BF2S Forums US missile defence in the UK?

stryyker wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

Only missiles I've seen an enemy use in the last 20 years is RPGs and Airplanes.

Scuds, Katyusha...

Yea I had thought about those too late.

Why UK though? Wouldn't Israel be the place of most concert at the moment?

You might want to look at it from a scientific standpoint.  Now, I have no idea, but maybe England is a better place to intercept missiles than Israel. 

I have no idea, just wondering.

Maybe it has more time to track it once its launched.

But then again, it took like 3 minutes for a SCUD to get from Iraq to Kuwait, didn't it?

Fen321 wrote:

Will this be an offensive shield or defensive?

How can you have on offensive shield?

Bertster7 wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

So lets just talk about the US and Isreal then... ok So it doesn't matter that everyone else is breaking rules. We're the only ones who count?

So no one has been bringing up Iran and N. Korea when they break the rules? I must have imagined all those other threads and all the sanctions against Iran and N. Korea.

The Americans on this forum are typically the first to condemn Irans nuclear program and to call for the total destruction of Iran. Why should America and Israels non compliance with international law be treated any differently? It's a nasty case of double standards.

We only say that because that fuckin looney over there Almajahadin or whatever declares death to us and Israel. If he'd just shut his pie hole and start listening to the International community, we'd get along just fine. In fact, we could both make a lot more money by being friends, than foes. He's got oil, we've got money. He's too fuckin stupid to comprehend that we will stomp his ass if he keeps fuckin around and talkin shit. If you poke the bees nest, you're gonna get stung. We made the rules, we also reserve the right to bend and rewrite them. Life aint fair, we're the top of the food chain and everyone else is jealous. Waaaaa!

King_County_Downy wrote:

We made the rules, we also reserve the right to bend and rewrite them. Life aint fair, we're the top of the food chain and everyone else is jealous. Waaaaa!

See, that is totally untrue (the US didn't write the rules) and is yet another reason people get pissed off at America. Nothing to do with jealousy, it's to do with double standards, which the US seem to be experts at.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-02-23 15:58:27)

King_County_Downy wrote:

I think that's the problem. The word "Standard" doesn't fit. I like the word "entendre" better. It's like parenting. We tell the little kids what to do, if they don't, we punish them. "Do as we say, not as we do". I tell kids all the time that "one day, you'll understand why I just smacked you". Some people aren't mature enough to understand that and will always question "authority". The world is not a democracy.

Ha!

King_County_Downy wrote:

I have no idea what I'm talking about, just FYI I'm making it up as I go.

lol! Does it at least sound good? Am I a certified debater yet?

King_County_Downy wrote:

I have no idea what I'm talking about, just FYI I'm making it up as I go.

lol! Does it at least sound good? Am I a certified debater yet?

Absolutely.

You're doing a great job. Some dubious looking links with give you a bit more D&ST credibility.

The sad thing is you do put across the attitude of the US government very accurately.

PFCStenzel wrote:

I agree with King county on this..,.......why is it always us that has to follow the rules of the world and no one else does.   WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!

What are you on about? The US breaks more rules than anyone but Israel.

Kmarion wrote:

Should the UK let the US? It makes it appear as if we are trying to impose it on you when in fact it is the UK asking for it.

UK officials say Tony Blair has pressed Washington to place at least some of those interceptors on British soil. The UK prime minister is said to share US concerns about the threat posed by missiles from states of concern.

Blair rules out action against Iran, and then the next day the we hear the UK is asking for our missile defense.

In any since missile defense has a long way to go.

RAF Fylingdales, in North Yorkshire, already hosts part of the radar system that is to be used for Son of Star Wars, if it is ever put into practice.  So, as we are hosting the system, should we not also be protected by it?

Should we let the US continue to have radar stations on UK soil?  That's a better question, I think.

Yes. Now where's my mince pie?

Kmarion wrote:

Should the UK let the US? It makes it appear as if we are trying to impose it on you when in fact it is the UK asking for it.

UK officials say Tony Blair has pressed Washington to place at least some of those interceptors on British soil. The UK prime minister is said to share US concerns about the threat posed by missiles from states of concern.

Blair rules out action against Iran, and then the next day the we hear the UK is asking for our missile defense.

In any since missile defense has a long way to go.

Yup, Blair is lobbying for it. But remember Blair and the UK are two seperate entities. The US need a European outpost for interceptors, the UK will most likely host that outpost. What are the chances of it being placed in France or Germany - also, the further from Russia the outpost is the better, don't want them thinking they've got incoming missiles, scary shit could go down.

Kmarion wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

CC-Marley wrote:

Do you really want to bring up the Kyoto Protocol? Have you read it? Really read it?

I've read it. It's bollocks, but the whole point of it is to be a symbol of international cooperation on climate change, which is important. The exemptions of China and India were just an incentive to get them onboard, unfortunately it gave the US and AUS a good reason not to sign.

It was symbolic, not practical.

The US signed it, symbolically

True.

But no ratification (much like the UK/US extradition treaty) and that is what the media focus has been on, destroying the spirit of the agreement.

Vilham wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

That's not true.

The US never do follow the rules anyway. They don't acknowledge the international courts in the Hague, they constantly break treaties such as the anti-ballistic missile treaty and so on and so forth.

Everyone else has to follow the rules too. It's just the US break them more often than most, so it comes up more often. Israel break the rules a lot too.

i wonder why u English talk so much crap about the US.... we are your closest ally, we saved ur asses in WW2, and yet u still talk shit about us..........

Sorry i think you are confusing the UK with the rest of Europe. Russia saved our ass. Not the US!

Tell all your Russian friends thanks for the supplies coming across the Atlantic in American Ships that were manned by Americans.  Ya go and thank all the Russians for those supplies.