Military History Importance

2007-02-23 11:36:29

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

If you check the threads here we are basically talking of War and Military History. Yes, there are some threads about Religion too. But, most of the topics in D&ST are Military related. The same happens with Historians.
Do people, including historians, focus too much on the military history of nations? Or do you think otherwise? Do you think that military history is more important than the cultural, socio-economial and non-military technological developments of the past?

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-02-23 11:37:10)

2007-02-23 11:40:47

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7010|SE London

No, wars are of immense historical importance. They are often catalysts for massive changes.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-02-23 11:41:01)

2007-02-23 11:48:03

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ProudLimey: Member; +3|6865

It really depends on what era of history you mean. Do you mean history in general, or modern history? I am studying history at degree level (predominatly medieval) and the coverage is quite balanced. Again, it depends which specific area of history you are studying...

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2007-02-23 11:49:36

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

ProudLimey wrote:
It really depends on what era of history you mean. Do you mean history in general, or modern history? I am studying history at degree level (predominatly medieval) and the coverage is quite balanced. Again, it depends which specific area of history you are studying...

No particular era.

2007-02-23 11:53:37

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ProudLimey: Member; +3|6865

sergeriver wrote:
No particular era.

Okay, they're balanced.

2007-02-23 11:54:03

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Big guns are cool.

2007-02-23 11:57:11

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silo1180: The Farewell Tour; +79|6851|San Antonio, TX

A nation that was a military super-power in the past may not be the same today. There's talk like China has such massive numbers (of troops) that no one would do well against them, but with the technology we have today, that may not hold true.

Many countries have taken on more defensive role than in the past. In other words, it's not so much about reaching out anymore, it's more about taking care of what's mine. Recent events have shown that the taking of a foreign land is not a successful venture.

But IMO, none of these histories hold a great deal of importance in modern times. A peaceful nation could elect the wrong leaders and that would change their direction. A citizen could make a discovery that would be conveted by other nations, the original nation would then need to update it's forces to protect that resource.

As always, it is important to remember our past or we're doomed to repeat it, but I just think it stays in the past where it belongs.

2007-02-23 11:57:38

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:
Big guns are cool.

What about the Paleolithic period guns?

2007-02-23 12:01:19

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:
Big guns are cool.
What about the Paleolithic period guns?

TBH, WWI weapons bore me. The only things I will watch / read are WWII or later.

2007-02-23 12:02:46

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:
Big guns are cool.
What about the Paleolithic period guns?
TBH, WWI weapons bore me. The only things I will watch / read are WWII or later.

But History started before WWII. So, you only like history of the last 60 years.

2007-02-23 12:03:45

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

sergeriver wrote:
But History started before WWII. So, you only like history of the last 60 years.

Military.....yes. The tactics of the civil and revol wars make me sick.

2007-02-23 12:04:43

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
But History started before WWII. So, you only like history of the last 60 years.
Military.....yes. The tactics of the civil and revol wars make me sick.

Did you read about Ancient China, Japan, Persia, etc? It's pretty interesting as a matter of fact.

2007-02-23 12:06:37

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
But History started before WWII. So, you only like history of the last 60 years.
Military.....yes. The tactics of the civil and revol wars make me sick.
Did you read about Ancient China, Japan, Persia, etc? It's pretty interesting as a matter of fact.

I don't read much. But I am addicted to the History Channel. But when shows come on about those time periods, I start flippin thru the channels for some reason.

2007-02-23 12:07:41

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:

Military.....yes. The tactics of the civil and revol wars make me sick.
Did you read about Ancient China, Japan, Persia, etc? It's pretty interesting as a matter of fact.
I don't read much. But I am addicted to the History Channel. But when shows come on about those time periods, I start flippin thru the channels for some reason.

I love the History Channel and those periods as well.

2007-02-23 12:07:45

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ProudLimey: Member; +3|6865

History is like Marmite. You either love it or you hate it.

2007-02-23 12:09:04

#16

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

We should have a History subforum.

2007-02-23 12:10:17

#17

usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

sergeriver wrote:
We should have a History subforum.

You know damn well it will turn into all Iraq.

2007-02-23 12:11:23

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
We should have a History subforum.
You know damn well it will turn into all Iraq.

Iraq is present, not History. Bah, it's history.

2007-02-23 16:45:07

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6834|North Carolina

I voted Yes, but admittedly, war is very significant in the course of history.

I think historians are now better at balancing things more toward other significant things like social issues, technology, science, economics, etc.

The History Channel is one of many indications that historians are generally moving in the right balanced direction IMHO. Their programming is still somewhat preoccupied with war, but they cover so many other topics as well.

2007-02-23 16:47:45

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:
Their programming is still somewhat preoccupied with war, but they cover so many other topics as well.

I am addicted to modern marvels. I can watch that show no matter what they are talking about.

2007-02-23 16:49:29

#21

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6834|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Their programming is still somewhat preoccupied with war, but they cover so many other topics as well.
I am addicted to modern marvels. I can watch that show no matter what they are talking about.

Same here... I don't watch much TV, but aside from Comedy Central, History Channel is one of my faves.

Modern Marvels is a good one, as is Man-Moment-Machine. The Leonardo Da Vinci episode of MMM was really cool.

2007-02-23 16:49:56

#22

{M5}Sniper3: Typical white person.; +389|7188|San Antonio, Texas

usmarine2007 wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Their programming is still somewhat preoccupied with war, but they cover so many other topics as well.
I am addicted to modern marvels. I can watch that show no matter what they are talking about.

Same with future weapons.

2007-02-23 16:52:05

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Smitty5613: Member; +46|6955|Middle of nowhere, California

i love learning about military history, especially WW2 and Vietnam.... i think we should learn A LOT more about it....

2007-02-23 16:53:30

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Smitty5613: Member; +46|6955|Middle of nowhere, California

Turquoise wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Their programming is still somewhat preoccupied with war, but they cover so many other topics as well.
I am addicted to modern marvels. I can watch that show no matter what they are talking about.
Same here... I don't watch much TV, but aside from Comedy Central, History Channel is one of my faves.

Modern Marvels is a good one, as is Man-Moment-Machine. The Leonardo Da Vinci episode of MMM was really cool.

Shoot Out, and Dogfights are my favorites...

2007-02-23 16:53:47

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Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|7075

Bertster7 wrote:
No, wars are of immense historical importance. They are often catalysts for massive changes.

Agreed. This question is kind of pointless.

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No, there should be more of a military focus	24%	24% - 12
No, historians today are balanced in their views	57%	57% - 28
Other	0%	0% - 0
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