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Obviously this guy takes word for their literal meaning, and thinks that Republican automatically means conservative (and vice versa). He probably doesn't know how outdated most labels are.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Oh, and...
Go light a fire then die on it.OP wrote:
has been coopted as the symbol of degenerate homosexuals).
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Didnt you guys hear. Everything he states is 100% factual and can be proven by googling or with a bible quote.
Yeah, I figure I'm about done here, someone else take over or let this thread die a merciful death.Spark wrote:
Obviously this guy takes word for their literal meaning, and thinks that Republican automatically means conservative (and vice versa). He probably doesn't know how outdated most labels are.
After reading this I understand how Bush got his second term in office....
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
September 11 Freedom Walk
New Majority Leader: Iraq War “May Be The Greatest Gift That We Give” Our Grandchildren
Headstones of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan are inscribed with the Pentagons war-marketing slogans
White House and the RNC are going to make a habit of using uniformed military personnel as props at Republican political rallies, despite the fact that it is a plain violation of military regulations banning politicization of the armed forces.
"You must glorify war in order to get the public to accept the fact that your going to send their sons and daughters to die." The inside story of the cozy relationship between big box office American war movies and the Pentagon
2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
We are now a torturing police state: Bush signing into law that will get rid of habeas corpus, allow hearsay evidence, and allow the President to determine what is allowable torture.
Bush Offers Himself Amnesty for Human Rights Crimes
Bush threatens to veto $442b defense bill if Congress investigates detainee abuses.
Guantanamo Judge: “I don’t care about international law. I don’t want to hear the words ‘international law’ again. We are not concerned with international law.”
Rumsfeld to approve new guidelines that will formalize the administration's policy of imprisoning without the protections of the Geneva Conventions and enable the Pentagon to legally hold "ghost detainees,"
US 'preparing to detain terror suspects for life without trial'
U.S. oks evidence gained through torture
July 1, 2003: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries: because they have supported the International Criminal Court and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.
US has at least 9000 prisoners in secret detention
3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Congressman: Muslims 'enemy amongst us'
SB 24, Ohio law to muzzle "liberals"
Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum has joined a conservative Washington think tank, where he will found and direct a program called "America's Enemies."
Sean Hannity creates weekly "Enemy of the State" segment on his new program
Fox radio hosts suggests putting liberal commentators and activists in concentration camps.
World history textbook used by seventh-graders at Scottsdale’s Mohave Middle School was pulled from classrooms mid-semester amid growing right criticism of the book’s unbiased portrayal of Islam
Rallies planned against 'Islamofacism': Event to 'unify all Americans behind common goal'
4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
If you haven't seen the Oreo flash animation yet, see it here
Bush’s Domestic Program Hit List
Bush slashes domestic programs, boosts defense. Arlen Spector calls it "scandalous"
Funding for job training, rural health care, low-income schools and help for people lacking health insurance would face big cuts under a bill passed Friday by the House
Pentagon to spend 75 billion for three new brigades
Three cable channels now feed news, information and entertainment about the armed services into millions of living rooms 24 hours a day, seven days a week: The Military Channel, the Military History Channel and the Pentagon Channel.
More...
5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
It's legal again, to fire gov't workers for being gay
Bush calls for Constitutional ban on same-sex marriages
Bush refuses to sign U.N proposal on women's "sexual" rights
W. David Hager chairman of the FDA's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee does not prescribe contraceptives for single women, does not do abortions, will not prescribe RU-486 and will not insert IUDs.
The State Department has awarded an explicitly anti-feminist U.S. group part of a US$10 million grant to train Iraqi women in political participation and democracy.
More...
6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
FBI Acknowledges: Journalists Phone Records are Fair Game
Report shows U.S. government has been engaged in illegal propaganda aimed at its own citizens and the story gets only 41 mentions in the media
Free Press details recent governmental propaganda efforts, from faux-correspondent Jeff Gannon to paid-off pundit Armstrong Williams, and from the demise of FOIA to video news releases passed off as news. also... See a Whitehouse fake news release here (opens realplayer)
US seizes webservers from independent media sites
Bush's war on information: US editors forbidden to publish certain foreign writers
7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses
Bush Aides ADMIT 'stoking fear' for political gain: Bush adviser said the president hopes to change the dynamics of the race. The strategy is aimed at stoking public fears about terrorism, raising new concerns about Kerry's ability to protect Americans and reinforcing Bush's image as the steady anti-terrorism candidate, aides said.
The Bush administration periodically put the USA on high alert for terrorist attacks even though then-Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge argued there was only flimsy evidence to justify raising the threat level.
GOP Ad These are the stakes
Keith Olbermann: "The Nexus of Politics and Terror."
Cheney warns that if Kerry is elected, the USA will suffer a "devastating attack"
GOP convention in a nutshell (quicktime)
Rove: GOP to Use Terror As Campaign Issue in 2006
8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
Jerry Falwell cleared of charges that he broke federal election law by urging followers to vote for Bush
NC congressman proposes law making it ok to preach politics from the pulpit
Texas Governor Mobilizes Evangelicals
Family research council: Justice Sunday
Thou shalt be like Bush: What makes this recently established, right-wing Christian college unique are the increasingly close - critics say alarmingly close - links it has with the Bush administration and the Republican establishment.
Park Service Continues to Push Creationist Theory at Grand Canyon and other nat'l parks
9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
The K Street Project is a project by the Republican party to pressure Washington lobbying firms to hire Republicans in top positions, and to reward loyal GOP lobbyists with access to influential officials. It was launched in 1995, by Republican strategist Grover Norquist and House majority leader Tom DeLay.
American Conservative Magazine: One U.S. contractor received $2 million in a duffel bag... and a U.S. official was given $7 million in cash in the waning days of the CPA and told to spend it “before the Iraqis take over.”
There are 6 Congressional Committees investigating the Oil-for-Food (UN) scandal, yet not a single Republican Committee Chairman will call a hearing to investigate the whereabouts of 9 billion dollars missing in Iraq
Bush money network rooted in Florida, Texas: Since Mr. Bush took office in 2001, the federal government has awarded more than $3 billion in contracts to the President's elite 2004 Texas fund-raisers, their businesses, and lobbying clients
More...
10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
Labor Department warns unions against using their money politically
President Bush Attacks Organized Labor: Bush attacked organized labor Saturday, issuing orders effectively reducing how much money unions can spend for political activities and opening up government contracts to non-union bidding.
March 2001: President Bush signed his name to four executive orders on organized labor last month, including one that cuts the money unions will have for political campaign spending.
Congress and the Department of Labor are trying to change the rules on overtime pay, eliminating the 40 hour work week, taking eligibility for overtime pay away from millions of workers, and replacing time and a half pay with comp days.
11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
The A to Z guide to political interference in science
Bush's new economic plan cuts funding for arts, education
Artists from all over the world are being refused entry to the US on security grounds.
A group of more than 60 top U.S. scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates and several science advisers to past Republican presidents, on Wednesday accused the Bush administration of manipulating and censoring science for political purposes
Freedom of Repression: New ruling will allow censorship of campus publications
12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations
The 10 most outrageous civil liberties violations of 2006
The United States has now become the world leader in its rate of incarceration, locking up its citizens at 5-8 times the rate of other industrialized nations.
American Gestapo is here: "There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division.'"
America: secret jails, secret courts, secret arrests, and now secret laws
Snitch-or-Go-to-Jail bill will make pretty much anything short of reporting on everyone you see for doing just about anything a jailable offense. With minimum sentences, up to and including life without parole.
The problem with Gonzales is that he has been deeply involved in developing some of the most sweeping claims of near-dictatorial presidential power in our nation's history, allowing him to imprison and even (at least in theory) torture anyone in the world, at any time
Police officers don't have to give a reason at the time they arrest someone, the U.S. Supreme Court said in a ruling that shields officers from false-arrest lawsuits.
13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
Bush Cronyism: Foxes Guarding the henhouse
Who's been indicted, named as a co-conspirator or convicted? The Grand Ole Docket tracks trial dates, court appearances and sentencing hearings for players in the current array of national political scandals.
Making Sense of the Abramoff Scandal
In preparation for upcoming Congressional hearings, Bush Administration firing federal attorneys and appointing ringers without Senate confirmation via the patriot act.
If Bush's pick is confirmed, that will mean the five top appointees at Justice have zero prosecutorial experience among them.
Iran-Contra Felons Get Good Jobs from Bush
Big Iraq Reconstruction Contracts Went To Big Donors
Bush Wars -- Crooks Get Contracts : The main companies that were awarded billions of dollars worth of contracts in Iraq have paid more than $300 million in fines since 2000, to resolve allegations of fraud, bid rigging, delivery of faulty military equipment, and environmental damage.
US Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) lost track of $9 billion
"Contracting in the aftermath of the hurricanes has been marked by waste, corruption and cronyism"
14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
A couple of election workers have been convicted of rigging a recount in Ohio following the 2004 election
Rolling Stone does some investigative and rather exhaustive digging into public documents and says we’re almost guaranteed the 2004 election results were massively rigged
Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings
Conyers hearing in which Clinton Curtis testifies that he was hired to create hackable voting machines (.wmv)
The Republican Party has quietly paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to provide private defense lawyers for a former Bush campaign official charged with conspiring to keep Democrats from voting in New Hampshire.
The Conyers Report (.pdf)
No explanation for the machines in Mahoning County that recorded Kerry votes for Bush, the improper purging in Cuyahoga County, the lock down in Warren County, the 99% voter turnout in Miami County, the machine tampering in Hocking County
Less access than Kazakhstan. Fewer fail-safes than Venezuela. Not as simple Republic of Georgia. The 2004 Elections according to international observers
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
September 11 Freedom Walk
New Majority Leader: Iraq War “May Be The Greatest Gift That We Give” Our Grandchildren
Headstones of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan are inscribed with the Pentagons war-marketing slogans
White House and the RNC are going to make a habit of using uniformed military personnel as props at Republican political rallies, despite the fact that it is a plain violation of military regulations banning politicization of the armed forces.
"You must glorify war in order to get the public to accept the fact that your going to send their sons and daughters to die." The inside story of the cozy relationship between big box office American war movies and the Pentagon
2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
We are now a torturing police state: Bush signing into law that will get rid of habeas corpus, allow hearsay evidence, and allow the President to determine what is allowable torture.
Bush Offers Himself Amnesty for Human Rights Crimes
Bush threatens to veto $442b defense bill if Congress investigates detainee abuses.
Guantanamo Judge: “I don’t care about international law. I don’t want to hear the words ‘international law’ again. We are not concerned with international law.”
Rumsfeld to approve new guidelines that will formalize the administration's policy of imprisoning without the protections of the Geneva Conventions and enable the Pentagon to legally hold "ghost detainees,"
US 'preparing to detain terror suspects for life without trial'
U.S. oks evidence gained through torture
July 1, 2003: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries: because they have supported the International Criminal Court and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.
US has at least 9000 prisoners in secret detention
3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Congressman: Muslims 'enemy amongst us'
SB 24, Ohio law to muzzle "liberals"
Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum has joined a conservative Washington think tank, where he will found and direct a program called "America's Enemies."
Sean Hannity creates weekly "Enemy of the State" segment on his new program
Fox radio hosts suggests putting liberal commentators and activists in concentration camps.
World history textbook used by seventh-graders at Scottsdale’s Mohave Middle School was pulled from classrooms mid-semester amid growing right criticism of the book’s unbiased portrayal of Islam
Rallies planned against 'Islamofacism': Event to 'unify all Americans behind common goal'
4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
If you haven't seen the Oreo flash animation yet, see it here
Bush’s Domestic Program Hit List
Bush slashes domestic programs, boosts defense. Arlen Spector calls it "scandalous"
Funding for job training, rural health care, low-income schools and help for people lacking health insurance would face big cuts under a bill passed Friday by the House
Pentagon to spend 75 billion for three new brigades
Three cable channels now feed news, information and entertainment about the armed services into millions of living rooms 24 hours a day, seven days a week: The Military Channel, the Military History Channel and the Pentagon Channel.
More...
5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
It's legal again, to fire gov't workers for being gay
Bush calls for Constitutional ban on same-sex marriages
Bush refuses to sign U.N proposal on women's "sexual" rights
W. David Hager chairman of the FDA's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee does not prescribe contraceptives for single women, does not do abortions, will not prescribe RU-486 and will not insert IUDs.
The State Department has awarded an explicitly anti-feminist U.S. group part of a US$10 million grant to train Iraqi women in political participation and democracy.
More...
6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
FBI Acknowledges: Journalists Phone Records are Fair Game
Report shows U.S. government has been engaged in illegal propaganda aimed at its own citizens and the story gets only 41 mentions in the media
Free Press details recent governmental propaganda efforts, from faux-correspondent Jeff Gannon to paid-off pundit Armstrong Williams, and from the demise of FOIA to video news releases passed off as news. also... See a Whitehouse fake news release here (opens realplayer)
US seizes webservers from independent media sites
Bush's war on information: US editors forbidden to publish certain foreign writers
7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses
Bush Aides ADMIT 'stoking fear' for political gain: Bush adviser said the president hopes to change the dynamics of the race. The strategy is aimed at stoking public fears about terrorism, raising new concerns about Kerry's ability to protect Americans and reinforcing Bush's image as the steady anti-terrorism candidate, aides said.
The Bush administration periodically put the USA on high alert for terrorist attacks even though then-Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge argued there was only flimsy evidence to justify raising the threat level.
GOP Ad These are the stakes
Keith Olbermann: "The Nexus of Politics and Terror."
Cheney warns that if Kerry is elected, the USA will suffer a "devastating attack"
GOP convention in a nutshell (quicktime)
Rove: GOP to Use Terror As Campaign Issue in 2006
8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
Jerry Falwell cleared of charges that he broke federal election law by urging followers to vote for Bush
NC congressman proposes law making it ok to preach politics from the pulpit
Texas Governor Mobilizes Evangelicals
Family research council: Justice Sunday
Thou shalt be like Bush: What makes this recently established, right-wing Christian college unique are the increasingly close - critics say alarmingly close - links it has with the Bush administration and the Republican establishment.
Park Service Continues to Push Creationist Theory at Grand Canyon and other nat'l parks
9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
The K Street Project is a project by the Republican party to pressure Washington lobbying firms to hire Republicans in top positions, and to reward loyal GOP lobbyists with access to influential officials. It was launched in 1995, by Republican strategist Grover Norquist and House majority leader Tom DeLay.
American Conservative Magazine: One U.S. contractor received $2 million in a duffel bag... and a U.S. official was given $7 million in cash in the waning days of the CPA and told to spend it “before the Iraqis take over.”
There are 6 Congressional Committees investigating the Oil-for-Food (UN) scandal, yet not a single Republican Committee Chairman will call a hearing to investigate the whereabouts of 9 billion dollars missing in Iraq
Bush money network rooted in Florida, Texas: Since Mr. Bush took office in 2001, the federal government has awarded more than $3 billion in contracts to the President's elite 2004 Texas fund-raisers, their businesses, and lobbying clients
More...
10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
Labor Department warns unions against using their money politically
President Bush Attacks Organized Labor: Bush attacked organized labor Saturday, issuing orders effectively reducing how much money unions can spend for political activities and opening up government contracts to non-union bidding.
March 2001: President Bush signed his name to four executive orders on organized labor last month, including one that cuts the money unions will have for political campaign spending.
Congress and the Department of Labor are trying to change the rules on overtime pay, eliminating the 40 hour work week, taking eligibility for overtime pay away from millions of workers, and replacing time and a half pay with comp days.
11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
The A to Z guide to political interference in science
Bush's new economic plan cuts funding for arts, education
Artists from all over the world are being refused entry to the US on security grounds.
A group of more than 60 top U.S. scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates and several science advisers to past Republican presidents, on Wednesday accused the Bush administration of manipulating and censoring science for political purposes
Freedom of Repression: New ruling will allow censorship of campus publications
12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations
The 10 most outrageous civil liberties violations of 2006
The United States has now become the world leader in its rate of incarceration, locking up its citizens at 5-8 times the rate of other industrialized nations.
American Gestapo is here: "There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division.'"
America: secret jails, secret courts, secret arrests, and now secret laws
Snitch-or-Go-to-Jail bill will make pretty much anything short of reporting on everyone you see for doing just about anything a jailable offense. With minimum sentences, up to and including life without parole.
The problem with Gonzales is that he has been deeply involved in developing some of the most sweeping claims of near-dictatorial presidential power in our nation's history, allowing him to imprison and even (at least in theory) torture anyone in the world, at any time
Police officers don't have to give a reason at the time they arrest someone, the U.S. Supreme Court said in a ruling that shields officers from false-arrest lawsuits.
13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
Bush Cronyism: Foxes Guarding the henhouse
Who's been indicted, named as a co-conspirator or convicted? The Grand Ole Docket tracks trial dates, court appearances and sentencing hearings for players in the current array of national political scandals.
Making Sense of the Abramoff Scandal
In preparation for upcoming Congressional hearings, Bush Administration firing federal attorneys and appointing ringers without Senate confirmation via the patriot act.
If Bush's pick is confirmed, that will mean the five top appointees at Justice have zero prosecutorial experience among them.
Iran-Contra Felons Get Good Jobs from Bush
Big Iraq Reconstruction Contracts Went To Big Donors
Bush Wars -- Crooks Get Contracts : The main companies that were awarded billions of dollars worth of contracts in Iraq have paid more than $300 million in fines since 2000, to resolve allegations of fraud, bid rigging, delivery of faulty military equipment, and environmental damage.
US Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) lost track of $9 billion
"Contracting in the aftermath of the hurricanes has been marked by waste, corruption and cronyism"
14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
A couple of election workers have been convicted of rigging a recount in Ohio following the 2004 election
Rolling Stone does some investigative and rather exhaustive digging into public documents and says we’re almost guaranteed the 2004 election results were massively rigged
Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings
Conyers hearing in which Clinton Curtis testifies that he was hired to create hackable voting machines (.wmv)
The Republican Party has quietly paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to provide private defense lawyers for a former Bush campaign official charged with conspiring to keep Democrats from voting in New Hampshire.
The Conyers Report (.pdf)
No explanation for the machines in Mahoning County that recorded Kerry votes for Bush, the improper purging in Cuyahoga County, the lock down in Warren County, the 99% voter turnout in Miami County, the machine tampering in Hocking County
Less access than Kazakhstan. Fewer fail-safes than Venezuela. Not as simple Republic of Georgia. The 2004 Elections according to international observers
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Hunter of skulls - " Wow. College police departments full of liberals. Not even sure how to address this, since it's so far outside reality it's not even funny."
This one really amused me. University police dept chiefs are almost always hardcore liberals handpicked by the liberal college administration. This is why university police are so overbalanced with gays and lesbians. They don't want real cops on campus.
As to the rest of you, I won't bother to point out the flaws in your half formed ideas. I wrote this for my own amusement. I know it is impossible to explain how the real world operates to kids. I hope you guys check back here in ten years of so after you are older and (hopefully) wiser. I hope you aren't too disillusioned when you discover that the idols your teachers pushed on you (Chomsky, Michael Moore, etc ) were not only wrong, but hypocrites that didn't practice what they preach.
My advice? Get a haircut, quit sponging off your parents, and start thinking for yourself for a change. A tour of duty in the Marine Corps or Army would be probably be the best first step. ( That and getting right with the Lord)
This one really amused me. University police dept chiefs are almost always hardcore liberals handpicked by the liberal college administration. This is why university police are so overbalanced with gays and lesbians. They don't want real cops on campus.
As to the rest of you, I won't bother to point out the flaws in your half formed ideas. I wrote this for my own amusement. I know it is impossible to explain how the real world operates to kids. I hope you guys check back here in ten years of so after you are older and (hopefully) wiser. I hope you aren't too disillusioned when you discover that the idols your teachers pushed on you (Chomsky, Michael Moore, etc ) were not only wrong, but hypocrites that didn't practice what they preach.
My advice? Get a haircut, quit sponging off your parents, and start thinking for yourself for a change. A tour of duty in the Marine Corps or Army would be probably be the best first step. ( That and getting right with the Lord)
Hell is just a wild guess like religion in general. If you feel the need to do so, then you can pray for this atheist as well.gun.KingRat wrote:
Turquoise - I would disagree that evangelical Christians are in the same boat as leftist socialists and muslims. Leftists will not stop till everyone accepts and lives by their definition of what is right. They are not content to be left alone to be homosexual, they will not stop till everyone is forced to accept that they are right. There is a big difference. Christians will not accept an immoral lifestyle, but attempt to change this by persuasion. Liberals try to change things by force ( i.e. activist judges, court system, or physical force if left unchecked in power - Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Cambodia, N. Korea etc.).
Religion aside though, coercion is not solely a left-wing thing. It's common among the right-wing too.
Oppressive leftist = Communist
Oppressive rightist = Fascist
Libertarianism is the only ideology completely free of oppression, but it has plenty of problems in its own right....
And of course you can back this up with some solid facts, and not some saliva-flecked rant from a personal opinion site that screams about the homosexual agenda and how tofu makes people contract teh gay.gun.KingRat wrote:
Hunter of skulls - " Wow. College police departments full of liberals. Not even sure how to address this, since it's so far outside reality it's not even funny."
This one really amused me. University police dept chiefs are almost always hardcore liberals handpicked by the liberal college administration. This is why university police are so overbalanced with gays and lesbians. They don't want real cops on campus.
Translation: I can't back up what I say with anything but my own biases and vague anecdotes, so I'll fall back on the "It's just entertainment" schtick.gun.KingRat wrote:
As to the rest of you, I won't bother to point out the flaws in your half formed ideas. I wrote this for my own amusement.
Lemme give you a little reality check, son. I'm 35 years old. I attended one year of college and then went directly into working for a living at 19 and I've been busting my ass at one job or another ever since. I didn't have time for anyone to push Chomsky or Moore on me and I'd much rather arrive at my own conclusions rather than having someone prepackage it for me anyway. So shove your arrogant assumption that you're talking to a buch of trustifarian college liberals here, k?gun.KingRat wrote:
I know it is impossible to explain how the real world operates to kids. I hope you guys check back here in ten years of so after you are older and (hopefully) wiser. I hope you aren't too disillusioned when you discover that the idols your teachers pushed on you (Chomsky, Michael Moore, etc ) were not only wrong, but hypocrites that didn't practice what they preach.
Not gonna happen. The chicks dig it the way it is.gun.KingRat wrote:
My advice? Get a haircut,
Been done with that for a long time.gun.KingRat wrote:
quit sponging off your parents,
Right, because the person to lecture me about original thought is someone who takes the elitist position that anyone who disagrees with them is younger and less wise, who brings up right-wing boogeymen like Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore because he assumes anyone who disagrees with him worships them and who generally utilizes nearly every cheap stereotype of liberals in the book. You forgot to add "stop smoking dope" or "stop collecting welfare" or "stop having teh gay secks" though, disappointing.gun.KingRat wrote:
and start thinking for yourself for a change.
ROFL, right, I forgot, we're all undisciplined hippies who need our asses kicked into line. Sorry, being a subservient tool for authority isn't on my list of things to do this lifetime. If our government actually respected soldiers instead of seeing them as machines made out of meat and only utilized them for defense instead of for furthering American government and corporate interests about without the slightest pangs of conscience about those who suffer for it, MAYBE I'd be interested in being a soldier.gun.KingRat wrote:
A tour of duty in the Marine Corps or Army would be probably be the best first step.
Or else God's gonna GET YA!gun.KingRat wrote:
( That and getting right with the Lord)
Sorry, it's my policy not to respond to the demands of terrorists. I'll stay a tree-hugging, dirt-worshipping longhaired heathen and you and your plague-bearing, first-born killing, son-sacrificing, strife-inspiring, jealous, hateful, murderous sky-god can deal with it.
I'm 35 as well. You are a perfect example of why I said that people would "hopefully" be wiser with age. Guess it didn't work out so well for you. At least if you were 18 you would have an excuse.
As far as college police depts being notoriously liberal, this is so commonly known that I laughed out loud that you questioned it. ( although most of your beliefs are laughably out of touch with reality, so why should this be different?). Being a self proclaimed " tree-hugging, dirt-worshipping longhaired heathen" I'm guessing you haven't had any contact with the police other than getting your ass kicked ( or mumbling under your breath about what you would have done after the police officer walked away) so it is doubtful that you would have any cop friends to clue you in about this.
Roma locuta est,
causa finita est
As far as college police depts being notoriously liberal, this is so commonly known that I laughed out loud that you questioned it. ( although most of your beliefs are laughably out of touch with reality, so why should this be different?). Being a self proclaimed " tree-hugging, dirt-worshipping longhaired heathen" I'm guessing you haven't had any contact with the police other than getting your ass kicked ( or mumbling under your breath about what you would have done after the police officer walked away) so it is doubtful that you would have any cop friends to clue you in about this.
Roma locuta est,
causa finita est
He's a far better writer than you, and a much better debater as well, so get off the condescension kick.gun.KingRat wrote:
I'm 35 as well. You are a perfect example of why I said that people would "hopefully" be wiser with age. Guess it didn't work out so well for you. At least if you were 18 you would have an excuse.
But he is so enjoying himself.
BTW, how's the e-penis doing KingRat?
BTW, how's the e-penis doing KingRat?
Workin' just fine for me actually, thanks.gun.KingRat wrote:
I'm 35 as well. You are a perfect example of why I said that people would "hopefully" be wiser with age. Guess it didn't work out so well for you. At least if you were 18 you would have an excuse.
If it's so commonly known, then it really shouldn't be too tough for you to prove it without resorting to just more opinion and anecdote. And you are laughably out of touch with knowing what my beliefs are.gun.KingRat wrote:
As far as college police depts being notoriously liberal, this is so commonly known that I laughed out loud that you questioned it. ( although most of your beliefs are laughably out of touch with reality, so why should this be different?).
I've never give cops reason to kick my ass, but they have had reason to mumble under their breaths in frustration when I get stopped and I gladly cooperate with a search just to show them I've got nothing they can bag me for. I have a family which I am too responsible for to be getting myself tossed in jail every few months for mixing it up with the cops at protests. Plus if I had felony convictions, I couldn't own guns. My only confrontation of any significance with the police was the night that one officer, obviously intoxicated with his own authority, stopped myself and a friend on the way home for the store and proceeded to interrogate me for half an hour about my political leanings, religious beliefs and style of dress. No arrest, no "ass kicked", just some State-empowered bully flexing his muscle so he could feel like a big man. I guess you probably figure I had it coming for engaging in the wanton and flagrant act of being myself. And again I see this veiled desire to see people whose thought patterns you don't like be brutalized into shape by authority, how very Stalinist of you comrade.gun.KingRat wrote:
Being a self proclaimed " tree-hugging, dirt-worshipping longhaired heathen" I'm guessing you haven't had any contact with the police other than getting your ass kicked ( or mumbling under your breath about what you would have done after the police officer walked away) so it is doubtful that you would have any cop friends to clue you in about this.
You are so hysterically over-the-top it's adorable. I'm going to hope that you're not comparing yourself to the leaders of the Catholic Church at the time those words were spoken, as your claim that this issue is settled, that would just be too ludicrously egotistic. But interesting you should choose those words, words that were invoked then to close the book on "heretics" of the Church who chose to question the idea that people were "born sinful" and therefore condemned to damnation from the moment they first drew breath and the idea that humanity needed God to achieve a life of good works and without sin. Just six words, but they speak volumes about you.gun.KingRat wrote:
Roma locuta est,
causa finita est
I cannot believe what I am reading here.
I especially love the part where he bags us out for not "thinking for ourselves" then proceeds to spurt right wing patriotic rhetoric coupled with some lines from the Bible and some annoying Latin.
I especially love the part where he bags us out for not "thinking for ourselves" then proceeds to spurt right wing patriotic rhetoric coupled with some lines from the Bible and some annoying Latin.
Ok this gun.KingRat is not a real person. I refuse to believe anyone can be so ignorant. Surely there is a prankster behind all this. You can come out now, we figured you out. Ha ha ha. Very funny. You got everyone worked up.
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Is this shit still opened?
It would appear so, Brigadier General Sergeriver.
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