boy or girl are 50% every time.  That fact is highly unlikely.
Well, boys are much more preferred than girls, b/c they can keep the family going, so lots of parents kill or just toss our their child if they have a girl, so what he heard would be true if you looked at it right
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Let's try and get this back on track.

Kmarion and others were correct when they said that for economic reasons it is highly unlikely that they would start a war, even over Taiwan. Yet the only country that China could realistically attack is Taiwan, due to the geographical proximity and historical tension. The fact remains that China lacks the amphibious lift capability to go any further, to Japan for instance. China have strategically and diplomatically isolated Taiwan since the Nationalist government fled there after the Communists came to power. Therefore Taiwan have used profits (through government taxes) from industry like semiconductors to accquire weaponry to defend themselves, often bought from the USA. Yet in the face of a full fledged attack, Taiwan could really only hope to bloody China's nose, without something more than the foreign condemnation that would surely follow such an invasion, China would eventually overwhelm the island. Sheer numbers of aircraft and missiles would eventually give the Chinese air superiority and clear their passage over the Taiwanese straight.

It is arguable even if an American carrier group could maintain their vaunted air superiority in the face of such a red rain beating against Taiwan. China's sheer numbers are it's strength, and therefore it's weakness, where it can project them, chances are it will prevail, but it is incredibly expensive and material consuming to move a large number of troops / tanks / vehicles. That makes invasion of foreign nations by land difficult, and amphibious assault over anything other than the Taiwanese straight near impossible.
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LethalShot wrote:

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Ok first, this is not a dig at china, also please excuse the 'worried' kinda sounds sarcastic.

My main objective is to see if someone can clear up my final point at the end of this post.

I've started this thread because i have been hearing alot about China these last few months on the news and i've done a bit of research on the country itself.

I first start noticing China in the new a few months ago when i hear that their population is going to be one of the largest populations in the world in a few more years, so i thought nothing of that. I then look them up on wikipedia and find this:

'The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world.  The PLA consists of an army, navy, air force, and strategic nuclear force. The official budget of the PLA for 2005 is $30 billion and non-official budget $90 billion, possibly excluding foreign weapons purchases, military research and development, and the People's Armed Police, a paramilitary force.'

Now that is crazy, but the thing that got me was that i was hearing that they were starting to look active and that they were possibly getting ready for an invasion of a small island off the coast (if anyone could clear that up i would like to know) I also saw on the news that a rocket was launched to destroy a satalite in space by China, now the satalite was chinese i know but the fact is that China now have that capability to do such things.

It poses a question as to why China, U.S, Russia, Uk, Korea, Infact every country needs to have an arms race and create all these nuclear and fancy weapons. Its as if we are all on edge that one country is about to attack another.

The other bit of information i heard was that if China decide to attack this Island then Mr Bush or one of his merry men said that they would defend this island against China!!!! Now i don't know about you but that spells war to me. And not a small war either, super power against super power. I really hope this is just the news talking bullshit or taking things out of context but that is why i am worried.

P.s. Yes i know i should not believe everything i hear in the news, but its hard not to think what could happen.
dude i dont know if you ever hear of nostradamus, but hes predicted Many wars, including WW1 and 2 and also the 9/11 attacks. and this was over 1000 years ago! He also wrote in his works that a great red dragon would make their mark on the world supposedly in WW3. Im not saying it is, but it might be a reference too China, which has a dragon as their symbol. Kinda freaky if you think about it, but yes China is starting to seriously rival the U.S. militaristic and economiic dominance.
And you realize that people figured them out after the event occured.
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liquix wrote:

India, which is also enormously populous has one thing on the Chinese.; the ability to speak English. I'm willing to bet that 90% of Americans have spoken to an Indian on the telephone and thought they were talking to some bloke from the Midwest.
Well I've dealt with Indian (outsourced) customer support and trust me that's a load of bullshit. They couldn't speak English well to save their lives. You can barley understand them and that is why Americans think that all tech support is shit.
liquix
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I know, but believe me its not always that way. Of course the cheaper you go the poorer the English, but its always better than China. The sounds in English are very hard to make when your raised on Chinese.
Ace.O.Lamb
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LethalShot wrote:

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Ok first, this is not a dig at china, also please excuse the 'worried' kinda sounds sarcastic.

My main objective is to see if someone can clear up my final point at the end of this post.

I've started this thread because i have been hearing alot about China these last few months on the news and i've done a bit of research on the country itself.

I first start noticing China in the new a few months ago when i hear that their population is going to be one of the largest populations in the world in a few more years, so i thought nothing of that. I then look them up on wikipedia and find this:

'The People's Liberation Army (PLA), with its 2.25 million active troops, is currently the largest military in the world.  The PLA consists of an army, navy, air force, and strategic nuclear force. The official budget of the PLA for 2005 is $30 billion and non-official budget $90 billion, possibly excluding foreign weapons purchases, military research and development, and the People's Armed Police, a paramilitary force.'

Now that is crazy, but the thing that got me was that i was hearing that they were starting to look active and that they were possibly getting ready for an invasion of a small island off the coast (if anyone could clear that up i would like to know) I also saw on the news that a rocket was launched to destroy a satalite in space by China, now the satalite was chinese i know but the fact is that China now have that capability to do such things.

It poses a question as to why China, U.S, Russia, Uk, Korea, Infact every country needs to have an arms race and create all these nuclear and fancy weapons. Its as if we are all on edge that one country is about to attack another.

The other bit of information i heard was that if China decide to attack this Island then Mr Bush or one of his merry men said that they would defend this island against China!!!! Now i don't know about you but that spells war to me. And not a small war either, super power against super power. I really hope this is just the news talking bullshit or taking things out of context but that is why i am worried.

P.s. Yes i know i should not believe everything i hear in the news, but its hard not to think what could happen.
dude i dont know if you ever hear of nostradamus, but hes predicted Many wars, including WW1 and 2 and also the 9/11 attacks. and this was over 1000 years ago! He also wrote in his works that a great red dragon would make their mark on the world supposedly in WW3. Im not saying it is, but it might be a reference too China, which has a dragon as their symbol. Kinda freaky if you think about it, but yes China is starting to seriously rival the U.S. militaristic and economiic dominance.
A great red dragon? Hang on Wales have got a great Red dragon. Oh god.....

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